Brian Kelly Revisited (RIP BOZO)

[CoachB]

Forgot to add. Those late 80s and early 90s Hurricane teams were tough. I hated them, but life down at the Orange bowl was tough on the Irish. That 1988 win was a great win!

 

[Armyirish47]

My apologies if this was linked elsewhere....CBS Sports.com has released it's ranking of the Top 25 Power 5 Coaches.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/ranking-the-top-25-power-five-college-football-coaches-entering-the-2020-season/

Checking in at #5....

"Brian Kelly: Think about the storied history of Notre Dame football. You know the names of Knute Rockne, Ara Parseghian and Lou Holtz, but did you realize how close Kelly was to having more wins with the Irish than any of them? Now, officially, he's not close. The NCAA vacated Notre Dame's wins in 2012 and 2013, but in the world where we don't pretend those games didn't happen, and that Notre Dame didn't win them, Kelly has 92 wins in South Bend. That's 13 fewer than Rockne's 105, which means there's a good chance Kelly will pass Rockne during the 2021 season. He took over a program that found itself on the brink of becoming a historical relic and has restored the shine to the golden dome. 2019 rank: 7 (+2)"

 

[PraetorianND]

My apologies if this was linked elsewhere....CBS Sports.com has released it's ranking of the Top 25 Power 5 Coaches.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/ranking-the-top-25-power-five-college-football-coaches-entering-the-2020-season/

Checking in at #5....

"Brian Kelly: Think about the storied history of Notre Dame football. You know the names of Knute Rockne, Ara Parseghian and Lou Holtz, but did you realize how close Kelly was to having more wins with the Irish than any of them? Now, officially, he's not close. The NCAA vacated Notre Dame's wins in 2012 and 2013, but in the world where we don't pretend those games didn't happen, and that Notre Dame didn't win them, Kelly has 92 wins in South Bend. That's 13 fewer than Rockne's 105, which means there's a good chance Kelly will pass Rockne during the 2021 season. He took over a program that found itself on the brink of becoming a historical relic and has restored the shine to the golden dome. 2019 rank: 7 (+2)"

Can we talk about how dumb vacating wins is?

 

[GowerND11]

Can we talk about how dumb vacating wins is?

I get it. There needs to be some sort of punishment. Can we talk about how ND had to vacate wins for being a "good guy" and self reporting a problem, and saying "we will take what the NCAA hands down." Meanwhile, UNC has fake classes, Miami has strip clubs on retainer, etc. yet there is nothing...

 

[ThePiombino]

I get it. There needs to be some sort of punishment. Can we talk about how ND had to vacate wins for being a "good guy" and self reporting a problem, and saying "we will take what the NCAA hands down." Meanwhile, UNC has fake classes, Miami has strip clubs on retainer, etc. yet there is nothing...

This is precisely why, at this point, it's no one's fault but our own.

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[BobbyMac]

It's no big deal to me. I don't acknowledge external entity's faux truths.

Tyler Buchner's the #1 player in 2021, ND's the '93 National Champs and they've won 923 games.

Absolutely no italics.

 

[Old Man Mike]

Proud to be all in with our great coach.

Roughest road in college football ... maybe ANY sport. (Speaking of facilitated support, tools, and inbuilt limitations vs expectations.)

 

[Blaise]

Proud to be all in with our great coach.

Roughest road in college football ... maybe ANY sport. (Speaking of facilitated support, tools, and inbuilt limitations vs expectations.)

BIG fan of this thread in the off season opposed to after we lose

 

[Old Man Mike]

And ... as Kelly haters know ... I hang true to him even when we lose.

 

[Sea Turtle]

I get it. There needs to be some sort of punishment. Can we talk about how ND had to vacate wins for being a "good guy" and self reporting a problem, and saying "we will take what the NCAA hands down." Meanwhile, UNC has fake classes, Miami has strip clubs on retainer, etc. yet there is nothing...

That is because ND is stupid and the other two are not.

 

[Circa]

That is because ND is stupid and the other two are not.

I came, to reply to an Italicized comment. WOW! You Ok?

 

[Circa]

I've become curious.
If teams send Illegal substances like steroids through the mail? Is that a Federal offence? Or will the campus police cover that up too?
Question Is for the OSU, Al, Clemson's..... O yeah... LSU

 

[Sea Turtle]

I came, to reply to an Italicized comment. WOW! You Ok?

I'm just still pissed at how ND handled that whole thing. Golson as well.

 

[Crazy Balki]

I'm just still pissed at how ND handled that whole thing. Golson as well.

The only issue I had with how ND initially responded to it in the PC and how they backed down when the NCAA ruled.

But the football program was placed in an unwinnable situation. The university had to go back and void all of those players' test scores, making them academically ineligible after the fact. Most schools wouldn't even bat an eye at this kind of misconduct, punish the player behind closed doors (if at all) and carry on business as usual, but ND holds their players to a higher standard. We don't reward shortcuts, nor do we tolerate cheating. That shit flies at Alabama, Auburn, FSU, etc. But not here. What I hate is the public perception and that all falls squarely on the NCAA. They had a chance to set a precedent. Be firm yet fair with programs who were academically honest and open, and hammer schools who make attempts to sweep major infractions under the rugs.

The NCAA chose to do the exact opposite. It's because of stuff like this why the NCAA's reputation continues to sink to new lows. Personally, I'm more mad at ND for them just accepting the penalty instead of telling the NCAA to go suck a tailpipe.

