Horrible Alleged PSU Scandal

[Ben E.]

Not sure if this was posted in this thread, but the DA at the time of the McQueary shower surprise ended up going missing and is assumed dead. His car was found abandoned and his laptop in the river without hard drive.

crazy sh!t...

 

[NDFANnSouthWest]

More and more that is reported...the more stench...they is something big behind this cover-up.

 

[johnnyoooo]

NBC Sports

NBC Sports

See nbcsports.com there is a story where a former Penn State Football Team graduate assistant Matt Paknis hints at strange behaviors not only by Sandusky but the whole coaching staff. His inference as I read it points to homosexual activity among the whole staff.

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

See nbcsports.com there is a story where a former Penn State Football Team graduate assistant Matt Paknis hints at strange behaviors not only by Sandusky but the whole coaching staff. His inference as I read it points to homosexual activity among the whole staff.

That's a bit much, no? The "Entire Staff"????????????? I'd tread lightly, Sir. That's the kind of nonsense that'll get you into trouble.

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

The only thing that was said is that they all showered in a plexiglass area. What does that have to do with the entire coaching staff engaging in homosexual activity?

 

[NDFan4Life]

This is the link to the story mentioned in the post above:

Former Penn St. coach: Sandusky scandal 'made some sense to me' - College football- NBC Sports

For some reason, people like to insert their own opinions and regard it as a fact.

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

This is the link to the story mentioned in the post above:

Former Penn St. coach: Sandusky scandal 'made some sense to me' - College football- NBC Sports

For some reason, people like to insert their own opinions and regard it as a fact.

Yup...

 

[Rhode Irish]

Not sure if this was posted in this thread, but the DA at the time of the McQueary shower surprise ended up going missing and is assumed dead. His car was found abandoned and his laptop in the river without hard drive.

Just to clarify, the DA went missing in 2005. He was in charge of investigating an incident that was reported in 1998, about which charges were never brought. The 2002 incident (the one that McQueary witnessed) never made it that far. Certainly a strange set of circumstances surrounded the DA's 2005 disappearance, but it seems likely that he did himself in because of tremendous guilt.

 

[WaveDomer]

The only thing that was said is that they all showered in a plexiglass area. What does that have to do with the entire coaching staff engaging in homosexual activity?

Also remember that Joe Paterno is pretty old and I think back in the '50's and around that time it wasn't uncommon for a common shower area or even people swimming nude in the pool. I was born in '74, so I don't have first hand, but I think this is true. I wouldn't read too much into the shower thing. I could also care less if they were all homosexual. I care if they are criminal.

The problem at Penn State is going to come down to being priorities being out of whack and that causing some bad/criminal decisions. The bad news, priorities are out of whack all over the place, but hopefully they don't result in something so criminal. Penn State's football program and coach became larger than anything else at that school, in my opinion. That's why they made the inexcusable decisions they made when they discovered Sandusky. There is almost no way it's some kind of pedophile ring. I don't care how you slice it, you can't keep a lid on that while running a top tier program. But you can keep a lid on one scumbag who is a coaching legend and not wanting his behavior to affect the program. Where I grew up there was kind of a similar story, but it involved kids who were on a sports team and a lot of adults covering them. But it comes down to the same deal of wanting to protect something because your priorities are f-ed.

But this is also why I'm in favor of just shutting down that program for the time being. The onion here is huge and we don't know what is under there yet. So why even mess around with it?

 

[johnnyoooo]

Matt Paknis stated Sandusky had a habit of making body contact or coming close to players and staff. He thought the only body contact proper was instructing players on how to block. Why do you think Paknis mentioned he thought it strange for all the coaches showering together. It is Paknis who thought that strange not me. Please not hard to see his inference is there was strange behaviors going on. Therefore not difficult to see what his final inference is.

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

Matt Paknis stated Sandusky had a habit of making body contact or coming close to players and staff. He thought the only body contact proper was instructing players on how to block. Why do you think Paknis mentioned he thought it strange for all the coaches showering together. It is Paknis who thought that strange not me. Please not hard to see his inference is there was strange behaviors going on. Therefore not difficult to see what his final inference is.

I get the Sandusky thing. That's well established. Now, back to my problem with your "inference".

