Brian Kelly Revisited (RIP BOZO)

Brian Kelly Revisited


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ACamp1900

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Agree. Unlike some other threads (like the political ones) this one is full of rational, well thought out discourse.

Lol. It keeps us on our toes. Not sure there is a bigger consistent emotional roller coaster in my life other than this thread.
 

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The extension being announced as the offense struggled to find its feet in the 1st half must have sent NDNations board into pure meltdown

All the NDNATION guys have crept over here... it’s pretty obvious any more. Wins are loses and big wins are Book sucks we should have won by more...
 

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The problem I see is that without Clark Lea we are an 8-4 / 7-5 team. Defense has carried ND for three seasons now. They basically never give up 30 points, and they routinely hold teams below their average.

Now we have an elite OL with a very good RB and this same kick ass defense... yet we score 12. Against a shit team. That’s a coaching and a talent issue. Kelly has had 10 years to get an elite QB and can’t do it.
 

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Sadly all you will hear BK say is how hard it is to win in cfb. Yet the good teams kill the bad teams every time. Then you have ND who makes bottom dwelling teams look like worldbeaters.
 

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Word of advice,... stay off social media. Tennessee, Auburn,... barely any mention. ND is getting savaged like they lost
 

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Sadly all you will hear BK say is how hard it is to win in cfb. Yet the good teams kill the bad teams every time. Then you have ND who makes bottom dwelling teams look like worldbeaters.

List all the good teams please. Would it include LSU, Oklahoma, or Georgia? All have losses to unranked teams in the past two years. Bottom dwellers like Purdue look like world beaters when they're beating you by 29...
 

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Bruh. Please define ‘putting it together’ ,....

I’m pretty optimistic. We are only a couple impact players and an elite QB away from being able to compete with the perinnial power houses. We are pretty much 24-3 the last three years, our physicality and S&C is clearly improving the on field product. I’m pretty happy overall with where the team is compared to the 4-8 season.
 

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I’m pretty optimistic. We are only a couple impact players and an elite QB away from being able to compete with the perinnial power houses. We are pretty much 24-3 the last three years, our physicality and S&C is clearly improving the on field product. I’m pretty happy overall with where the team is compared to the 4-8 season.

I agree, about 70% of the team is where it needs to be. The other 30% drives me insane. We're addressing some of it (WR recruiting is way up last two classes) but I really don't know what the solution is at QB short of Buchner being the truth. We are pretty much the only school that doesn't go hit the transfer market for elite QBs.
 

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Here’s a question,... where did Kelly’s offense from Cinncy ever go?? I remember watching those teams and thinking, ‘goodness, if this system ever got a defense’,.... yet here we are
 

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Sadly all you will hear BK say is how hard it is to win in cfb. Yet the good teams kill the bad teams every time. Then you have ND who makes bottom dwelling teams look like worldbeaters.

At the same time, we haven’t lost to a clearly less talented team in like 3 years.
 
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Here’s a question,... where did Kelly’s offense from Cinncy ever go?? I remember watching those teams and thinking, ‘goodness, if this system ever got a defense’,.... yet here we are

Its the same you see at ND, bananas against crappy teams most of time, bed wetting against the best of the best.
 

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<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Notre Dame has won 35 of its last 40 games. It’s academically tough, geographically isolated, lousy winter weather & generally play a decent schedule. Yet, nobody gets more crap than Brian Kelly. Easy top 5/6 college HC.</p>— Colin Cowherd (@ColinCowherd) <a href="https://twitter.com/ColinCowherd/status/1317580894673260544?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 17, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Notre Dame has won 35 of its last 40 games. It&#146;s academically tough, geographically isolated, lousy winter weather & generally play a decent schedule. Yet, nobody gets more crap than Brian Kelly. Easy top 5/6 college HC.</p>— Colin Cowherd (@ColinCowherd) <a href="https://twitter.com/ColinCowherd/status/1317580894673260544?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 17, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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We can't just pick and choose when we value this ass clown's opinion.

