Baylor IS in some deep trouble

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Max Olson ‏@max_olson 7m7 minutes ago
Art Briles emphatically denied he was aware of Sam Ukwuachu's violence issues at Boise State, said "there's no truth" to that accusation.


"I talked with Chris Petersen personally," said Briles to reporters on Friday morning. "No mention of anything beyond Sam being depressed, needing to come home."
Peterson, now at Washington,*released a statement of his own on Friday afternoon contradicting Briles. Peterson stated that he let Briles know everything about Ukwuachu.
"After Sam Ukwuachu was dismissed from the Boise State football program and expressed interest in transferring to Baylor, I initiated a call with coach Art Briles," said Peterson in a statement. "In that conversation, I thoroughly apprised Coach Briles of the circumstances surrounding Sam's disciplinary record and dismissal."
 

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Two things........

Briles is probably starting to catch some heat about letting him on the team and never thought Peterson would be brought into this. Man speaks with forked tongue.

Peterson's going on the record so he doesn't catch any heat later on. Nip it in the bud!

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So based on the general trend and timing of things, Baylor will lose some scholarships around 2020. No italics.
 

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Art Briles is worth millions to Baylor, I'd be surprised if anything happened to him (but wouldn't be shocked if he decided to jump ship for the NFL now when before that seemed a remote possibility at best).
 

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Can someone summarize what's going on? Reps will come your way

2 second version....

First...NCND things Baylor has a better program than ND for two reasons. 1 - Their offense is fast and BK talks about a fast offense but doesn't have one and 2 - They went and showed up in the last two bowl games (Cotton / Fiesta). According to some, he may be drunk today.

Baylor, more importantly Briles, could be in hot water for letting a guy transfer in from Boise after he had some assault problems there. Peterson told Briles about it, allegedly and Baylor still admitted him. Guy went on to rape girl at Baylor. Baylor investigated and did not find anything wrong, though the state still ended up charging him later. Even with charges pending, Baylor was, allegedly, ready to play him this year. All for not as he was convicted recently.
 
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Can someone summarize what's going on? Reps will come your way

A player left Boise State and went to Baylor. Coach of Boise State calls Baylor coach and says, "kid has issues". Baylor welcomes him with open arms.

Kid proves to have issues. Baylor coach says he never knew of the issues. Coach of Boise at the time says, "Bullsh!t".

Now Baylor will hopefully be hammered and go back into mediocrity.
 

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Texas is rubbing their hands together at the thought of Baylor returning to a nobody. They're already laughing about the fact A&M returned to their typical midcarder form after their first year in the SEC.
 

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Is there any proof that Peterson told Briles?

To play devil's advocate, doesn't Peterson have an incentive to lie and throw Briles under the bus?
 
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Is there any proof that Peterson told Briles?

To play devil's advocate, doesn't Peterson have an incentive to lie throw Briles under the bus?

This is spot on logically, but I've never heard of coach recruiting a player who was dismissed from another place and not first finding out why. I'm very much so inclined to believe Peterson, as well as the criminal himself who said a long time ago that Baylor "knew everything." I also bet they could come up with phone records or other correspondence that shows the call if pushed on it... but they won't be pushed on it, because it's the truth.
 

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This is spot on logically, but I've never heard of coach recruiting a player who was dismissed from another place and not first finding out why. I'm very much so inclined to believe Peterson, as well as the criminal himself who said a long time ago that Baylor "knew everything." I also bet they could come up with phone records or other correspondence that shows the call if pushed on it... but they won't be pushed on it, because it's the truth.

I guess I just wonder how Briles could be stupid enough to lie about knowing. Peterson has nothing to lose by lying while Briles has everything to lose.
 

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I guess I just wonder how Briles could be stupid enough to lie about knowing. Peterson has nothing to lose by lying while Briles has everything to lose.

I think it was a self-preservation move. He comes off better as ignorant to the issues than having callous disregard for violence against women. I don't believe he ever thought two steps ahead to Peterson correcting what he said, so why not try to paint himself in the best light?

Again, I just don't find it plausible that someone would take a transfer dismissed from another school without having it asked and answered what he did to get dismissed.
 

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I guess I just wonder how Briles could be stupid enough to lie about knowing. Peterson has nothing to lose by lying while Briles has everything to lose.

I think it was a self-preservation move. He comes off better as ignorant to the issues than having callous disregard for violence against women. I don't believe he ever thought two steps ahead to Peterson correcting what he said, so why not try to paint himself in the best light?

Again, I just don't find it plausible that someone would take a transfer dismissed from another school without having it asked and answered what he did to get dismissed.

Worth mentioning that Baylor is private, Baptist and very conservative. So Briles probably felt pressure to distance himself from the situation given the school's values.
 

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Dude ended up getting 6 months in jail. Shocking to me that he got off that light.
 

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A player left Boise State and went to Baylor. Coach of Boise State calls Baylor coach and says, "kid has issues". Baylor welcomes him with open arms.

Kid proves to have issues. Baylor coach says he never knew of the issues. Coach of Boise at the time says, "Bullsh!t".

Now Baylor will hopefully be hammered and go back into mediocrity.

Hammered for what exactly?? I'm clearly missing something here
 

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Though silly and nobody else may find it this way but it cracks me up. In the middle of telling the lie he goes "no no, oh no, Lord no." How F'd up is that.
 

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EDIT: Actually I didn't post it on this site, but yeah the expected equivocation from Briles is here "yeah we talked, but he never said anything bad about him or SURELY I wouldn't have looked the other way... for an All-American..."
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Updated statement from Art Briles . <a href="http://t.co/KDXtw2vaMv">pic.twitter.com/KDXtw2vaMv</a></p>— Ralph D. Russo (@ralphDrussoAP) <a href="https://twitter.com/ralphDrussoAP/status/634862380019793921">August 21, 2015</a></blockquote>
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#Baylor releases dox from Boise showing Ukwuachu was NOT suspended for disciplinary reasons and could return to BSU
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