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[Domina Nostra]

Interesting read. A few highlights:

This is a fundamental tension in this season, IMO:

We want to hurry it up on offense, to maximize our offensive efficiency...
BUT
We want to keep our defense off-the field, because the depth at DT is not good.

The best solution is to have long, sustained "hurry-up" drives that end in TDs. But that is always easier said than done.

Thoughts?

 

[greyhammer90]

This is a fundamental tension in this season, IMO:

We want to hurry it up on offense, to maximize our offensive efficiency...
BUT
We want to keep our defense off-the field, because the depth at DT is not good.

The best solution is to have long, sustained "hurry-up" drives that end in TDs. But that is always easier said than done.

Thoughts?

I don't think hurry up is even necessary. What is crucial is not snapping the ball at the last second every play as has been the style under Kelly.

If you're a rush DE, and know over the course of the game that the QB has no time to do a hard count and that the ball is going to be snapped on zero 3/4ths of the time, it makes timing the snap much easier and makes the job for the OL much harder.

 

[Luckylucci]

Here's a good read

A day in the life of Brian Kelly and his attempted Notre Dame football resurrection | Notre Dame Insider Football | ndinsider.com

 

[BGIF]

I found IE because one of the other ND fans let me know he was leaving to come here because he was fed up with the constant bullshit from other bases... forget with user that was tho.

You forget me?

 

[NDohio]

This is a fundamental tension in this season, IMO:

We want to hurry it up on offense, to maximize our offensive efficiency...
BUT
We want to keep our defense off-the field, because the depth at DT is not good.

The best solution is to have long, sustained "hurry-up" drives that end in TDs. But that is always easier said than done.

Thoughts?

I think the idea of going no huddle without personnel changes is the bigger key here. If the offense does develop the way many of us think it can, then the personnel grouping could stay the same for an entire drive. Being able to keep the defense from substituting is more important to me than the pace.

I do agree though, keeping the inexperienced ND defense off the field is really important. A no huddle offense, primarily run offense would be ideal.

 

[stlnd01]

I think the idea of going no huddle without personnel changes is the bigger key here. If the offense does develop the way many of us think it can, then the personnel grouping could stay the same for an entire drive. Being able to keep the defense from substituting is more important to me than the pace.

I do agree though, keeping the inexperienced ND defense off the field is really important. A no huddle offense, primarily run offense would be ideal.

The Tempo Power Spread!!!

Any concern running tempo/no-huddle/call-it-at-the-line with a newbie at QB? One could envision mistakes.

 

[Luckylucci]

Some pretty good stuff in that article I posted but hearing BK talk about Jay Hayes makes me think this might be a breakout year for him. And if that's the case, I think this DL is going to surprise some people.

 

[arrowryan]

Some pretty good stuff in that article I posted but hearing BK talk about Jay Hayes makes me think this might be a breakout year for him. And if that's the case, I think this DL is going to surprise some people.

The whole magazine that the BK article is in is great. Did you read the Wimbush article? That article got me believing that Wimbush can lead us to the playoffs and then start a multi milliin dollar business when her graduates.

 

[Luckylucci]

The whole magazine that the BK article is in is great. Did you read the Wimbush article? That article got me believing that Wimbush can lead us to the playoffs and then start a multi milliin dollar business when her graduates.

I have not, I'll have to try and find it.

However, I already thought this so I'm not sure it will change my thinking at all, lol.

 

[calvegas04]

The whole magazine that the BK article is in is great. Did you read the Wimbush article? That article got me believing that Wimbush can lead us to the playoffs and then start a multi milliin dollar business when her graduates.

I'm praying Wimbush is much better than what he showed us in the spring game

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

I'm praying Wimbush is much better than what he showed us in the spring game

Agreed. I'm hoping it was a byproduct of the coaching. They likely asked him to sit in the pocket and go through his progressions, which is certainly needed but it's a big ask for a new athletic QB to not take off running at the first sign of pressure.

But I do agree, there were some bad decisions that showed lack of vision.

 

[dwshade]

I'm praying Wimbush is much better than what he showed us in the spring game

Oh please. I take absolutely nothing from a spring scrimmage. I saw Eason in the Georgia spring game and he didn't look very good. Do I think that matters when we play them? Absolutely not. All that I know is the people who saw Wimbush throughout the spring came away impressed.

