Horrible Alleged PSU Scandal

[woolybug25]

Could care less what Mods think. I used the term homo simply as a abbreviation for homsexual and not as a perjorative. As far as homosexuals agree not all prey on boys but some do. Nor do all pedophiles engage older men but some do. Keep in mind the academic social scientests are about ten years behind what the average cop observes out in the streets. And often with their preconcieved beliefs never catchup.

You are moronic beyond comprehension.

 

[Kak7304]

Could care less what Mods think. I used the term homo simply as a abbreviation for homsexual and not as a perjorative. As far as homosexuals agree not all prey on boys but some do. Nor do all pedophiles engage older men but some do. Keep in mind the academic social scientests are about ten years behind what the average cop observes out in the streets. And often with their preconcieved beliefs never catchup.

Also, plenty of straight men engage underage women. There's no need to reinforce the incorrect stereotype that gay men are sexual predators.

 

[johnnyoooo]

Gays

Gays

Of course most gays are not child predators and certainly most are not criminals either. My blogs are not intended as a attack on gays but rather to discuss Sandusky's behavior and possible variables. So when I describe behavior of some gays. pedophiles and transvestites it is within the context of their criminal behavior I know full well about. If you doubt my insights grab a detective you know and ask him if my insights are a possibility in the case of Sandusky. But must remind you there is a organization out there think NAMBLA which wants to legalize sex with minors. But suspect most gays do not support them . So get it straight I am not attacking gays but individuals who engage in criminal behavior and Sandusky happens apparently to be one of them.

 

[MacIrish75]

This dude is messed up. Admits to "touching" and "horsing around." And being "attracted to young people/boys."

I can't watch anymore of this interview.

 

[Rhode Irish]

This is the worst train wreck of an interview ever. What the hell is his attorney thinking?

 

[Rudy89]

Im not a father but I know a lot of fathers post here I cant imagine how you guys must feel with him saying this kind of stuff. What a miserable life form.

 

[MacIrish75]

"In retrospect, I shouldn't have showered with those kids."

- Jerry Sandusky.

If I donated money to help this dude with his lawyer fees, I'd ask for it back immediately.

 

[NDinL.A.]

Could care less what Mods think. I used the term homo simply as a abbreviation for homsexual and not as a perjorative. As far as homosexuals agree not all prey on boys but some do. Nor do all pedophiles engage older men but some do. Keep in mind the academic social scientests are about ten years behind what the average cop observes out in the streets. And often with their preconcieved beliefs never catchup.

Well, you have consistently ignored my warnings to you about how to post (this guy literally will post 7 posts in a row instead of putting all his thoughts in one post) to the point I just delete all your posts, but you still don't get it. So now, enjoy your vacation, and do better when you get back..

 

[BobD]

It's not on TV here yet and I'm glad, it sounds disgusting. I don't think I'll watch it.

 

[Rhode Irish]

"In retrospect, I shouldn't have showered with those kids."

- Jerry Sandusky.

If I donated money to help this dude with his lawyer fees, I'd ask for it back immediately.

Who possibly would have donated money for this guy's defense? I'm pretty sure NOBODY is on this guy's side.

That little bastard Costas says that Penn State tried to have high academic standards and a big-time football program, "like the Stanfords and the Vanderbilts." Um....

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

Well, you have consistently ignored my warnings to you about how to post (this guy literally will post 7 posts in a row instead of putting all his thoughts in one post) to the point I just delete all your posts, but you still don't get it. So now, enjoy your vacation, and do better when you get back..

 

[MacIrish75]

Who possibly would have donated money for this guy's defense? I'm pretty sure NOBODY is on this guy's side.

That little bastard Costas says that Penn State tried to have high academic standards and a big-time football program, "like the Stanfords and the Vanderbilts." Um....

Some former Penn State players donate money for Jerry Sandusky's defense | lehighvalleylive.com

According to this article...at least one and maybe a few more actually did donate some $$ to Jerry.

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

It's not on TV here yet and I'm glad, it sounds disgusting. I don't think I'll watch it.

As a father, it's pretty unnerving.

Dads, moms.....kiss your kids tonight. Protect them. I'm on the verge of tears after hearing that animal. My son came to me to say goodnight and I couldn't let go.

I'm at a loss....

 

[Rhode Irish]

Some former Penn State players donate money for Jerry Sandusky's defense | lehighvalleylive.com

According to this article...at least one and maybe a few more actually did donate some $$ to Jerry.

Very hard to believe. What a bunch of scumbags.

 

[North Buffalo Irish]

The most shocking, disturbing, disgusting part was when Costas asked Sundusky if he's sexually attracted to young boys. Sandusky goes on some strange 20-second spiel about how much he loves kids and loves being around them, before half-heartedly saying, "No...."

If someone asked me on national television if I were sexually attracted to young boys, I'd be climbing through the telephone wires to knock them out. Very disturbing.

 

[woolybug25]

Well, you have consistently ignored my warnings to you about how to post (this guy literally will post 7 posts in a row instead of putting all his thoughts in one post) to the point I just delete all your posts, but you still don't get it. So now, enjoy your vacation, and do better when you get back..