Again... He said it was strange because it was a plexiglassed common shower area. I'm sure it's not the only one going out there. Would you go on to inference that any coaching staff that has a plexiglass shower area is automatically homosexual??? Seriously

 

[NDFan4Life]

Matt Paknis stated Sandusky had a habit of making body contact or coming close to players and staff. He thought the only body contact proper was instructing players on how to block. Why do you think Paknis mentioned he thought it strange for all the coaches showering together. It is Paknis who thought that strange not me. Please not hard to see his inference is there was strange behaviors going on. Therefore not difficult to see what his final inference is.

When I was in boot camp, we had a common shower area. What do you infer from that?

 

[WaveDomer]

I think something to keep in mind now is that we are in the phase of this story where the media is going to sensationalize everything. Any time Sandusky looked at a kid, or put his hand on someone, or talked about how he liked working with kids at his charity, and now how the program did anything that could be construed as strange sexually. The media wants to sell, sell, sell now, so that's what they are going to be doing. That's not to say there aren't things that should be looked at, it's just to say that not everything means anything.

 

[johnnyoooo]

Matt Paknis

Matt Paknis

It is former graduate assistant Matt Paknis making inferences about Sandusky and coaches acting strange not me. I suspect his ultimate inference was that homosexual behavior was going on but all he can allude too what was he thought was strange behaviors. Keep in mind he also mentions he was a victim of child molestation himself but from a different predator. So I assume he would be more aware now of strange behaviors. But like others here I cannot verify his veracity as to his observations. I do believe as days go by more dirt will come out. I cannot state Sandusky or all the other coaches were engaged in homosexual activities. Rather I suspect that was the ultimate inference of Matt Paknis.

 

[Rhode Irish]

Also remember that Joe Paterno is pretty old and I think back in the '50's and around that time it wasn't uncommon for a common shower area or even people swimming nude in the pool. I was born in '74, so I don't have first hand, but I think this is true. I wouldn't read too much into the shower thing. I could also care less if they were all homosexual. I care if they are criminal.

The problem at Penn State is going to come down to being priorities being out of whack and that causing some bad/criminal decisions. The bad news, priorities are out of whack all over the place, but hopefully they don't result in something so criminal. Penn State's football program and coach became larger than anything else at that school, in my opinion. That's why they made the inexcusable decisions they made when they discovered Sandusky. There is almost no way it's some kind of pedophile ring. I don't care how you slice it, you can't keep a lid on that while running a top tier program. But you can keep a lid on one scumbag who is a coaching legend and not wanting his behavior to affect the program. Where I grew up there was kind of a similar story, but it involved kids who were on a sports team and a lot of adults covering them. But it comes down to the same deal of wanting to protect something because your priorities are f-ed.

But this is also why I'm in favor of just shutting down that program for the time being. The onion here is huge and we don't know what is under there yet. So why even mess around with it?

I was all set to rep this post until I got to the last paragraph. Your take in the first two paragraphs is excellent and totally on point. I just disagree with anyone that says the program should be shut down. They should clean house from top to bottom, but killing the program hurts too many people who haven't done anything wrong here. It would be strictly symbolic, and I don't think you hand to out real punishment to innocent people just to make a symbolic point.

 

[woolybug25]

Matt Paknis stated Sandusky had a habit of making body contact or coming close to players and staff. He thought the only body contact proper was instructing players on how to block. Why do you think Paknis mentioned he thought it strange for all the coaches showering together. It is Paknis who thought that strange not me. Please not hard to see his inference is there was strange behaviors going on. Therefore not difficult to see what his final inference is.

I would start treading a lil bit more lightly, dude.

You have to be about an ant's weiner away from being banned.

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

It is former graduate assistant Matt Paknis making inferences about Sandusky and coaches acting strange not me. I suspect his ultimate inference was that homosexual behavior was going on but all he can allude too what was he thought was strange behaviors. Keep in mind he also mentions he was a victim of child molestation himself but from a different predator. So I assume he would be more aware now of strange behaviors. But like others here I cannot verify his veracity as to his observations. I do believe as days go by more dirt will come out. I cannot state Sandusky or all the other coaches were engaged in homosexual activities. Rather I suspect that was the ultimate inference of Matt Paknis.

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[WaveDomer]

I was all set to rep this post until I got to the last paragraph. Your take in the first two paragraphs is excellent and totally on point. I just disagree with anyone that says the program should be shut down. They should clean house from top to bottom, but killing the program hurts too many people who haven't done anything wrong here. It would be strictly symbolic, and I don't think you hand to out real punishment to innocent people just to make a symbolic point.