 

[greyhammer90]

Agreed. I'm hoping it was a byproduct of the coaching. They likely asked him to sit in the pocket and go through his progressions, which is certainly needed but it's a big ask for a new athletic QB to not take off running at the first sign of pressure.

But I do agree, there were some bad decisions that showed lack of vision.

It's also because he was down by touch. There were several times in that game that he was either going to score or run for thirty yards but got breathed on by a cornerback and was marked down. If he's able to run those I don't think college defenses will be able to stick with the WRs so much.

At the end of the day though, no one knows what he'll look like. Some players look great everywhere but gameday. Others turn it on when it matters most. Hopefully Wimbush is The QB That Was Promised.

 

[Irish#1]

This is a fundamental tension in this season, IMO:

We want to hurry it up on offense, to maximize our offensive efficiency...
BUT
We want to keep our defense off-the field, because the depth at DT is not good.

The best solution is to have long, sustained "hurry-up" drives that end in TDs. But that is always easier said than done.

Thoughts?

Think of the Colts with Manning. Manning brought everybody to the LOS and called his play from there. Depending on what the defense showed, Manning snapped quickly or went through his progressions to find the best mismatch.

 

[Irish#1]

Here's a good read

A day in the life of Brian Kelly and his attempted Notre Dame football resurrection | Notre Dame Insider Football | ndinsider.com

I think it's clear BK is letting his staff do what they were hired for. The message from Swarbrick came through loud and clear. I'm getting excited to see how this transforms on the field.

 

[arrowryan]

Coach Parseghian passed away this last night/early this morning. I know that he was recently in the hospital. RIP Coach. One of the Notre Dame greats.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Our entire program mourns the loss of one of the pillars of our University, Coach Ara Parseghian. <a href="https://t.co/nXS3xyei05">pic.twitter.com/nXS3xyei05</a></p>— Notre Dame Football (@NDFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball/status/892719248040218624">August 2, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Meatloaf]

https://athlonsports.com/college-football/coaches-talk-anonymously-about-notre-dame-2017

The comments from other coaches kind of touch on my biggest concern for this season; that the new hires won't be enough to save Kelly from himself.

 

[NDdomer2]

Some interesting comments in there

 

[Old Man Mike]

Almost everything in there rang true for me. Especially:
1). It's Kelly's offense. Fundamentally. I, however, believe that Coach will let Long run the two TEs sets a LOT, and more power near the goal line --- plus get the tempo up. So I don't believe the gratuitous thought that Kelly will change the whole thing suddenly out from under Long's feet.
2). BVGs defense was seen as a mess, and Elko's as a very large upgrade.
3). Sideline atmosphere comment not clear as to what that coach meant, but it sounded like he thought that there was too much "professional distance" between the staff and the players, and there needed to be more intensity in interaction. I could buy that.
4). recognition that Notre Dame is still loaded with talent.
5). recognition that asking a rookie QB to save the day is asking a lot.

Overall, as an optimist and a believer that Brian Kelly is a very perceptive coach and man, I come away from all these comments (other than the nervousness about Wimbush in his first year,) with the feeling that Coach will get these things right this year.

 

[Domina Nostra]

Overall, as an optimist and a believer that Brian Kelly is a very perceptive coach and man, I come away from all these comments (other than the nervousness about Wimbush in his first year,) with the feeling that Coach will get these things right this year.

I agree. Kelly has made some baffling decisions from time to time, but he has Tier 1 upside as a coach, when he's focused, getting good advice, and has material to work with.

 

[Dizzyphil]

Almost everything in there rang true for me. Especially:
1). It's Kelly's offense. Fundamentally. I, however, believe that Coach will let Long run the two TEs sets a LOT, and more power near the goal line --- plus get the tempo up. So I don't believe the gratuitous thought that Kelly will change the whole thing suddenly out from under Long's feet.
2). BVGs defense was seen as a mess, and Elko's as a very large upgrade.
3). Sideline atmosphere comment not clear as to what that coach meant, but it sounded like he thought that there was too much "professional distance" between the staff and the players, and there needed to be more intensity in interaction. I could buy that.
4). recognition that Notre Dame is still loaded with talent.
5). recognition that asking a rookie QB to save the day is asking a lot.

