Denbrock to OC

[Ironman8]

Now this isn't directed towards just you GK but do any of you guys actually think that Borges is a legitimate option at OC?

I don't. I think the only outside guy interviewing that could be OC is Quinn.

I think Borges and Paterson would be for QB Coach, and Denbrock would be OC.

 

[Luckylucci]

I don't. I think the only outside guy interviewing that could be OC is Quinn.

I think Borges and Paterson would be for QB Coach, and Denbrock would be OC.

Agreed and I think that's kind of obvious but this response is all over the place on here or any of the boards (BGI or II).

 

[NDinMich]

I like Al Borges about as much as most of you but I have heard stories around here (SE MI) that Borges was limited by the bumbling HC at UM.

Not sure why the HC that doesnt wear a headset (or long sleeves) would stick his nose in the offensive playcalling but thats what I've heard...

 

[gkIrish]

Now this isn't directed towards just you GK but do any of you guys actually think that Borges is a legitimate option at OC?

I wouldn't think so. Just wouldn't make sense. That's why I think it would be a colossal mistake.

 

[TheTurningPoint]

Another thing to take into thought is, Brian Kelly knows how to pick a staff. Sure, I am with the majority and want Quinn as the OC. Borges I am all for if hes the guy. Like I said earlier, no one wanted Heistand when he came, but it was the right fit. Kelly previous coordinators have head coaching jobs. Guys like Molnar to Butch Jones are getting head coaching gigs. BK is picking quality coaches and coordinators.

Going down the list there are guys that could be coordinators at decent to big time schools across the board. Elston was offered at Uconn. Alford was on a short list for a powerhouse. Elliott has been a DC in the past. Denbrock has been an OC. Cooks hasnt got his shot, but will in a short time. Booker is the only one that hasnt established himself, but he did get a 1st rd TE drafted and could have a 1st RD TE drafted this year according to some NFL scouts.

ND needed a change and will get a positive one.

Cheers to it hopefully being Quinn.

 

[greyhammer90]

Alford was on a short list for a powerhouse.

After this week...

 

[Luckylucci]

After this week...

Alford is going to be getting some serious looks moving forward. Either ND is going to pay him or somebody else will. Just a reality we have to deal with.

 

[IrishLax]

Mele is pretty adamant that Quinn won't be coming, and Mike Frank is still putting his chips on Denbrock getting the nod.

 

[CraigKrenzel]

Quinn to ND Intriguing but . . . - Campus Watch - The Buffalo News

I think this sums up what I was wondering. If the cupboard is bare at UB, what's the harm in being a successful OC at Notre Dame (where the cupboard is far from bare) with head coaching success? Decent resume; better than being fired from UB in 2-3 years?

 

[ND NYC]

i could care less what he decides, where he goes or how this ends up for him...as long as Kellys here we will have a great staff...but one thing is certain, Quinn needs to get the hell away from that Buffalo gig while he still can if he wants/thinks he should be runnin with big boys of CFB now or in the future. what AD takes the leap within next couple years? the HC hire is always a PR hire generate renewed interest.
imagne the AD, announcing his HC hire (most imprtant decison he make as a D-1 AD)...would your fanbase be excited by "i'm pleased to now introduce our new head Coach, former offernsive coordinator of the 2014 national champiionship Fightin Irish of Notre Dame..." or "i am pleased to announce our new coach from Buffalo University, oops wait i think its the University of Buffalo...anyway he used to be a head coach in upsate NY...now he's ours...trust me when i tell you this guy is good even though you may have never heard of him"

 

[Ironman8]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NotreDame&src=hash">#NotreDame</a> will soon begin interviews for a QBs coach. That will be most important role in replacing C. Martin -- developing Golson and Co.</p>— Jeremy Fowler (@JFowlerCBS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JFowlerCBS/statuses/422713255576887297">January 13, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[Cackalacky]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NotreDame&src=hash">#NotreDame</a> will soon begin interviews for a QBs coach. That will be most important role in replacing C. Martin -- developing Golson and Co.</p>— Jeremy Fowler (@JFowlerCBS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JFowlerCBS/statuses/422713255576887297">January 13, 2014</a></blockquote>
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So this really points to Denbrock getting the OC then... correct?

 

[Ironman8]

So this really points to Denbrock getting the OC then... correct?

That's where I'd put my money.

 

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This is my preferred direction to go. Perhaps there is a QB coach that can be an OC, but I really want a QB coach that's not Brian Kelly. No offense, coach.

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[dublinirish]

booo to whoever fixed the thread title

 

[dublinirish]

This is my preferred direction to go. Perhaps there is a QB coach that can be an OC, but I really want a QB coach that's not Brian Kelly. No offense, coach.

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Sounds like a pretty crappy gig, you know BK is just gonna step all over things. Sounds to me like it will be a younger coach that BK can groom rather than an established guy

 

[Irish YJ]

That's where I'd put my money.

Any reason we're putting more stock in Fowler than the other reports suggesting that BK is interviewing Quinn this week for the OC position? If the interview had already happened I might take it as a sign that Quinn wasn't going to happen, but though I read something suggesting the interview would be mid week?

