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Normally this board won't shut up about Liverpool!

Literally came to post this picture of a live look at Liverpool
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Lol I was at ND for the UGA game this weekend and I didn't get to watch Liverpool/Man City live. I recorded it to watch later but now that I know the result, I think I am just gonna pretend like it never happened. After the UGA result, I can't take any more sports-fan disappointment right now. On to Wednesday and Sevilla. Come on you Red men!

(Side note: My ND buddies and I have done a guys trip for an ND game in each of the last three years. Each time we have seen ND lose on the last drive: Clemson, Texas, now UGA. We can't catch a break with these close games.)
 

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palace sack de boer after 4 games is well depressing

they should have beaten burnley 4-0 yesterday but the players totally shit the bed in front of goal.

back to Sam-Ball for them it seems.
 

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United, Munich, and Chelsea all roll today in UCL.

PSG 5-0 over Celtic.
Barca 3-0 over Juventus
Roma ties Atleti.
 

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Some drunk dipshit ran on the pitch today in Glasgow trying to kick or some such a PSG player... Celtic fans are pretty much in unison asking he be strung up. Much more upset about that than the game...
 

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United, Munich, and Chelsea all roll today in UCL.

PSG 5-0 over Celtic.
Barca 3-0 over Juventus
Roma ties Atleti.

Some interesting games in the second set of mid-week UCL games.

Spurs with a huge win over Dortmund playing an unlike-Poch sitting back style with fast counter attacking. BVB's high line got abused, Spurs finished +0.7 in xG which is solid.

Liverpool ties Sevilla but everyone in the group has 1 point so no biggie. Just +0.1 xG for the Reds with Sevilla being limited to 2 massive scoring chances, scoring both.

Favored darkhorse Napoli with a bit of a shocking 2-1 loss to Shakhtar. The Italian side were -1.2 in xG that's crazy.

I only saw highlights but it looks like Atleti were pretty unlucky (+1.7 xG) to have a scoreless draw with Roma.

Any Everton fans on the board? They brought in £143 million worth of players (net spending at least £35,000,000) and have looked pretty dreadful in league play. Just got smashed 3-0 (and embarrassing -2.0 xG) by Atalanta in the Europa League. I wonder if Koeman will regret moving from Southampton?
 

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Some interesting games in the second set of mid-week UCL games.

Spurs with a huge win over Dortmund playing an unlike-Poch sitting back style with fast counter attacking. BVB's high line got abused, Spurs finished +0.7 in xG which is solid.

Liverpool ties Sevilla but everyone in the group has 1 point so no biggie. Just +0.1 xG for the Reds with Sevilla being limited to 2 massive scoring chances, scoring both.

Favored darkhorse Napoli with a bit of a shocking 2-1 loss to Shakhtar. The Italian side were -1.2 in xG that's crazy.

I only saw highlights but it looks like Atleti were pretty unlucky (+1.7 xG) to have a scoreless draw with Roma.

Any Everton fans on the board? They brought in £143 million worth of players (net spending at least £35,000,000) and have looked pretty dreadful in league play. Just got smashed 3-0 (and embarrassing -2.0 xG) by Atalanta in the Europa League. I wonder if Koeman will regret moving from Southampton?

And then they got Mourinho'd yesterday. Really bad week for Everton. Everyone said pre-season, "look at Everton, they spent all that money and they are still gonna finish seventh." They have 11 places to climb even to get there.
 

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Wayne Rooney is still EXTREMELY clever and skilled out there, but offensively Everton looked like they had almost no other offense-capable player --- lots of hustle, but ManU was WAY too much for them in mid-field.

By the way, IE UNfavorite (but one of mine) Fellaini looked really good to my eye again. His "force" is valuable, and he combines it with more speed and shortburst quickness that you think the big guy has. He said to a reporter: I will do everything that I can to help the team win when I have the chance, and when I am on the pitch I give everything I have. My eye says that this is exactly correct, and I'll take all of that sort of player (in any sport) that I can get.
 

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Wayne Rooney is still EXTREMELY clever and skilled out there, but offensively Everton looked like they had almost no other offense-capable player --- lots of hustle, but ManU was WAY too much for them in mid-field.

By the way, IE UNfavorite (but one of mine) Fellaini looked really good to my eye again. His "force" is valuable, and he combines it with more speed and shortburst quickness that you think the big guy has. He said to a reporter: I will do everything that I can to help the team win when I have the chance, and when I am on the pitch I give everything I have. My eye says that this is exactly correct, and I'll take all of that sort of player (in any sport) that I can get.