Would some of the media call ND petty? Sure, but the media will find something to bitch about re: ND anyways. I would've made it a point that the NCAA has failed to uphold the standards it is suppose to represent, and that schools now have zero incentive to come forward with potential violations or infractions. Instead, programs will now keep things hidden and if the NCAA comes sniffing around, get lawyers involved and force them to back off.

As for Golson, I don't know what you're talking about. He cheated, got suspended. Came back.

 

[Sea Turtle]

The only issue I had with how ND initially responded to it in the PC and how they backed down when the NCAA ruled.

But the football program was placed in an unwinnable situation. The university had to go back and void all of those players' test scores, making them academically ineligible after the fact. Most schools wouldn't even bat an eye at this kind of misconduct, punish the player behind closed doors (if at all) and carry on business as usual, but ND holds their players to a higher standard. We don't reward shortcuts, nor do we tolerate cheating. That shit flies at Alabama, Auburn, FSU, etc. But not here. What I hate is the public perception and that all falls squarely on the NCAA. They had a chance to set a precedent. Be firm yet fair with programs who were academically honest and open, and hammer schools who make attempts to sweep major infractions under the rugs.

The NCAA chose to do the exact opposite. It's because of stuff like this why the NCAA's reputation continues to sink to new lows. Personally, I'm more mad at ND for them just accepting the penalty instead of telling the NCAA to go suck a tailpipe.

Would some of the media call ND petty? Sure, but the media will find something to bitch about re: ND anyways. I would've made it a point that the NCAA has failed to uphold the standards it is suppose to represent, and that schools now have zero incentive to come forward with potential violations or infractions. Instead, programs will now keep things hidden and if the NCAA comes sniffing around, get lawyers involved and force them to back off.

As for Golson, I don't know what you're talking about. He cheated, got suspended. Came back.

They could have and should have handled it internally.....like everyone not in a military academy. Higher standard is one thing but these guys aren't going to be leading men into battle on land or sea in the future.

A girl helped them write papers....like in every dorm in the country and instead of flunking the papers or the entire class, they hired three different investigative firms to use computer forensic science, usually reserved for homicide cases, to apprehend these horrible criminals. Just a bit over the top but I guess that's me.

Then they turn over their results to the NCAA smugly like 'look how hard core we are about academics'. The NCAA, with ND doing their work for them, has no choice but to shrug and hand down their punishment.

Then ND has the gall to bitch and complain about it when THEY were the ones who went NUCLEAR over it.

I honestly think ND would turn themselves into the police for stealing a balloon......on free balloon day

 

[Black Irish]

Vacating wins makes no sense. Let's say that a verifiable event did not happen to make a point. Let's see how that works in other parts of life:

"Honey, you don't have to call a divorce lawyer, I vacated that affair I had with my secretary!"

"Listen officer, I know I just blew a 1.5 but how's about we just vacate those 5 double bourbons I had at Hooters and go our separate ways."

 

[NewEnglandGuy]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Notre Dame announces that Brian Kelly has signed a contract extension through the 2024 season.</p>— Pete Sampson (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/1304861948199219203?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 12, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Irish YJ]

https://www.ndinsider.com/football/...xtension — and one,is now signed through 2024.

 

[Irishman77]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Notre Dame announces that Brian Kelly has signed a contract extension through the 2024 season.</p>— Pete Sampson (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/1304861948199219203?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 12, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I’ll be positive and say 2025 is our year lol

 

[Irish YJ]

Just hoping there's enough money left over for a new OL coach.

 

[NDBoiler]

We are slow Longo must go

 

[calvegas04]

Just hoping there's enough money left over for a new OL coach.

He normally makes sure his staff is taken care off during his contract extensions

 

[ulukinatme]

I hear this guy Hiestand is available to coach OL. Just find someone to recruit for him, he'll be happy.

 

[Irish YJ]

I hear this guy Hiestand is available to coach OL. Just find someone to recruit for him, he'll be happy.

A lot of others too.

He normally makes sure his staff is taken care off during his contract extensions

Most coaches do, and really hope Clark got a big bump. As far as the OL, I'll give them a rust game. There was a lot of ugly though. Even our biggest OL supporter did a lot less defending post game than normal. Duke did stack and do a lot of stuff nobody expected, but still. One in particular looked like a rag doll at times instead of a graduate student. I do believe their plan today was overly vanilla by design, and that might be part of it vs some of the looks. Still, I expected a lot more given the hype. The entire O minus KW and Mayer need to step it up big time.

We've got two cup cakes and a bye before we play what looks to be a mediocre FSU and Louisville at home. Plenty of time to work things out before going on the road to Pitt.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Fire Kelly now!

No reason to, I just wanted to be the first to say it this season.

 

[phork]

Extension through 2024, Reesus HC 2025. Book it. No pun intended.

 

[NDdomer2]

Extension through 2024, Reesus HC 2025. Book it. No pun intended.

you forgot book to QB coach in 2023 and OC for Rees in 2025.

 

[dublinirish]

The extension being announced as the offense struggled to find its feet in the 1st half must have sent NDNations board into pure meltdown

 

[irishff1014]

To bad we signed him to an extension. Now we can't fire him.

 

[ACamp1900]

This is the greatest thread ever,.... I love you guys