Brian Kelly to LSU, per report

[chisea03]

got some trouble at lsu had to fire mens bb coach maybe football getting swept up?

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[BrownerandFry]

Scott Woodward is the Athletic Director at LSU and has been since Summer '19.

He inherited that Putinesque lying cheating scumbag Will Wade. Wade gone

He inherited Orgeron and Orgeron is gone.

He hired Kim Mulkey as his women's basketball coach
He hired Brian Kelly as his football coach.

He inherited a mess and some marginal characters.

"Herculean labor" is from Hercules' work in cleaning the stinky augean Stables.

What Woodward inherited was far more rancid and fetid.

But I would not underestimate him.

With the lying Wade now fully discredited, he will make a hire worthy of Mulkey and kelly for men's hoops.

Woodward is a winner, and good coaches are attracted to working for him.

 

[Junkhead]

I'm torn. I'm not rooting for Kelly at LSU due to how he left ND. On the other hand, I can't ever root for Saban or Bama. In a NC showdown, I feel like I'd almost have to root for Kelly/LSU over Bama. Should I feel bad about that? lol

 

[SouthSideChiDomer]

Scott Woodward is the Athletic Director at LSU and has been since Summer '19.

He inherited that Putinesque lying cheating scumbag Will Wade. Wade gone

He inherited Orgeron and Orgeron is gone.

He hired Kim Mulkey as his women's basketball coach
He hired Brian Kelly as his football coach.

He inherited a mess and some marginal characters.

"Herculean labor" is from Hercules' work in cleaning the stinky augean Stables.

What Woodward inherited was far more rancid and fetid.

But I would not underestimate him.

With the lying Wade now fully discredited, he will make a hire worthy of Mulkey and kelly for men's hoops.

Woodward is a winner, and good coaches are attracted to working for him.

He also hired Frank Wilson when apparently everyone there knew about the skeletons in his closet, so its not like Woodward has an impeccable record.

 

[BobbyMac]

Scott Woodward is the Athletic Director at LSU and has been since Summer '19.

He inherited that Putinesque lying cheating scumbag Will Wade. Wade gone

He inherited Orgeron and Orgeron is gone.

He hired Kim Mulkey as his women's basketball coach
He hired Brian Kelly as his football coach.

He inherited a mess and some marginal characters.

"Herculean labor" is from Hercules' work in cleaning the stinky augean Stables.

What Woodward inherited was far more rancid and fetid.

But I would not underestimate him.

With the lying Wade now fully discredited, he will make a hire worthy of Mulkey and kelly for men's hoops.

Woodward is a winner, and good coaches are attracted to working for him.

Will Wade is Putinesque?

 

[BrownerandFry]

Will Wade is Putinesque?

lying cheating scumbag, just like Vlad

 

[NorthDakota]

lying cheating scumbag, just like Vlad

I promise you we don't need a new version of Godwin's Law.

Please stop.

 

[BobbyMac]

I promise you we don't need a new version of Godwin's Law.

Please stop.

 

[T-Boone]

I am fine with how BK left ND.
Anybody who leaves a job with class is a nerd if you ask me. Use the bosses head as bongo’s on the way out.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

I am fine with how BK left ND.
Anybody who leaves a job with class is a nerd if you ask me. Use the bosses head as bongo’s on the way out.

You've either grown up with way more than 99.9% of the population or you've been so supremely talented, you can carry a sentiment like that and still find work. Or you're a pizza guy.

I'd never consider saying something like this and I'd never teach it to my children. It's kind of an anti-truth.

If you wrote a book, "How to fail and tarnish your reputation in an industry" that would probably be probably comprise the first chapter.

 

[phork]

I'm torn. I'm not rooting for Kelly at LSU due to how he left ND. On the other hand, I can't ever root for Saban or Bama. In a NC showdown, I feel like I'd almost have to root for Kelly/LSU over Bama. Should I feel bad about that? lol

I'm not torn. I want to see Kelly get blasted every time he plays anyone.

 

[IrishLion]

I'm not torn. I want to see Kelly get blasted every time he plays anyone.

I am the opposite lol. He seems like the lesser of 11 or 12 of the 14 evils in the SEC.

I would probably root for Arkansas and UK over him, but otherwise I'd take BK over the rest of the SEC in terms of rooting interests.

On the surface, it seems super fucked up that he left ND for LSU, especially the way he did it while out recruiting. And I guess there's the whole "he's not one of us anymore, so fuck him for going to what he thinks are greener pastures" thing.