Trust me, I get that point of view too. I do. But I don't think shutting it down is totally symbolic either. I think it would allow everything to flush it's way out without the football circus. It's certainly just an opinion and one that can be argued against and you don't need to agree with it in order to agree with my points above it.

 

[BobD]

I was all set to rep this post until I got to the last paragraph. Your take in the first two paragraphs is excellent and totally on point. I just disagree with anyone that says the program should be shut down. They should clean house from top to bottom, but killing the program hurts too many people who haven't done anything wrong here. It would be strictly symbolic, and I don't think you hand to out real punishment to innocent people just to make a symbolic point.

I agree, I think the entire program will eventually be flushed of all the "old timers", but not shut down.

 

[Rhode Irish]

Trust me, I get that point of view too. I do. But I don't think shutting it down is totally symbolic either. I think it would allow everything to flush it's way out without the football circus. It's certainly just an opinion and one that can be argued against and you don't need to agree with it in order to agree with my points above it.

True. We can agree to disagree on your final point. Certainly, it did not prevent me from agreeing with the rest of your post.

 

[BGIF]

I was all set to rep this post until I got to the last paragraph. Your take in the first two paragraphs is excellent and totally on point. I just disagree with anyone that says the program should be shut down. They should clean house from top to bottom, but killing the program hurts too many people who haven't done anything wrong here. It would be strictly symbolic, and I don't think you hand to out real punishment to innocent people just to make a symbolic point.

^

I read an article that the AD and VP could lose their pensions because of the perjury/obstruction charges. IF true that would send a real message to those considering a future coverup. The VP's pension is something like $22,000 per month.

On the other hand as long as he doesn't lie under oath Sandusky would get his pension as child abuse is named as one of the offenses that could cause termination of the pension.

 

[yankeehater]

Penn State Scandal: Why Jerry Sandusky's Pension Is Another Black Mark | Bleacher Report

 

[BobD]

Have you heard the sick sh!t Sanduskys lawyer just admitted to on CNN tonight? Its on right now.

 

[woolybug25]

Dude, quit posting. I doubt the mods are cool with you using the term, "homo", nor trying to make some broad generalization that homosexuals are pedophiles. You are an ignorant bigot.

I am firmly in the "ban your @ss" bus.

 

[woolybug25]

Dudes, I accidently repped johnnyooo instead of neg repping him for his idiotic comments. It wont let me change it and it turned him green. Can one of you dudes that agree with me that he is an ahole please neg rep him?

thanks

 

[BobD]

Dudes, I accidently repped johnnyooo instead of neg repping him for his idiotic comments. It wont let me change it and it turned him green. Can one of you dudes that agree with me that he is an ahole please neg rep him?

thanks

Done dude.

 

[woolybug25]

Done dude.

You da man.

 

[Pa Golden Tate Fan]

Sandusky will have an interview with NBC tonight at 10 eastern.

 

[Kak7304]

I did twenty in the NYPD retired detective now. I locked up many types of perverts from pedophiles, mugger transvestites. male hookers and homos and lesbians assaulting each other. Do not think for a second a pedophile. male hooker or tranvestite hooker just stay within their known behavior. Not so. A practicing homo cherishes young boys and a pedophile often engages with older guys above the teen age. The transvestite is quite flexible and will do anything with any age group and often is a mugger to boot So it is not far fetched to speculate if Sandusky engaged older guys too. I am not stating here he did but Matt Paknis comments about his strange behaviors. Will tell you based on my former detective experience investigators will be looking for a homosexual connection in this case among other issues to pursue But hey at this point I have no idea about the coaching staff except Paknis thought their behavior strange and he claims he had his impressions confirmed by other coaches at other colleges.

It's very offensive for you to group normal gay men and women in with pedophiles. I have several friends who are homosexual, and I can guarantee you they are good men and definitely not pedophiles.

 

[johnnyoooo]

Care Less About Mods

Care Less About Mods

Could care less what Mods think. I used the term homo simply as a abbreviation for homsexual and not as a perjorative. As far as homosexuals agree not all prey on boys but some do. Nor do all pedophiles engage older men but some do. Keep in mind the academic social scientests are about ten years behind what the average cop observes out in the streets. And often with their preconcieved beliefs never catchup.