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[Meatloaf]

What would be really funny, is that if Glennon balls out and we have Mitchy Poo just sitting on the bench.

I think you're safe there on Glennon balling out.

 

[woolybug25]

That moment when I yelled "what in the actual fuck!?!?!"
While my phone is getting blown up with lol emojis.


Jesus...

I was running a few minutes late, and I dvr'd it, but I knew something was up when I had over 20 text messages within a couple minutes of the pick.

 

[woolybug25]

I think you're safe there on Glennon balling out.

ha... [/shrug]

 

[Cackalacky]

Not a Bear's fan but what the actual fuck did they do? Are they actively trying to give Cleveland a run for its money as worst franchise in sports history?

 

[woolybug25]

Not a Bear's fan but what the actual fuck did they do? Are they actively trying to give Cleveland a run for its money as worst franchise in sports history?

 

[ozzman]

Seriously, give up that much for a guy that can only say "set, hut"

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I want to cry. Terrible, terrible move

 

[Ndaccountant]

Not a Bear's fan but what the actual fuck did they do? Are they actively trying to give Cleveland a run for its money as worst franchise in sports history?

While the Bears really had a questionable moment, this is what we Browns fans have had to endure....

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[zelezo vlk]

Not a Bear's fan but what the actual fuck did they do? Are they actively trying to give Cleveland a run for its money as worst franchise in sports history?

The Niners have been fielding trade offers the entire offseason to see what they could get, because they desperately need talent. Case in point: The Niners and Bears played last year and da Bears clobbered them by 20 points, because SF's whole core from a few years ago retired and they were left with nothing.

Ryan Pace wanted Trubisky and knew that the Niners' plan was to trade down. Instead of being leapfrogged by the Jets or anybody, Pace pulled the trigger to get the guy he clearly thinks can be a franchise QB. This cost them a few mid-round picks, which hurts, because though the cupboard has been restocked a bit, they still need depth and impact players across the board. But Ryan Pace don't give a f*ck and wanted his Mr. Biscuit (Trubisky's actual nickname, oh my gosh we're screwed).

 

[Ndaccountant]

The Niners have been fielding trade offers the entire offseason to see what they could get, because they desperately need talent. Case in point: The Niners and Bears played last year and da Bears clobbered them by 20 points, because SF's whole core from a few years ago retired and they were left with nothing.

Ryan Pace wanted Trubisky and knew that the Niners' plan was to trade down. Instead of being leapfrogged by the Jets or anybody, Pace pulled the trigger to get the guy he clearly thinks can be a franchise QB. This cost them a few mid-round picks, which hurts, because though the cupboard has been restocked a bit, they still need depth and impact players across the board. But Ryan Pace don't give a f*ck and wanted his Mr. Biscuit (Trubisky's actual nickname, oh my gosh we're screwed).

The question is whether or not you would rather have Mitchell -- seriously, I laughed when they kept calling him that --, or take Adams at #3 and select one of Darnold or Josh Allen next year. It ain't close, considering the Bears are not a QB away from being great and Glennon is a good stop gap.

 

[Rogue219]

I'd have thought that by signing Glennon, they were going to go after defense with that third pick. Or trade DOWN and go for defense.

They're pretty bad from top to bottom, so I don't know what you really focus on for them. By doing what they've done, do they lean toward getting these guys OL and TE now? Those seem to be consensus areas of need along with DBs.

It wasn't boring last night, that much is for sure.

 

[zelezo vlk]

The question is whether or not you would rather have Mitchell -- seriously, I laughed when they kept calling him that --, or take Adams at #3 and select one of Darnold or Josh Allen next year. It ain't close, considering the Bears are not a QB away from being great and Glennon is a good stop gap.

If Glennon is a good stop gap, how would they have been in position to draft Darnold next year without actually selling the farm (Rams & Philly last year, Skins in '12)? I wanted defensive players in the 1st and whatever QB fell in the 2nd. Clearly Pace saw Trubisky as a franchise QB and pulled the trigger. I can't fault him for going after his guy, I just would have preferred to build the team first.

I'd have thought that by signing Glennon, they were going to go after defense with that third pick. Or trade DOWN and go for defense.