 

[BGIF]

Another day another wonderment

Another day another wonderment

McQueary Penn State scandal: Mike McQueary says he did go to police - mcall.com

McQueary: 'I did stop it'
Penn State assistant football coach also says in email that he did discuss the shower incident with police.

By Mark Wogenrich and Andrew McGill, Of The Morning Call
11:28 p.m. EST, November 15, 2011

Mike McQueary, the Penn State assistant football coach under fire for his reported lack of action in an alleged 2002 rape of a boy by Jerry Sandusky, said in an email to a former classmate that he stopped the assault in an athletic facility shower and discussed it with police.

In the email obtained by The Morning Call, McQueary wrote that he "did have discussions with police and with the official at the university in charge of police" following the alleged incident involving Sandusky, a former Penn State assistant coach, and a boy. McQueary also wrote that he "is getting hammered for handling this the right way or what I thought at the time was right."

"I had to make tough impacting quick decisions," McQueary wrote.

In a brief interview with CBS News on Tuesday, McQueary said he could not discuss specifics but described his emotions as "all over the place."

"Just kind of shaken. Crazy," McQueary said. "Like a snow globe."

McQueary has been criticized widely for not going directly to police to report the alleged abuse. In an appearance Sunday on NBC's "Meet The Press," Gov. Tom Corbett said McQueary met "the minimum obligation" in reporting the incident to his superiors, including former head coach Joe Paterno, but did not "meet a moral obligation that all of us would have."


According to the grand jury report, a graduate assistant later identified as McQueary said he saw a boy, whose age he estimated at 10 years old, "being subjected to anal intercourse" by a naked Sandusky in a shower at the Penn State football building in March 2002. The graduate assistant left "immediately," was "distraught" and called his father, according to the presentment. His father told him to leave the building and come to his home, the presentment says.

In the email obtained by The Morning Call, dated Nov. 8, McQueary said, "I did stop it, not physically, but made sure it was stopped when I left that locker room."

"No one can imagine my thoughts or wants to be in my shoes for those 30-45 seconds," McQueary wrote. "Trust me."

Asked about McQueary's statement in the email that he had discussions with police, Penn State police told The Morning Call they were deferring to the university public relations office, which did not return a call Tuesday afternoon. Pennsylvania State Police in Harrisburg, who are heading the investigation, did not return a call.

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More at the Link

On Sunday, I heard Gov. Corbett chide McQueary (as have I) for not intervening and for only taking the incident to his superior, Paterno. Corbett is considerably closer to the situation in addition to being on the Board of PSU (as Gov.) as he was the Attorney General before becoming Gov. and handled THIS investigation yet he was unaware of McQueary's now claimed intervention AND notification to police.

This email seems (at least to me) to expand upon McQueary's testimony to the Grand Jury. Glad to hear he intervened. But there is no time line as to when he notified the police.

The email also leaves me thinking after he intervened he left the kid with Sandusky. If you saw a child, male or female, being raped do you leave the victim with the rapist after you interrupted him?

The email strikes me as contrived to offset the bad press. Supposedly McQueary has hired a law firm. Is this, their advice to better his image?

This seems to be version III of the events, 1. Paterno meeting, 2. Grand Jury, 3. email.

 

[BGIF]

More twists and turns

More twists and turns

Penn State Nittany Lions scandal -- Mike McQueary stopped alleged assault, source says - ESPN

November 15, 2011, 7:23 PM ET


Somewhat similar piece to the previous post but this one notes a second email:

In another email reported by NBC News on Monday night, McQueary told friends that he did the right thing.

"I didn't just turn and run ... I made sure it stopped ... I had to make quick tough decisions," he said in the email, according to the report

Also the state prosecuters in the Curley/Schultz hearings asked for a delay.


Also Gov. Corbett who has been spreading around the moral blame for people not doing enough, "bristled Tuesday when asked whether it was fair for people to criticize the pace of the probe". A probe he head up as then Attorney General.

Seems there was only one trooper assigned to the case when he was in charge. Under his replacement, manpower was increased.

 

[Kak7304]

McQueary Penn State scandal: Mike McQueary says he did go to police - mcall.com

McQueary: 'I did stop it'
Penn State assistant football coach also says in email that he did discuss the shower incident with police.

By Mark Wogenrich and Andrew McGill, Of The Morning Call
11:28 p.m. EST, November 15, 2011

More at the Link

On Sunday, I heard Gov. Corbett chide McQueary (as have I) for not intervening and for only taking the incident to his superior, Paterno. Corbett is considerably closer to the situation in addition to being on the Board of PSU (as Gov.) as he was the Attorney General before becoming Gov. and handled THIS investigation yet he was unaware of McQueary's now claimed intervention AND notification to police.

This email seems (at least to me) to expand upon McQueary's testimony to the Grand Jury. Glad to hear he intervened. But there is no time line as to when he notified the police.

