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[ab2cmiller]

I respect everyones opinions. You are pretty much wrong on everything but I at least respect your right to be wrong.

LOL. Reminds me of the person who insulted someone after starting their diatribe with "With all due respect". Then they follow that up with, "why are you angry, I said with all due respect"

 

[Bishop2b5]

LOL. Reminds me of the person who insulted someone after starting their diatribe with "With all due respect". Then they follow that up with, "why are you angry, I said with all due respect"

Maybe they just thought the amount of respect due to that person was exceptionally small.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Maybe they just thought the amount of respect due to that person was exceptionally small.

Definitely a sliding scale. I just want to help. Haha

 

[Legacy]

I try to keep adjectives out of my posts especially if it is in response to a post or an IE individual. Even a statement with adjectives about those outside our community like "Trump is a silly buffoon" really doesn't further discussion.

 

[ulukinatme]

I'm going to disagree. I think it allows for a bit of cathartic back-and-forth with members of "the other side." There are times that the piss-n-vinegar I come in with is diffused by the fact that the member posting an opposing viewpoint has shown commonality in other areas. You, Bishop, and YJ are great examples of that. I can't stand the politics y'all may have, but I'll be damned if we don't share a love of whisk(e)y, cigars, and/or hot chicks. Shit, even North Dakota is starting to grow on me a little.

The weirdos in here who have no socially-redeemable values, on the other hand... yeah, screw those guys.

I can see that, might be a good release for some people. Personally I try not to venture into the political threads too terribly much only because everyone is pretty entrenched with their opinions on both sides and it just feels like a lot of mud slinging. I admit I can be pretty set in my ways too, but I'm at least open to other opinions.

I grew up in a somewhat rural part of Ohio in the 80s and 90s where there was a very present "redneck" faction of good country boys intermingled with the rest of the suburbs. Admittedly it was a very white population, but you didn't really see racism towards the minorities that were there. The rednecks would fly Confederate flags from their trucks, and there was never any malice towards African Americans. They were all friendly with each other. We were always brought up that the flag symbolized Southern pride, that it had evolved so to speak beyond a symbol of the Civil War. After all, the Stars and Stripes has changed from the Revolutionary War symbol it began as. This was all from a perspective of someone raised in rural Ohio though, a very isolated community where everyone knows everyone...the town's slogan is even "Headquarters of Nice People." After speaking to a poster that has lived in North Carolina and they detailed how overtly the flag is still used as a symbol of the Confederacy and racism there it gave me a new perspective, it changed my mindset. We never knew anything different though, sometimes your bubble is very different from someone else's.

That's the kind of discussion I enjoy though, something that will open your eyes and show you how different things can be in other parts of this country even though we're all American. It really is a melting pot of different cultures. Sometimes neither side is wrong on their positions, there can be a lot of gray area in politics, but other times it just takes a different set of life experiences to change one's thinking.

 

[Irish YJ]

I'm going to disagree. I think it allows for a bit of cathartic back-and-forth with members of "the other side." There are times that the piss-n-vinegar I come in with is diffused by the fact that the member posting an opposing viewpoint has shown commonality in other areas. You, Bishop, and YJ are great examples of that. I can't stand the politics y'all may have, but I'll be damned if we don't share a love of whisk(e)y, cigars, and/or hot chicks. Shit, even North Dakota is starting to grow on me a little.

The weirdos in here who have no socially-redeemable values, on the other hand... yeah, screw those guys.

I'd buy ya a nice bourbon, and share a cig with you any day. F the politics. We don't have to agree to hang. It's not you're fault you believe in the wrong stuff. I've hung with several I disagree with, and do regularly in the real world...

I've taken a Christmas break while traveling from all the political stuff. While I've been tempted to go back, also tempted to stay away lol.

BTW, who go the temp ban?

 

[Old Man Mike]

All of you are fired.

 

[SonofOahu]

LOL. Reminds me of the person who insulted someone after starting their diatribe with "With all due respect". Then they follow that up with, "why are you angry, I said with all due respect"

Or as they say in the south, "Bless him/her..."