But I honestly don't hold much of a grudge. He built a foundation that is capable of winning championships with a little bit of luck in recruiting, and maybe with a friendly-enough playoff draw. That's not small potatoes, when considering what Willingham and Weis did in terms of screwing up the back end of the roster and destroying the program's overall depth.

So he might have been a dick in general, and he might be acting like LSU is comparable to ND on the recruiting trail, but he put the program in a place where a better man/recruiter might be able to finish the mission and win a championship. So I'll grudgingly give him props, and I'd gladly root for him over most of the scum in the SEC... plus, I was probably in the camp that was ready to move on from BK in search of a coach that could get the program over the hump, so the abrupt departure didn't really offend me in the first place.

 

[T-Boone]

You've either grown up with way more than 99.9% of the population or you've been so supremely talented, you can carry a sentiment like that and still find work. Or you're a pizza guy.

I'd never consider saying something like this and I'd never teach it to my children. It's kind of an anti-truth.

If you wrote a book, "How to fail and tarnish your reputation in an industry" that would probably be probably comprise the first chapter.

Would you like garlic bread with that order?

 

[ACamp1900]

I hope he gets fired after one season bc it goes that poorly,… lol

 

[IHateMarkMay]

I'll root for LSU the same amount. If any SEC team is undefeated, I want them to lose. Ideally, they'd all turn out 6-6.

 

[Valpodoc85]

I sit on the fence with this one. The great debate was ND can't win a Natty in the modern era vs Kelly can't win a natty. Being a ND homer I want ND to win a natty and Kelly to lose at LSU just to end that debate. In the near term I'll settle for upgraded recruiting and LSU losing

 

[Blazers46]

Whatever helps ND. Would Kelly winning help ND or would Kelly losing help ND? What would the running narrative be either way? For ND?

 

[GATTACA!]

Whatever helps ND. Would Kelly winning help ND or would Kelly losing help ND? What would the running narrative be either way? For ND?

How would him winning help us?

 

[Blazers46]

How would him winning help us?

Kelly might get a statue at ND one day. I would think it would look really bad to a have a legendary coach fall on his face. 5 years from now recruits will be walking the halls and seeing his face.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Having Kelly succeed at LSU might help ND. It could force the administration to recognize that with more support for football, that could have been what he would have done at ND.

 

[BrownerandFry]

You've either grown up with way more than 99.9% of the population or you've been so supremely talented, you can carry a sentiment like that and still find work. Or you're a pizza guy.

I'd never consider saying something like this and I'd never teach it to my children. It's kind of an anti-truth.

If you wrote a book, "How to fail and tarnish your reputation in an industry" that would probably be probably comprise the first chapter.

It depends.

If you are in a tight industry (I was-- everyone knew the good guys from the dickheads)

If you burned a good guy on the way out you were of less value
If you burned a dickhead on the way out, it merely increased your esteem and perceived value.

Never forget this: You can learn a lot about someone by studying the nature of their enemies.

You don't need to be gratuitous but you can speak your truth.

 

[dad4aa]

Kelly might get a statue at ND one day. I would think it would look really bad to a have a legendary coach fall on his face. 5 years from now recruits will be walking the halls and seeing his face.

I don't see that ever happening. Cannot imagine ND putting up a statue of a coach who never won at least one NC regardless of the total wins in history...especially with the "f*ck you" abrupt departure he did.

 

[Te'o4Heisman]

You've either grown up with way more than 99.9% of the population or you've been so supremely talented, you can carry a sentiment like that and still find work. Or you're a pizza guy.

I'd never consider saying something like this and I'd never teach it to my children. It's kind of an anti-truth.

If you wrote a book, "How to fail and tarnish your reputation in an industry" that would probably be probably comprise the first chapter.

All his post told me is he has never been more than a schlep at any company he’s worked, and has never been in a position of power or ownership and had anybody do that bullshit to him. Its how people on the bottom stay on the bottom.

 

[Blazers46]

I don't see that ever happening. Cannot imagine ND putting up a statue of a coach who never won at least one NC regardless of the total wins in history...especially with the "f*ck you" abrupt departure he did.

Maybe so. But still it’s probably more ideal to have your all time winning coach not look like fraud post ND.

 

[stlnd01]

Kelly's never getting a statue at Notre Dame. That's ridiculous. (I say this as someone who consistently supported/believed in him and still wants to like the guy). You only get a statue if you win a national championship. And he didn't.