The email also leaves me thinking after he intervened he left the kid with Sandusky. If you saw a child, male or female, being raped do you leave the victim with the rapist after you interrupted him?

The email strikes me as contrived to offset the bad press. Supposedly McQueary has hired a law firm. Is this, their advice to better his image?

This seems to be version III of the events, 1. Paterno meeting, 2. Grand Jury, 3. email.

This was my initial reaction to this new information. This whole situation just doesn't seem to add up.

 

[IrishLax]

A Comprehensive Timeline Of The Penn State Child Sex Abuse Scandal

When you look at it this way, it's clear this wasn't a JoePa or McQueary problem... it was a Penn State and Pennsylvania problem. There are so many levels of people that did absolutely nothing and/or attempted to cover it up. Burn it to the ground.

 

[NDFan4Life]

I think McQueary's in CYA mode now. It wasn't until his actions (or lack thereof), came into question that he brings up the email.

Sounds like a bunch of crap to me.

 

[irishff1014]

After the May 1998 paragraph th should be no more time line it should have been stopped then and there. SMH

 

[palinurus]

Agreeing here with the series of posts immediately above...

One other note -- the indictment itself says McQueary saw Sandusky and boy, they saw him, and that McQueary "left immediately, distraught." My point is that it seems odd that the indictment, in detailing the "storyline," would have left out something that is a logical part of the event (it's something everyone asks (and asks about himself, ie, what would I have done?)). It seems unlikely the DA would have left it out of the grand jury papers, if McQueary had told them that he stopped it. I also note that McQueary's email admits that he didn't stop it "physcially." He might mean Sandusky stopped when he saw him, but that's different than McQueary actively stopping the rape as it seems he's trying to now indicate.

So it's either a) McQueary left out of his grand jury testimony a fact that makes him look like a hero; b) the DA left something out of the indictment that is possibly relevant to the case; or c) McQuery didn't tell the grand jury he intervened because he didn't.

c) seems most likely to me; but we shall see.

 

[irish1958]

The grand jury does not present the prosecution's entire case; the true bill merely lists enough information to obtain the indictment.
I thought that the Costa interview was incomplete; he should have asked if Sandusky ever had an erection during one of his episodes of showering with the young boys (read the grand jury report for the significance of the question).

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

If he did in fact "break it up" and "go to the police" it still doesn't make it right because he did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to prevent future occurances. He still continued to see Sandusky around campus and watched as he continued to be involved with the Second Mile. How can you live with that on your conscious? He should have done everything in his power to make sure that pedopohile was locked up behind bars but I guess he felt like it wasn't his problem to deal with. He stopped what he saw so that was good enough for him.


Sorry Mike, still not buying it.

 

[palinurus]

The grand jury does not present the prosecution's entire case; the true bill merely lists enough information to obtain the indictment.
I thought that the Costa interview was incomplete; he should have asked if Sandusky ever had an erection during one of his episodes of showering with the young boys (read the grand jury report for the significance of the question).

True re the true bill, but the true bill as written does include McQueary's reaction to what he witnessed. Odd to me that it would say he "left immediately, distraught," but not include that he affirmatively stopped the rape, if he had testified as such. But it's true: the document does include all the DA has.

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

If he did in fact "break it up" and "go to the police" it still doesn't make it right because he did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to prevent future occurances. He still continued to see Sandusky around campus and watched as he continued to be involved with the Second Mile. How can you live with that on your conscious? He should have done everything in his power to make sure that pedopohile was locked up behind bars but I guess he felt like it wasn't his problem to deal with. He stopped what he saw so that was good enough for him.


Sorry Mike, still not buying it.

My question for McQueary is, Who took the boy home? If he stopped the boy from being raped, did he take the boy home or did Sandusky take the boy home?

 

[Rhode Irish]

My question for McQueary is, Who took the boy home? If he stopped the boy from being raped, did he take the boy home or did Sandusky take the boy home?

I think I can guess who took the boy home. If McQueary had taken him home they would know the identity of the boy.

 

[WaveDomer]

The grand jury does not present the prosecution's entire case; the true bill merely lists enough information to obtain the indictment.
I thought that the Costa interview was incomplete; he should have asked if Sandusky ever had an erection during one of his episodes of showering with the young boys (read the grand jury report for the significance of the question).

I thought the interview was good, especially for one that was basically unplanned. I heard Scott Van Pelt read an email from a police officer who said basically, "When asked if he was a pedophile, he says 'no' right away because he knows that's wrong, but when asked if he's attracted to young boys he hesitates, because in his view there is nothing wrong with that." That interview should just add nails to the coffin for this criminal.

 

[IrishLax]

A Former Penn State Assistant And Survivor Of Childhood Sexual Abuse Blasts Joe Paterno: "Joe Knows Everything That Goes On In That Program"

Everyone should read this. In fact, everyone should just read Deadspin in general. The more and more that comes out... just wow. Penn State was is an utter fraud... and more than that, that whole tow or state or whatever is just one corrupt mess. Reminds me of the movie American Gangster when EVERYONE is on the take.