Overall, as an optimist and a believer that Brian Kelly is a very perceptive coach and man, I come away from all these comments (other than the nervousness about Wimbush in his first year,) with the feeling that Coach will get these things right this year.

With the talent (especially heavy on the left side) of the OL and a two TE set, Adams or whomever is in the backfield should be able to walk 3-4 yards at a time.

 

[Greenore]

Does anyone have any comments/observations/concerns with regard to the plethora of false starts we have had over the past few years and how that may weigh-in on an "up tempo" offensive scheme? Seems to me that it may actually reduce OL penalties.

 

[Old Man Mike]

I'm hoping that that was mostly on Kizer.

 

[dublinirish]

McGlinchey was as bad as anybody with the false starts

 

[Irish#1]

Does anyone have any comments/observations/concerns with regard to the plethora of false starts we have had over the past few years and how that may weigh-in on an "up tempo" offensive scheme? Seems to me that it may actually reduce OL penalties.

I'm hoping that that was mostly on Kizer.

McGlinchey was as bad as anybody with the false starts

While I don't have any statistics and am too lazy to dig that deep, I think a lot of the false starts were a result of getting the play in late. Clock is down and Kizer doesn't have enough time to get the line settled. McGlinchey sees the clock is almost expired and tries to anticipate Kizer's call because the clock is at 2 or 3 seconds.

 

[PANDFAN]

While I don't have any statistics and am too lazy to dig that deep, I think a lot of the false starts were a result of getting the play in late. Clock is down and Kizer doesn't have enough time to get the line settled. McGlinchey sees the clock is almost expired and tries to anticipate Kizer's call because the clock is at 2 or 3 seconds.

nine false starts, six in the final four games
“It was a combination of things,” Hiestand said. “It wasn’t as much the side flipping as playing around guys that hadn’t played a lot. Mike’s big thing is, he’s always trying to get everything to work and he kind of forgets about himself sometimes. He was just trying to do too much and make sure everybody else is squared away.

“And then boom, he pops early. He’s been much better with that this spring and that won’t be an issue down the road.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...lt-mike-mcglinchey-fixing-mistakes/100329614/

 

[Greenore]

nine false starts, six in the final four games
“It was a combination of things,” Hiestand said. “It wasn’t as much the side flipping as playing around guys that hadn’t played a lot. Mike’s big thing is, he’s always trying to get everything to work and he kind of forgets about himself sometimes. He was just trying to do too much and make sure everybody else is squared away.

“And then boom, he pops early. He’s been much better with that this spring and that won’t be an issue down the road.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...lt-mike-mcglinchey-fixing-mistakes/100329614/

Premature eblockulation?

My Lord, those penalties drove me crazy (albeit a short trip). Good comments, thanks lads. Cheers!

 

[PANDFAN]

new preseason poll out...we are receiving votes...georgia 15th, stanford 14th, miami 18th, usc 4th

 

[Greenore]

new preseason poll out...we are receiving votes...georgia 15th, stanford 14th, miami 18th, usc 4th

I'm getting old... likely 15 - 20 years older than the average poster on this board. Admittedly, I'm not a Googleologist... but they are telling me we didn't make the Top 25? Okay, I can see some of that (with all the coaching and player changes in the last 12 months) but objectively, I think we only got a lot better.

New QB will be a variable for sure, but our offense has held steady or gotten better and I am certain that our defense only had one way to go... and I will not believe that it hasn't improved.

All things considered, I cannot believe we didn't crack 20 - 25 in the rankings. Probably where we should be, but if this team can come together I hope we can crack Top 15 by the third week. Drinking the kool-aid and having fun. Cheers!

 

[Irish#1]

nine false starts, six in the final four games
“It was a combination of things,” Hiestand said. “It wasn’t as much the side flipping as playing around guys that hadn’t played a lot. Mike’s big thing is, he’s always trying to get everything to work and he kind of forgets about himself sometimes. He was just trying to do too much and make sure everybody else is squared away.

“And then boom, he pops early. He’s been much better with that this spring and that won’t be an issue down the road.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...lt-mike-mcglinchey-fixing-mistakes/100329614/

Thanks..........That's a start, but how many of those occurred where the play was called in late and where was the play clock was in relation to the false start?