That said, if he goes and wins one at LSU, it will be seen as indictment of Notre Dame. He left - in my opinion - chiefly because he thought he could do there the one thing he had not accomplished and apparently decided he could not accomplish at Notre Dame: Win a national championship.

Likewise, if he goes 6-6 or whatever and falls on his face, it will be seen as an indictment of Notre Dame. The winningest coach at a program that holds itself up as a pinnacle of college football can't win in the SEC! He's a fraud, propped up by Notre Dame's weak schedule. They don't play no one, Paawwl! We'd never hear the end of it.

So, for us, the best outcome is BK's LSU teams to be very good but not quite great. Win 10 or 11 games, compete for SEC titles, make the occasional CFP but not advance. Basically to do what he did at Notre Dame. While Marcus Freeman elevates Notre Dame's talent level and pushes us past what Kelly could do.

 

[Irish#1]

I could see Kelly getting a statue in about 20 years. Not erected by the stadium though. More like by the Gug.

 

[Rasputin]

I could see Kelly getting a statue in about 20 years. Not erected by the stadium though. More like by the Gug.

Probably not a full statute. Just a bust.

 

[drayer54]

I'm torn. I'm not rooting for Kelly at LSU due to how he left ND. On the other hand, I can't ever root for Saban or Bama. In a NC showdown, I feel like I'd almost have to root for Kelly/LSU over Bama. Should I feel bad about that? lol

Yes.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

I am the opposite lol. He seems like the lesser of 11 or 12 of the 14 evils in the SEC.

I would probably root for Arkansas and UK over him, but otherwise I'd take BK over the rest of the SEC in terms of rooting interests.

On the surface, it seems super fucked up that he left ND for LSU, especially the way he did it while out recruiting. And I guess there's the whole "he's not one of us anymore, so fuck him for going to what he thinks are greener pastures" thing.

But I honestly don't hold much of a grudge. He built a foundation that is capable of winning championships with a little bit of luck in recruiting, and maybe with a friendly-enough playoff draw. That's not small potatoes, when considering what Willingham and Weis did in terms of screwing up the back end of the roster and destroying the program's overall depth.

So he might have been a dick in general, and he might be acting like LSU is comparable to ND on the recruiting trail, but he put the program in a place where a better man/recruiter might be able to finish the mission and win a championship. So I'll grudgingly give him props, and I'd gladly root for him over most of the scum in the SEC... plus, I was probably in the camp that was ready to move on from BK in search of a coach that could get the program over the hump, so the abrupt departure didn't really offend me in the first place.

Lion, everything you said here makes so much sense, and I wish I could be as big a man as you...but I just can't help but think "*uck that man." lol

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

I hope he gets fired after one season bc it goes that poorly,… lol

ding ding ding. I have no love for LSU so the optics of BK and the Tigers getting humiliated (and paying him a shit load of guaranteed money in the process) would be hilarious. Unfortunately, I think he's got a nice cushion for two or three years to try and get that program relaunched before they'd ever pull the trigger.

ding ding ding. I have no love for LSU so the optics of BK and the Tigers getting humiliated (and paying him a shit load of guaranteed money in the process) would be hilarious. Unfortunately, I think he's got a nice cushion for two or three years to try and get that program relaunched before they'd ever pull the trigger.

Kelly might get a statue at ND one day. I would think it would look really bad to a have a legendary coach fall on his face. 5 years from now recruits will be walking the halls and seeing his face.

I'm saying this as someone who does not have any real "inner-connections" at ND, but I don't see any way BK would ever be getting a statue.

The obvious reason is that he never won a NC, but let's not forget the baggage that BK carried here as well. His fault or not, you have the Declan Sullivan tragedy, the academic "scandal," the Saint Mary's allegations/Prince Shembo.

Now I'm not saying how much BK is or isn't at fault for any of this, I wasn't there, I didn't carry out the investigations, etc, but I just know there was a large contingent of ND alumni/supporters who were never a fan of CBK and I can't imagine they were ever supportive of a statue even with a Natty, let alone without it. I have relatives who are alumni and I know that they, along with some of their peers I've spoken to at games over the years, were never very supportive of BK.

From a football standpoint, I was always a supporter of him and thought he did a remarkable job here resurrecting this program. I just think there's another side to this story and some people have very strong opinions about the man and his career here.