They're pretty bad from top to bottom, so I don't know what you really focus on for them. By doing what they've done, do they lean toward getting these guys OL and TE now? Those seem to be consensus areas of need along with DBs.

It wasn't boring last night, that much is for sure.

I mean, they've got a good front 7 and a near elite interior O line, plus a Pro Bowl running back. They were killed with injuries more than anything else last year. They still need another tackle to provide depth on the O line, a TE for the future, and playmakers in the secondary.

I do expect Pace to get offensive weapons with some of his other picks, because I think it's pretty common to pair rookie QBs with young weapons.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

The good news is the Bears will challenge for #1 overall next year and they won't be going after QB. Trading down to regain picks seems like a no-brainer.

 

[Ndaccountant]

If Glennon is a good stop gap, how would they have been in position to draft Darnold next year without actually selling the farm (Rams & Philly last year, Skins in '12)? I wanted defensive players in the 1st and whatever QB fell in the 2nd. Clearly Pace saw Trubisky as a franchise QB and pulled the trigger. I can't fault him for going after his guy, I just would have preferred to build the team first.



I mean, they've got a good front 7 and a near elite interior O line, plus a Pro Bowl running back. They were killed with injuries more than anything else last year. They still need another tackle to provide depth on the O line, a TE for the future, and playmakers in the secondary.

I do expect Pace to get offensive weapons with some of his other picks, because I think it's pretty common to pair rookie QBs with young weapons.

Stop gap in terms of not having a Browns situation where you have a 14 starting QB's in the next two years. It's whether or not you believe Mitchell - hehe - with one year in the NFL is better than drafting a QB next year. Given the talent and system the Bears use, I think the latter is the better approach, but we shall see.

 

[BobbyMac]

The Niners have been fielding trade offers the entire offseason to see what they could get, because they desperately need talent. Case in point: The Niners and Bears played last year and da Bears clobbered them by 20 points, because SF's whole core from a few years ago retired and they were left with nothing.

Ryan Pace wanted Trubisky and knew that the Niners' plan was to trade down. Instead of being leapfrogged by the Jets or anybody, Pace pulled the trigger to get the guy he clearly thinks can be a franchise QB. This cost them a few mid-round picks, which hurts, because though the cupboard has been restocked a bit, they still need depth and impact players across the board. But Ryan Pace don't give a f*ck and wanted his Mr. Biscuit (Trubisky's actual nickname, oh my gosh we're screwed).

Two 3rd round picks are not mid rounders. Playoff teams are built in the 3rd and 4th rounds. When you pick at #3, you don't worry about the 2 guys you can't have unless Peyton Manning or John Elway is coming out that year. They're the ONLY players I would have made this deal for in my lifetime... and with Elway, you could have traded down to the bottom of the 1st with a dummy like Pace. picked up a couple of 3rds, a fourth and still got Dan Marino.

 

[Rogue219]

Time will tell. If he's not good two years from now, Pace gets fired. And there will probably be a new coach after next year if they go 5-11 or whatever. So that means the new coach will have a new GM that didn't hire him, which totally sucks.

So it's all on Mitchell's shoulders, which isn't really fair...

He does throw a beautiful ball, though.

 

[dublinirish]

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[zelezo vlk]

Two 3rd round picks are not mid rounders. Playoff teams are built in the 3rd and 4th rounds. When you pick at #3, you don't worry about the 2 guys you can't have unless Peyton Manning or John Elway is coming out that year. They're the ONLY players I would have made this deal for in my lifetime... and with Elway, you could have traded down to the bottom of the 1st with a dummy like Pace. picked up a couple of 3rds, a fourth and still got Dan Marino.

Crus, there are only 7 rounds in the NFL draft. A 3rd round pick is a mid rounder.

 

[woolybug25]

Crus, there are only 7 rounds in the NFL draft. A 3rd round pick is a mid rounder.

You're side stepping his point. 3rd and 4th round picks, especially in this draft, are valuable.

 

[Rogue219]

Crus, there are only 7 rounds in the NFL draft. A 3rd round pick is a mid rounder.

I'm not a mathematician, but mid round would be 3-4-5 then correct?