 

[Irish8248]

Doesn't make sense -- if were hiring a qb coach then 3 of those names can be crossed off without even interviewing

Denbrock -- obviously not it
Paterson -- just hired as OC at uconn.
Quinn -- clearly not happening
Borges is the only real wild card

Why interview 2 other outsiders if they don't serve a purpose? BK could've invited those two down for a weekend to talk playbook and schematics without "interviewing" them. Its not to raise their coaching profile. Quinn isn't getting an extension again after just signing one. Patterson already landed an upgraded job. So if Borges is the only plausible choice, why not bring just him in to interview?

Maybe I just want it to be Quinn so badly that I'm missing something but I just don't get why he comes to south bend, at this particular point, for no other reason than to chat with a friend for an hour or so over coffee. He could've arranged that kind of meeting literally any other day and it would've made complete sense

 

[connor_in]

a few things...

1) I miss "Chuch"

2) To whomever said that Quinn wouldn't just come in for Starbucks with BK, please remember, we also have Dunkin Donuts now

3) I agree it is not crazy for Quinn to come here for OC job. If he can have dynamic quality players showcase his coaching capabilities nationally every week WITH also having shown success as a head coach previously, then I think it gets him more notice than just turning in "good" performances as HC at a small school. If you are looking at guys you sit there and go here is a great OC who has already shown he can be a pretty good HC. SO he would be more attractive to a larger program than what Chuck and Diaco just went to.

4) As far as Borges...no thanks...I don't know his history and Hoke may have handcuffed him (or his QB options), but that whole UM taint thing doesn't pass the smell test. Would hate to hear the comments from UM fans as well as they walk around Walmart.

 

[gkIrish]

a few things...

1) I miss "Chuch"

2) To whomever said that Quinn wouldn't just come in for Starbucks with BK, please remember, we also have Dunkin Donuts now

3) I agree it is not crazy for Quinn to come here for OC job. If he can have dynamic quality players showcase his coaching capabilities nationally every week WITH also having shown success as a head coach previously, then I think it gets him more notice than just turning in "good" performances as HC at a small school. If you are looking at guys you sit there and go here is a great OC who has already shown he can be a pretty good HC. SO he would be more attractive to a larger program than what Chuck and Diaco just went to.

4) As far as Borges...no thanks...I don't know his history and Hoke may have handcuffed him (or his QB options), but that whole UM taint thing doesn't pass the smell test. Would hate to hear the comments from UM fans as well as they walk around Walmart.

WE HAVE DD ON CAMPUS NOW?????

 

[connor_in]

Sounds like a pretty crappy gig, you know BK is just gonna step all over things. Sounds to me like it will be a younger coach that BK can groom rather than an established guy

Grooming...ewwww

 

[connor_in]

WE HAVE DD ON CAMPUS NOW?????

just north of it in Roseland...BK made a point of mentioning it in one of those NBC ND video they make every so often

 

[Ndaccountant]

Grooming...ewwww

Is that footage of UF's offensive coaches meeting?

 

[greyhammer90]

So is Quinn coming in for an interview confirmed?

 

[Irish#1]

Being HC at Buffalo is not on the same level as OC at ND. That's more like a DII job. I would guess he would have less pressure to succeed at Buffalo than at ND. If he wants to be a HC at a major program someday then the path has to be easier taking the OC job. Then he can say he ran his own program and has experience with the big boys as well.

 

[Luckylucci]

Being HC at Buffalo is not on the same level as OC at ND. That's more like a DII job. I would guess he would have less pressure to succeed at Buffalo than at ND. If he wants to be a HC at a major program someday then the path has to be easier taking the OC job. Then he can say he ran his own program and has experience with the big boys as well.

While I agree with what your trying to say, keep in mind that he turned down the OC job at ND to go to Buffalo. He was ND's OC for about 1 week when Kelly first got hired and then Buffalo offered him the HC job and he took it. Which in turn had Kelly choose Molnar.

 

[connor_in]

While I agree with what your trying to say, keep in mind that he turned down the OC job at ND to go to Buffalo. He was ND's OC for about 1 week when Kelly first got hired and then Buffalo offered him the HC job and he took it. Which in turn had Kelly choose Molnar.

Yes, and he has that experience now and a decent record. But to get noticed, you go back to the big time and play with the shiny toys to show what you can do and your resume is better than guys who don't already have that on theirs. He's done good things a UB, not like Molnar crawling away from UMass (although that was a no win scenario that Cap'n Kirk couldn't beat either)

 

[Luckylucci]

Yes, and he has that experience now and a decent record. But to get noticed, you go back to the big time and play with the shiny toys to show what you can do and your resume is better than guys who don't already have that on theirs. He's done good things a UB, not like Molnar crawling away from UConn (although that was a no win scenario that Cap'n Kirk couldn't beat either)

UMASS but I knew what you meant.

 

[Irish#1]

While I agree with what your trying to say, keep in mind that he turned down the OC job at ND to go to Buffalo. He was ND's OC for about 1 week when Kelly first got hired and then Buffalo offered him the HC job and he took it. Which in turn had Kelly choose Molnar.

And now that he's been there, maybe he's seeing it's not all that he thought it would be. You can't recruit to Buffalo. Maybe he would like to see what he can do you a roster loaded with talent?

 

[connor_in]

UMASS but I knew what you meant.

What are you talkin' about? I see no mistake