Feminism

[ulukinatme]

I'm still in the, "I'm actually good on a 'pics of posters exes' thread" camp... for sure...

Yeah, I'm good too, I just used that as a comparison to show how tame it is over here The Shag can be pretty damn funny, but they can be deranged too.

 

[DomerInHappyValley]

If only we had a place like...oh...The Gentleman's Club where such pics could be tastefully displayed without public access. We never posted anything with wifes though, we had consenting models only!

Hell, on the Shag they have a private forum where people post R-Rated Plenty of Fish conquests, and an Ex-Wifes/GFs Nude Pics thread. It's like Kindergarten over here in comparison!

Enjoy the time that we had with The Gentlmens Club. Mourn its passing as we do all great things.

It's not like we could possibly create a new private club.

Though a proven not to be a snitch or easily offended private forum like the mods get is an idea.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Hell, on the Shag they have a private forum where people post R-Rated Plenty of Fish conquests, and an Ex-Wifes/GFs Nude Pics thread. It's like Kindergarten over here in comparison!

The opposite, actually.

 

[Irish YJ]

The opposite, actually.

The Trump thread is exactly like kindergarten sometimes lol.

 

[SonofOahu]

The Trump thread is exactly like kindergarten sometimes lol.

Kindergartners can actually learn to get along, though.

 

[Irish YJ]

Kindergartners can actually learn to get along, though.

Most of them. Not all.

That's why BB was held back a year BTW..

 

[gkIrish]

Did you guys see there is a new Oceans movie (Oceans 8) coming out? Every thief is a woman...

Did they not learn from the new Ghostbusters? Gimmick movies don't work and never will.

 

[ACamp1900]

Did you guys see there is a new Oceans movie (Oceans 8) coming out? Every thief is a woman...

Did they not learn from the new Ghostbusters? Gimmick movies don't work and never will.

Dude I heard they aren't stopping there... new Lord of the Flies, The Rocketeer, Superbad, Expendables, and a few others I can't remember right now.. all being remade with all female leads... because that will like, change the world, or something.

 

[gkIrish]

Dude I heard they aren't stopping there... new Lord of the Flies, The Rocketeer, Superbad, Expendables, and a few others I can't remember right now.. all being remade with all female leads... because that will like, change the world, or something.

Oh dear God

 

[Bishop2b5]

Did you guys see there is a new Oceans movie (Oceans 8) coming out? Every thief is a woman...

Did they not learn from the new Ghostbusters? Gimmick movies don't work and never will.

It doesn't have to be that way...

 

[ACamp1900]

Best part is "Screenplay by Howard Stern"

 

[Legacy]

The 2017 Pulitzer Price winner in Local Reporting

The 2017 Pulitzer Price winner in Local Reporting

to the Salt Lake Tribune Staff

For a string of vivid reports revealing the perverse, punitive and cruel treatment given to sexual assault victims at Brigham Young University, one of Utah’s most powerful institutions.

Articles

 

[IrishLax]

https://www.theatlantic.com/enterta...ation-of-aziz-ansari/550541/?utm_source=atltw

I thought it would take a little longer for the hit squad of privileged young white women to open fire on brown-skinned men. I had assumed that on the basis of intersectionality and all that, they’d stay laser focused on college-educated white men for another few months. But we’re at warp speed now, and the revolution—in many ways so good and so important—is starting to sweep up all sorts of people into its conflagration: the monstrous, the cruel, and the simply unlucky. Apparently there is a whole country full of young women who don’t know how to call a cab, and who have spent a lot of time picking out pretty outfits for dates they hoped would be nights to remember. They’re angry and temporarily powerful, and last night they destroyed a man who didn’t deserve it.

 

[IrishLion]

https://www.theatlantic.com/enterta...ation-of-aziz-ansari/550541/?utm_source=atltw

I tried to stay in the loop on this one, but it made me too mad.

This chick goes on a date with Aziz Ansari, goes back to his place, gets naked and starts participating in the all the fun stuff, but then decides she doesn't want to have sex.

She tells him that, so he suggests they hang out with their clothes on. THAT IS LITERALLY HOW YOU HANDLE THE SITUATION, ON BOTH SIDES. IT WAS A PICTURE-PERFECT EXAMPLE OF HOW TO LET SOMEONE KNOW WHEN YOU'RE UNCOMFORTABLE, AND HOW TO NOT BE A TOTAL PREDATOR.

And yet she felt betrayed and taken advantage of, even though he stopped when she made it clear she didn't want anything? WTF is the guy supposed to do? She was cool with going back to his place, and apparently cool with getting naked on the kitchen counter, but NOT cool with having sex. So they didn't have sex. But she goes back and tries to say ALL OF IT was non-consensual, even though it clearly was by her own account.

She felt retroactively upset at how the evening had progressed, and so now she tries to ruin the dude.

 

[IrishLax]

I tried to stay in the loop on this one, but it made me too mad.

This chick goes on a date with Aziz Ansari, goes back to his place, gets naked and starts participating in the all the fun stuff, but then decides she doesn't want to have sex.