(Sorry. Trying to lighten the mood a bit)

 

[RDU Irish]

What in the actual F are these people smoking to see this guy as SOOO much more of a franchise lock QB than Kizer, Watson or Mahomes to give up so much is just completely beyond any realm of adult behavior that I can't get over it, ever. Slept on it and might be more pissed today after reflection than I was last night in the moment.

I was prepared to be irritated with a QB (any of them) picked at #3, even if two were taken ahead of them and they passed on Garrett to get the #3 QB. I was hopeful they would take the OPPORTUNITY to build a team by trading down and bankrolling more top 40-60 picks in a VERY deep draft and taking a "best available" approach b/c (let's be honest) its not like almost every position shouldn't be on the table for improvement and this should be a two year target, not a one year fix.

But to give up so many quality bodies for one swing at a project is beyond irresponsible. NEXT year if they killed this draft is when you take a swing OR see who drops and waste your 2nd round pick on Kizer AND pick another up next year in a deeper draft to put more eggs in the basket. Trading down they would have been had the extra swing to take without compromising their laundry list of other needs.

I also don't see the offense as that talented. White is all potential - no proven #1 by any stretch of the imagination. Miller is good but I could see all three of the 1st round TEs being better - and nobody says we can't run 2 TEs! Royal and Meredeth are decent - not dominant or proven, plenty of room to add a weapon there. #15 OL play is the closest thing they have to a "good" unit - maybe you go for great there and build around. I see the offense as more duct tape and bailing wire than I see on track for a move up the rankings - or ready to plug in a QB in a couple years.

 

[zelezo vlk]

You're side stepping his point. 3rd and 4th round picks, especially in this draft, are valuable.

You're right, I should have responded longer, but I became distracted.

Two 3rd round picks are not mid rounders. Playoff teams are built in the 3rd and 4th rounds. When you pick at #3, you don't worry about the 2 guys you can't have unless Peyton Manning or John Elway is coming out that year. They're the ONLY players I would have made this deal for in my lifetime... and with Elway, you could have traded down to the bottom of the 1st with a dummy like Pace. picked up a couple of 3rds, a fourth and still got Dan Marino.

Crus, I'm not here to tell you that Mr. Biscuit is the next Manning, Brady or anybody. But Ryan Pace sure thinks that Trubisky is a franchise QB prospect, and that is worth way more than getting an additional starter in the 3rd or 4th round. We see nearly the same playoff teams every year, because they have the best QBs. Sure, there are some teams like the Texans or Broncos in 2015 that go in on the strength of their defense, but without the QB you set yourself up for failure. Is another Deon Bush or Kwiatkoski going to make the difference between being a top 10 pick or playing in January? No, probably not, but a QB will.

Pace found a guy he's willing to stake his job on and targeted him. It's not what I would have done, but we see every year teams trade up and pay huge sums of draft picks to pick a Wentz, Goff, RG3 or whomever. The mantra is always "you can't put a price on a franchise Quarterback" when the Eagles are giving up future 1sts or the Skins give up 3 1st round picks. The Bears had their chance at getting their guy, so they took it. If Mr. Biscuit pans out, then it's worth that trade easily. You can't get your QB if you're unwilling to draft one, and Pace decided Mitchell is the guy.

 

[RDU Irish]

You're side stepping his point. 3rd and 4th round picks, especially in this draft, are valuable.

3rd pick of the 3rd round this year and probably the first pick of the third round next year (definitely top five) plus the 4th pick of the 4th round this year. VERY valuable this year - like others say, playoff contenders are built on 3rd and 4th round picks. ESPECIALLY this year's talent and how well it matches up with the Bears needs (sans QB) it is the perfect draft to load up on those picks and fill the roster with some actual freaking talent. Good teams don't fight over weak position groups - they sit back and scoop up value that falls to them and GTFO the way of the jizz their pants spazzes that fall in love with someone and overpay to get them.

 

[ACamp1900]

Not a Bear's fan but what the actual fuck did they do? Are they actively trying to give Cleveland a run for its money as worst franchise in sports history?

What the actual fuck did you just say?

 

[RDU Irish]

You're right, I should have responded longer, but I became distracted.



