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[Whiskeyjack]

 

[calvegas04]

Let go USA!! Win this one for Vegas!!

 

[calvegas04]

GOOOOAAAAAAAALLLLLL!!!

 

[STLDomer]

Not only does the USA need Pulisic. The World Cup needs Pulisic. Superstar.

 

[notredomer23]

3-0 and really could be 5-0.

Poor officiating.

Pulisic is a GAWD.

Altidore has balls of steel.

Omar has been only downside.

Yedlin being injured is why we didn’t win at least one game the last fifa break. Our best player not named Pulisic

 

[calvegas04]

Can't wrap my mind around Gonzalez starting all these games

 

[notredomer23]

Can't wrap my mind around Gonzalez starting all these games

Brooks injured for another couple weeks unfortunately.

 

[Old Man Mike]

Bobby Wood is perhaps our toughest warrior. We need more force on the pitch. Pulisic is being beaten up and Nagbe gets scared by it. Our typical bigs, Altidore and Gonzalez, are actually like overgrown Teddy Bears --- they need to dish more out. Too bad goalies can't police some things, as Howard could do so. Little Dax McCarty IS a bit of a tough guy, but too small to be an enforcer.

Pulisic is a gem of great price, and Wood is a rock. Yedlin is rising to real world quality. Cameron and Brooks could solve a lot. Bradley is losing some competitiveness athletically, but still is one of our few thinkers. I could imagine Howard// Yedlin// Cameron// Brooks// xxx?left back// Bradley// yyy?"8"// Pulisic// Altidore-Dempsey// zzz?Attacking wing//Wood being a serviceable team if gaps plugged.

Gaps?: "ZZZ" --- will Nagbe toughen up? ; --- "XXX" --- could Lichtig (or however "Lehigh" is spelt) do better than Villafana?; --- "YYY" do we anyone as tough as Jermaine Jones has been in the past? We need some "bite" here, as one of the commentators said.

...... but the win was nice, even tough the Panama nasty thugness was not. (I was reminded of how Ibrahimovic got his "message" across to the guy who was thugging him in the EPL --- elbow to the jaw/temple on a header jump, and violent throw to the ground jogging downfield after a play.)

 

[NDShark]

Not sure if anyone brought up Arriola(sp) yet, but he had several opportunities to play square balls across the box for easy goals and instead decided to shoot and miss. I've seen enough of that guy.

 

[ACamp1900]

Can't wrap my mind around Gonzalez starting all these games

You're racist.

 

[BabyIrish]

Bye bye World Cup.... I'm embarrassed and ashamed. Drain the swamp

 

[gkIrish]

Horrible. I need Greece to beat whoever they draw out of Italy, Croatia, Denmark, and Switzerland or I'm going to have significantly less interest.

 

[calvegas04]

Omar Gonzalez is the biggest piece of shit, bruce arena too

 

[BabyIrish]

Omar Gonzalez is the biggest piece of shit, bruce arena too

I don't want to see any of the old guard ever again. They don't deserve it. Only three I'd bring back are pulisic yedlin and wood. After that it's fresh young players. No more of this comfortable entitled bull shit. We need that hunger and desire back.

 

[notredomer23]

Players we will never see again, even in friendlies:

Chris Wondolowski, Omar Gonzalez, Clint Dempsey, Matt Besler (though he was fine, just time) Tim Howard, Brad Guzan

Players we should never see again but will:

Michael Bradley, Darlington Nagbe (MAN, I thought he was awful tonight)

Players we will start to see:

Weston McKinnie, Erik Palmer Brown

Players who are locks for continuation to next cycle:
John Brooks, Deandre Yedlin, Christian Pulisic, Bobby Wood, Jozy Altidore. That's it.

And 1 Person I never want to see ever again in my life even as a commentator:

Bruce fucking Arena.

The US has only one option here. It is to say never again. Now I get it, after 2022 the US is a lock to qualify everytime. But this was the utmost embarrassing display of soccer I have seen over the course of a qualifying cycle in years. Do not hire an American that coaches in MLS. I love MLS, but look at Arena. He didn't call in a top 3 player for the US over the likes of Juan Agudelo, Chris Wondolowski, and Benny Feilhaber. Fabian Johnson was 100% what this team was missing this game. MLS is getting better, but showing blind loyalty to players you coached or played against in MLS when there are far better options is madness.