She tells him that, so he suggests they hang out with their clothes on. THAT IS LITERALLY HOW YOU HANDLE THE SITUATION, ON BOTH SIDES. IT WAS A PICTURE-PERFECT EXAMPLE OF HOW TO LET SOMEONE KNOW WHEN YOU'RE UNCOMFORTABLE, AND HOW TO NOT BE A TOTAL PREDATOR.

And yet she felt betrayed and taken advantage of, even though he stopped when she made it clear she didn't want anything? WTF is the guy supposed to do? She was cool with going back to his place, and apparently cool with getting naked on the kitchen counter, but NOT cool with having sex. So they didn't have sex. But she goes back and tries to say ALL OF IT was non-consensual, even though it clearly was by her own account.

She felt retroactively upset at how the evening had progressed, and so now she tries to ruin the dude.

Yup. And it's absolutely shameful that Vox let that insane piece go to print with her being anonymous... it's this kind of shit that leads to the fake Rolling Stone UVA rape case, this article, etc. If you want to throw around something salacious in the press -- not a court of law -- then put your fucking name on it.

What I liked about #MeToo is that real people were doing real callouts of real predators... I loved watching Weinstein, Lauer, and everyone else get their just deserts. The Aziz thing is everything wrong with the "rape culture" activism mindset.

 

[Buster Bluth]

Yup. And it's absolutely shameful that Vox let that insane piece go to print with her being anonymous... it's this kind of shit that leads to the fake Rolling Stone UVA rape case, this article, etc. If you want to throw around something salacious in the press -- not a court of law -- then put your fucking name on it.

What I liked about #MeToo is that real people were doing real callouts of real predators... I loved watching Weinstein, Lauer, and everyone else get their just deserts. The Aziz thing is everything wrong with the "rape culture" activism mindset.

Loved the tweet about the sexual revolution reaching its "reign of terror" phase. The pendulum is quickly swinging to far with "every accuser deserves to be believed" mantra. Now if you're a person with wealth or fame every awkward moment with a woman who gets vindictive has the power to ruin your name and career. Shit is fucked up.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Loved the tweet about the sexual revolution reaching its "reign of terror" phase. The pendulum is quickly swinging to far with "every accuser deserves to be believed" mantra. Now if you're a person with wealth or fame every awkward moment with a woman who gets vindictive has the power to ruin your name and career. Shit is fucked up.

I don't often agree with you, but this is 100% spot on. Every accuser DOESN'T deserve to be believed. Every accuser deserves to be heard and then have the opportunity to either back their claims up and then be believed, or be denounced for crying wolf.

I'm all for eliminating sexual assault, abuse, powerful men taking advantage of women, etc., and we've seen some major abusers & creeps that needed to be exposed and called out taken down and get what they deserved, but this current reign of terror has way too much potential for destroying the lives & careers of people who've done nothing wrong.

 

[IrishLax]

By the way, here are some hot takes from the blgoger that published that post on Aziz:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Watching dubbed anime is racist</p>— Katie Way (@k80way) <a href="https://twitter.com/k80way/status/952274756778315777?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 13, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here's the full email the <a href="https://t.co/YZ14Jca6FS">https://t.co/YZ14Jca6FS</a> reporter who wrote the Aziz Ansari story sent when asked to go on HLN with <a href="https://twitter.com/TVAshleigh?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TVAshleigh</a>. It is really something.<a href="https://t.co/qTca5xA9m0">https://t.co/qTca5xA9m0</a> <a href="https://t.co/usZBm0KnIr">pic.twitter.com/usZBm0KnIr</a></p>— Max Tani (@maxwelltani) <a href="https://twitter.com/maxwelltani/status/953729116649517056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 17, 2018</a></blockquote>
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So she is exactly the kind of hair-triggered feminist/SJW that inspires eye rolls instead of thought and conversation.

 

[fightingirish26]

By the way, here are some hot takes from the blgoger that published that post on Aziz:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Watching dubbed anime is racist</p>— Katie Way (@k80way) <a href="https://twitter.com/k80way/status/952274756778315777?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 13, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here's the full email the <a href="https://t.co/YZ14Jca6FS">https://t.co/YZ14Jca6FS</a> reporter who wrote the Aziz Ansari story sent when asked to go on HLN with <a href="https://twitter.com/TVAshleigh?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TVAshleigh</a>. It is really something.<a href="https://t.co/qTca5xA9m0">https://t.co/qTca5xA9m0</a> <a href="https://t.co/usZBm0KnIr">pic.twitter.com/usZBm0KnIr</a></p>— Max Tani (@maxwelltani) <a href="https://twitter.com/maxwelltani/status/953729116649517056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 17, 2018</a></blockquote>
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So she is exactly the kind of hair-triggered feminist/SJW that inspires eye rolls instead of thought and conversation.

tbf i'm pretty sure the anime tweet is a joke, not a hot take

 

[connor_in]

tbf i'm pretty sure the anime tweet is a joke, not a hot take

I am not saying your are not correct about that, but just wondering how you can tell? Did you look at the rest of that conversation, the rest of her timeline around that post, or just that it seems so absurd to most people?