Crus, I'm not here to tell you that Mr. Biscuit is the next Manning, Brady or anybody. But Ryan Pace sure thinks that Trubisky is a franchise QB prospect, and that is worth way more than getting an additional starter in the 3rd or 4th round. We see nearly the same playoff teams every year, because they have the best QBs. Sure, there are some teams like the Texans or Broncos in 2015 that go in on the strength of their defense, but without the QB you set yourself up for failure. Is another Deon Bush or Kwiatkoski going to make the difference between being a top 10 pick or playing in January? No, probably not, but a QB will.

Pace found a guy he's willing to stake his job on and targeted him. It's not what I would have done, but we see every year teams trade up and pay huge sums of draft picks to pick a Wentz, Goff, RG3 or whomever. The mantra is always "you can't put a price on a franchise Quarterback" when the Eagles are giving up future 1sts or the Skins give up 3 1st round picks. The Bears had their chance at getting their guy, so they took it. If Mr. Biscuit pans out, then it's worth that trade easily. You can't get your QB if you're unwilling to draft one, and Pace decided Mitchell is the guy.

Pace is an idiot. I choose not to associate with mouth breathing morons that shoot themselves in the foot. Not only does he think MT is a franchise QB but he must also think this dumpster fire of a team is a QB away from greatness. Look no further than Indianapolis for your future of the program, with the difference of theirs being a QB worth bidding on in the draft (and they earned that spot fair and square).

Not to mention - NOT A SINGLE ONE OF YOUR EXAMPLES WORKED OUT FOR THOSE TEAMS. More often than not, it sets the franchise back. I guess you will say Wentz and Goff are TBD but you have zero examples of these moves up turning a franchise into a dynasty.

 

[Rogue219]

How the hell did Mr. Football in Ohio wind up at North Carolina?

 

[IHateMarkMay]

Yesterday, I was upset, like all of you. I was hoping Solomon Thomas/Jamal Adams at pick three and QB (hopefully Kizer) round two.

While I still think it was stupid, for comparison's sake, last year Philly gave Cleveland 1st, 3rd, 4th of that draft, plus their 1st rounder pick this year, and their second rounder in 2018 to get Carson Wentz and a conditional fifth round pick in '17. I agree that the Bears gave up a lot, I would be even more pissed if they gave up what Philly did.

I just hope that this guys balls out in a few years and we draft some good defense with the rest of our draft.

 

[Rack Em]

I just hope that this guys balls out in a few years and we draft some good defense with the rest of our draft.

You want his balls out? Weird.

 

[dublinirish]

How the hell did Mr. Football in Ohio wind up at North Carolina?

he had an offer from OSU and visited them and Tennessee but chose UNC. Had a Bama offer too but i dunno if it was committable

 

[Ndaccountant]

How the hell did Mr. Football in Ohio wind up at North Carolina?

He was pretty highly ranked, but MSU got a guy that was about equal in ratings from PA, Meyer at OSU offered -- not committable -- and went with Barrett. ND had Zaire, who was ranked higher as well. scUM had Morris -- hehe -- and PSU had Hackenberg.

In reality, he fell through the cracks but the guys taken ahead of him were ranked higher at that time.

 

[RDU Irish]

Yesterday, I was upset, like all of you. I was hoping Solomon Thomas/Jamal Adams at pick three and QB (hopefully Kizer) round two.

While I still think it was stupid, for comparison's sake, last year Philly gave Cleveland 1st, 3rd, 4th of that draft, plus their 1st rounder pick this year, and their second rounder in 2018 to get Carson Wentz and a conditional fifth round pick in '17. I agree that the Bears gave up a lot, I would be even more pissed if they gave up what Philly did.

I just hope that this guys balls out in a few years and we draft some good defense with the rest of our draft.

One of the reasons I won't even consider Philly in my new team list. On top of their fan base being a jackasses the franchise is pretty hard to stomach. They will be hamstrung by that decision for years - EVEN IF Wentz is the next Tom Brady he probably won't have the talent around him to make it happen.

This is why Cleveland is in such a great position going forward, they took advantage of the someone else's blind lust. I was hopeful that Chicago was going to the direction of taking advantage of others but instead they jumped into the blindly lustful category.