Oh, he's tailor-made for one of the two defensive midfielder spots in a Mourinho 4-2-3-1. He and Matic next to each other are a formidable center midfield pairing.
 

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Liverpool's last three games.

80 attempts on goal.
19 on target.
3 goals.
 

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Ugh, so frustrating.

Liverpool fans focus their ire on the lapses in defending and the silly soft goals Liverpool concedes, and of course anyone can see that those are serious problems, but if Liverpool could just get in sync in the attacking third they would be outscoring teams and winning games by scores like 4-2, just like they did at Anfield in the Champs League tie against Hoffenheim. To watch them dominate game after game without getting W's is so frustrating. And it's not like in the Rodgers years, when LFC seemed to just lack ideas in the final third. Now, it's not a lack of creativity, it's a consistent failure to execute. It's just bizarre.
 

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Ugh, so frustrating.

Liverpool fans focus their ire on the lapses in defending and the silly soft goals Liverpool concedes, and of course anyone can see that those are serious problems, but if Liverpool could just get in sync in the attacking third they would be outscoring teams and winning games by scores like 4-2, just like they did at Anfield in the Champs League tie against Hoffenheim. To watch them dominate game after game without getting W's is so frustrating. And it's not like in the Rodgers years, when LFC seemed to just lack ideas in the final third. Now, it's not a lack of creativity, it's a consistent failure to execute. It's just bizarre.

While frustrating as a fan, to me that shows they might just be in a lull now. That is sure to at least somewhat balance out.
 

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While frustrating as a fan, to me that shows they might just be in a lull now. That is sure to at least somewhat balance out.

Yes, that is my hope. I really don't think the problem is that Liverpool lack quality in the attack. I think they are just in a rough patch.

But I am famous for being overly patient and optimistic with sports coaches and teams. You guys haven't seen me criticize Brian Kelly yet. ;0)
 

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In just these two years of watching soccer and listening to comments (by "professionals" and fans alike), I've seen what is to me an unbalanced Love Affair with strikers. OK. Ronaldo. Messi. I get that. But it seems to me (pretty clearly) that you cannot be an excellent team without:

A). Muscle and power in the midfield and the Air;
B). MANY people who have top-level skill working in tight places --- actually completing passes to their own team in an attack mode; and then, yes:
C). one at least clever striker.

Liverpool doesn't have "A", and without Lallana sometimes flubs "B" up. "C" comes from the wings.

The USMNT doesn't have "B" almost horribly so, other than Pulisic and when Bradley goes forward. Other than the grand old man (Dempsey) and the Wonder Boy, we seem to lack any striker with a clue.

The USWNT has all the components, but the coach has taken forever to locate them, and still doesn't quite have it right.(Paradoxically with a player-of-the-year who doesn't fit.)

ManU has "A" in spades, which releases Mkhitaran to help them far more with "B". Zlatan coming back is pretty scary.

CITY seems to have everything... especially a guy named DeBruyne --- damm he's good --- the perfect warrior who doesn't care who scores --- sort of a civilized Vidal.

I have watched so many teams put players out there who constantly give up the ball to the opponent (yet are allegedly playing because they occasionally score a goal) that it drives me nuts. (Altidore in most games; Zardes, despite his earnest play --- the USMNT has a splendid overabundance of blunderfoots when it comes to the final third.) Most of the time I'm wishing for a few members of Germany's third team (or, heresy, Mexico's second.)
 

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If Liverpool are going to attack and play high lines, their center halves will be exposed on counters. That being said, Lovren and Klavan are not good enough. When Lovren was at Southampton, he didn't play high. It wasn't Southampton's system. That's why Southampton Lovren > Liverpool Lovren.

Next summer Klopp should go for de Vrij and Hinteregger on frees, then sign with Van Dijk or Koulibaly to pair with Matip. Loan/sell Lovren and Klavan.

It's pretty obvious what the issue is. Hopefully for Liverpool's sake Klopp sees it.
 

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For those who don't know, tomorrow's The Old Firm:

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LOL!
 
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Who would have thought that even at this point in the season Raheem Sterling would be the leading goal scorer in the prem
 

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Liverpool ties again in the Champions League, this time with Spartak. Might only take 8 or 9 points to get out of that group, though.

Sevilla, City, Spurs, Napoli, Porto, and Madrid all cruise.

BVB with 0 points thru 2 games. If Spurs gain get a point at the Bernabeu next month.....
 

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Celtic just won 3-0 at Anderlecht... huge step towards European play beyond the groups...
 

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