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Dizzyphil

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We can't just pick and choose when we value this ass clown's opinion.

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Don't include 'we' ...


I don't judge Cowherd. I listen to him everyday. Just like I listen and follow Clay Travis.


Plus they know more than some people I know.
 

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If Buchner doesn't start at some point next year I think I'll jump off the Kelly train. Because that means it's a 3 star QB with limited ceiling starting for ND yet again.

He's done more for Notre Dame than anyone since Holtz but if Buchner isn't the guy then I think it's time to move on. He relaid the foundation but I'm not sure he can complete the whole project.
 

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If Buchner doesn't start at some point next year I think I'll jump off the Kelly train. Because that means it's a 3 star QB with limited ceiling starting for ND yet again.

He's done more for Notre Dame than anyone since Holtz but if Buchner isn't the guy then I think it's time to move on. He relaid the foundation but I'm not sure he can complete the whole project.

Are you referring to Book coming back? If he doesn't (which I hope) then it could be Drew Pyne starting:

247 Comp ..... 4* ..... #7 QB-P ..... #113 OA ..... .9509 rating
247 ............... 4* ..... #8 QB-P ..... #228 OA ...... 90
Rivals ............ 4* ..... #5 QB-P ..... #56 OA ........ 5.9
ESPN ............. 4* ..... #7 QB-P ..... #103 OA ...... 83

Not a 3 star with a low ceiling. Also had a lot of offers including Alabama, Auburn, LSU, scUM, among others
 

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Are you referring to Book coming back? If he doesn't (which I hope) then it could be Drew Pyne starting:

247 Comp ..... 4* ..... #7 QB-P ..... #113 OA ..... .9509 rating
247 ............... 4* ..... #8 QB-P ..... #228 OA ...... 90
Rivals ............ 4* ..... #5 QB-P ..... #56 OA ........ 5.9
ESPN ............. 4* ..... #7 QB-P ..... #103 OA ...... 83

Not a 3 star with a low ceiling. Also had a lot of offers including Alabama, Auburn, LSU, scUM, among others

Those rankings are quite outdated. Ended up .9164 composite.
 

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I was talking to my dad after the game about this, but the lack of execution on offense is maddening. Scheme seems to be fine as there are numerous people open during the course of a game. But Book at QB is killing us at times. The pieces are there for this to be a really good team. You have a studly defense and an offense that can run the ball well. But the gaps in execution on offense (especially in the passing game) hamstring us so much. Why wouldn't any team just stack 9 in the box and dare us to pass? If we could actually put all these pieces together during a game, its going to be a fun game. Do I think this happens this season? Maybe for a couple of games. But not against Clemson
 

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I was talking to my dad after the game about this, but the lack of execution on offense is maddening. Scheme seems to be fine as there are numerous people open during the course of a game. But Book at QB is killing us at times. The pieces are there for this to be a really good team. You have a studly defense and an offense that can run the ball well. But the gaps in execution on offense (especially in the passing game) hamstring us so much. Why wouldn't any team just stack 9 in the box and dare us to pass? If we could actually put all these pieces together during a game, its going to be a fun game. Do I think this happens this season? Maybe for a couple of games. But not against Clemson

I'm far from an elite football mind but I'd think 8 guys in the box all night unless Book figures it out. Since we are all confident we will get stomped by Clemson, we are definitely going to miss a 40 yard field goal to win, drop a winning touchdown, or give up a late score to lose. Notre Dame hasn't dropped a Heartbreaker (TM) since the Clemson Hurricane game as far as i can remember.
 

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I'm far from an elite football mind but I'd think 8 guys in the box all night unless Book figures it out. Since we are all confident we will get stomped by Clemson, we are definitely going to miss a 40 yard field goal to win, drop a winning touchdown, or give up a late score to lose. Notre Dame hasn't dropped a Heartbreaker (TM) since the Clemson Hurricane game as far as i can remember.

Best loss I've ever seen. Wettest game I've ever been to, that's for sure.
 
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