So not being accusatory, just curious...and I have not looked at this person's twitter stuff to research for myself

 

[IrishLax]

tbf i'm pretty sure the anime tweet is a joke, not a hot take

Ehhhhhhh I'd think the same if I didn't read the rest of her stuff. You might be right though. It does seem beyond the pale.

 

[IrishLax]

I am not saying your are not correct about that, but just wondering how you can tell? Did you look at the rest of that conversation, the rest of her timeline around that post, or just that it seems so absurd to most people?

So not being accusatory, just curious...and I have not looked at this person's twitter stuff to research for myself

This was kind of why I thought she was serious, I read her blistering email and read her Twitter timeline and it seemed to fit. But she could totally be joking.

 

[wizards8507]

More gems from this chick.

https://babe.net/2017/12/20/how-to-drop-hints-that-hes-finishing-like-way-too-fast-25624

 

[fightingirish26]

I am not saying your are not correct about that, but just wondering how you can tell? Did you look at the rest of that conversation, the rest of her timeline around that post, or just that it seems so absurd to most people?

So not being accusatory, just curious...and I have not looked at this person's twitter stuff to research for myself

Well first of all it would obviously be a really ridiculous take if it was serious. And i'm not some twitter scientist, but millennial humor is dark like that nowadays and lots of clearly sarcastic tweets have a similar 'tone.' I honestly laughed when I read it, and I think that's what she was going for. Obviously could be wrong.

 

[fightingirish26]

It's been hard for me to figure out my final opinion on the Aziz Ansari story. On one hand, he seemed to do everything to make sure he was legally in the clear. The woman did not seem to do a good job of communicating her hesitation. I don't think that it should damage Ansari's career and I don't really think that it will.

On the other hand, it starts a conversation about how men should conduct themselves, regardless of what is considered law. My friend just shared his thoughts, which is why this topic came back into my mind. It is far more eloquent than I could have put it:

TL;DR: If you're a man interested in women, know that fear is a default component of your interactions and that it's a moral failure to pursue sex without working to level an inherently unbalanced power dynamic.

The Aziz Ansari fiasco provided a fleeting opportunity for heterosexual men to ask themselves why their desire to have sex reaches such levels of desperation, that it would drive behaviors that pursue it to the exclusion of all other things (like safety, the woman's comfort & enthusiasm, other forms of human intimacy & social fun etc.). But we've stopped short of investigating the motor that sped Aziz through dinner and through the sexual bases like an 18-year-old with the "free crib." Now the onus for self examination somehow falls upon women to draw a solid line between discomfort and "real assault," and bear sole responsibility for the former.

But I can't let that slide because I'm a black man, who in his interactions with the police know how they wield a system that eagerly exonerates them for every damn thing like the very taser they sometimes unlatch when we speak. The way the Grim Reaper lurks over the shoulders of every police officer that I see, so do Rape and other violent ghouls loom over all our shoulders as men. That is what it means to have institutional power: you are an inherent terror to the vulnerable. Therefore, the requirements for being a good, moral man, let alone a feminist, do not end with *not raping*, but they begin with establishing a sense of safety that frankly does not come automatically. It requires the work of de-centering your desires, openly communicating, and creating an atmosphere in which a woman's agency is not jeopardized by fear. It's not simple or straightforward work and it's a constant process, but it's necessary. Without actively undermining the specter of violence (sexual or otherwise) that pervades the interactions between men and women, it will be there when you try to fuck. Just think about that.

 

[wizards8507]

 

[ickythump1225]

Loved the tweet about the sexual revolution reaching its "reign of terror" phase. The pendulum is quickly swinging to far with "every accuser deserves to be believed" mantra. Now if you're a person with wealth or fame every awkward moment with a woman who gets vindictive has the power to ruin your name and career. Shit is fucked up.

MFW I agree with every word Buster said and have nothing to add:

 

[wizards8507]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You know how we talk about how the Left will eat itself? Get some popcorn for this one... <a href="https://t.co/yYM5XEori7">https://t.co/yYM5XEori7</a></p>— Dave Rubin (@RubinReport) <a href="https://twitter.com/RubinReport/status/959458759893426177?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 2, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Stay woke uguys.

 

[wizards8507]

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[IrishLax]

Chris Long -- awesome guys, doer of great stuff -- posts feel good story about getting drinking water to school children. Hard to hate, right?

Well, not for a feminist -- <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No women in your group����*♀️��</p>— #viginamonologue (@nightnurse38) <a href="https://twitter.com/nightnurse38/status/965659268950183936?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 19, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Best part? There were women involved, and she got summarily dunked on -- <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/qLV36Pm5vM">pic.twitter.com/qLV36Pm5vM</a></p>— Chris Long (@JOEL9ONE) <a href="https://twitter.com/JOEL9ONE/status/965695311153909760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 19, 2018</a></blockquote>
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