Above all that, it is clear he couldn't motivate this team. It is clear he couldn't coach this team to the level they had to be. They treated yesterday like a fucking joke, the day before the game that can solidify your place in the World Cup.

Shit, you didn't even play your best healthy centerback, Geoff Cameron, over Omar legless Gonzalez. Bruce Arena, for all the good he did for the game in this country, has a completely tarnished legacy and should never see the sidelines of a soccer pitch at any level again.

 

[IrishLion]

Ya'll think Dempsey will have anything left in the tank in 2022?

 

[GoldenDomer]

Embarrassing.

C'mon Ireland!

 

[notredomer23]

Ya'll think Dempsey will have anything left in the tank in 2022?

Hope he never sees the field again for the US. He is bad now.

 

[GowerND11]

BURN IT DOWN!


Also, COYBIG! You're all I have left.

 

[POTUS2017]

At least we as Americans don't need to pretend for another 4 years that for 2 weeks this is an actual sport....

 

[notredomer23]

At least we as Americans don't need to pretend for another 4 years that for 2 weeks this is an actual sport....

Go away, loser. You wouldn't last 5 minutes on a pitch.

 

[calvegas04]

At least we as Americans don't need to pretend for another 4 years that for 2 weeks this is an actual sport....

ban this troll

 

[ACamp1900]

So I just heard as wifi is near impossible here.... my assumption without any details of s Mexico could have saved us and lost?? Anyway, fairly upset... wish I didn't know.

 

[BabyIrish]

So I just heard as wifi is near impossible here.... my assumption without any details of s Mexico could have saved us and lost?? Anyway, fairly upset... wish I didn't know.

I didnt watch the other games but panama took the lead real late in their match. Mexico was up 2-1. Looks like there goalie had an own goal somehow. So I'm guessing they knew what they were doing.

 

[dublinirish]

I didnt watch the other games but panama took the lead real late in their match. Mexico was up 2-1. Looks like there goalie had an own goal somehow. So I'm guessing they knew what they were doing.

honduras had a shot that hit the bar and cannoned back and hit the mexican goalie on the back of the head, not much he could do. Mexico wanted to win the seal a perfect qualification which has never been done before but Honduras were fighting for their lives.

 

[notredomer23]

Had some time to reflect and while last night we can blame Gonzalez or Arena, it was a failure by US Soccer as a whole. Omar and Arena’s shortcomings just made sure we didn’t have a first round exit. It was a failure of development as a whole for the most important age group: 25-28. That’s two development cycles that were failures which is why we had to rely on Bradley and Omar in the first place. Look at how many players we have in 3 ages groups:

<24: 5
25-28: 3
29+: 15

The under 24 age group is fine with just 5, though you’d prefer a couple more.
25-28 needs to have minimum 9. This is your prime age group. We had almost no players in their prime other than Altidore (and Nagbe and Villafana, but neither had their core development in the US).
29+ is important for leadership, but you can’t rely on more than 1 or 2 of them. We relied on damn near 10 of them.

So in short, I have no idea what happened for the 25-28 age group, but that type of failure can never happen again. Given how well our youth teams are doing I don’t think we will see that absence of talent. That age group 25-28 failed to qualify for the Olympics and past youth world cups they didn’t make it past the first round.

Development is improving. It needs to continue improving.



Posted from my iPhone

 

[connor_in]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/TaylorTwellman?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TaylorTwellman</a> apoplectic on ESPN News right now. Great stuff. <a href="https://t.co/yEXI1tDpTB">pic.twitter.com/yEXI1tDpTB</a></p>— Phil Mackey (@PhilMackey) <a href="https://twitter.com/PhilMackey/status/917935602695397376?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 11, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[dublinirish]

you'd wanna see the shadiness that went on in the south american qualifying last night

 

[IrishLion]

US got F*CKED by a phantom goal in another match...

But they F*CKED THEMSELVES way harder.

 

[IrishLion]

So in short, I have no idea what happened for the 25-28 age group, but that type of failure can never happen again.

BAM!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Missing Years: my in-depth look into the the big development gap in American soccer which affects the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/USMNT?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#USMNT</a> to this day <a href="https://t.co/h10rrSS2ph">https://t.co/h10rrSS2ph</a></p>— Brian Sciaretta (@BrianSciaretta) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrianSciaretta/status/916083179500556294?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 5, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Basically, there were no quality soccer players born between 1990-1994 in the United States. Gotdamn Millennials.