 

[SonofOahu]

BTW, who go the temp ban?

Yankee

 

[Bishop2b5]

Or as they say in the south, "Bless him/her..."

Reminds me of the following joke:

Two Southern women are sitting on the porch drinking tea and chatting.

Woman 1: My husband bought me a new Mercedes.
Woman 2: Well, isn't that nice.

Woman 1: My husband bought me this here big ol' diamond ring too!
Woman 2: Well, isn't that nice.

Woman 1: My husband also took me to Paris for our honeymoon.
Woman 2: Well, isn't that nice.

Woman 1: My husband bought me this here big mansion too.
Woman 2: Well, isn't that nice.

Woman 1: What'd your husband do for you?
Woman 2: He sent me to charm school.

Woman 1: Charm school? What'd you learn there?
Woman 2: How to say, 'Well, isn't that nice' instead of 'FUUUUUUCK YOU!'

 

[Old Man Mike]

Great argument for IE going to Charm School (at least in the non-football threads; drunken brawls would still be allowed, even encouraged, there. --- except the Kelly Revisited thread which is really political.)

 

[IrishRazor82]

It's absolutely not far fetched. If reports are true, Nico supposedly accepted the NIL offer a couple weeks ago...yet waited to even commit to tennessee. Why? I would pretty much guarantee it was because he went back to oregon and alabama (and who knows who) to try and get a comparable or better NIL deal from them. I would imagine his responses from other schools were, at best, "let me get back with you" to outright being laughed at and simply told, "no, we won't be doing that for you. Good luck to you in the future, Nico."

This is probably what he did. And curious what ND fans think of this? I have no problem with him doing this if he truly feels comfortable from a football standpoint going to any of the schools he's in talks with. This isn't Nicco's fault at all, he's maximizing his current value without risking his future value. If we don't like it, look at NCAA.

 

[irishog77]

This is probably what he did. And curious what ND fans think of this? I have no problem with him doing this if he truly feels comfortable from a football standpoint going to any of the schools he's in talks with. This isn't Nicco's fault at all, he's maximizing his current value without risking his future value. If we don't like it, look at NCAA.

Of course you don't.

If your goals in life are to always focus on yourself and to do what's best for yourself, damn others or the consequences, then sure, it's a swell approach for him to take.

Not always a great approach in life to take though. Nor is it necessarily a good or smart philosophy when you're part of a team sport.

But you and Nico do you.

 

[IrishRazor82]

Of course you don't.

If your goals in life are to always focus on yourself and to do what's best for yourself, damn others or the consequences, then sure, it's a swell approach for him to take.

Not always a great approach in life to take though. Nor is it necessarily a good or smart philosophy when you're part of a team sport.

But you and Nico do you.

I'm sorry, does he owe it to his hypothetically would-be futute teammates at USC to commit there?

What the hell are you talking about, every recruit in the country is doing what's best for them.

 

[irishog77]

I'm sorry, does he owe it to his hypothetically would-be futute teammates at USC to commit there?

What the hell are you talking about, every recruit in the country is doing what's best for them.

Every recruit in the country isn't negotiating the highest bid, succumbing to it, and basing his decision and picking his school based off that. That was the original point. Not to mention, the most up-front money or guaranteed money is often not the best or smartest decision. People get eaten alive doing this when buying or selling a business, or even negotiating a contract.

Nico being upfront about this to schools "he's in talks with" doesn't somehow make him good or noble either, nor excuse it. If a guy tells his girlfriend he's going to sleep around on her, then does, that merely means he was upfront to her about his intentions and actions. Most on this board understand this, aren't comfortable with it, and don't try to rationalize feeling comfortable about it.

Again though, you and Nico do you.

 

[IrishRazor82]

Every recruit in the country isn't negotiating the highest bid, succumbing to it, and basing his decision and picking his school based off that. That was the original point. Not to mention, the most up-front money or guaranteed money is often not the best or smartest decision. People get eaten alive doing this when buying or selling a business, or even negotiating a contract.

Nico being upfront about this to schools "he's in talks with" doesn't somehow make him good or noble either, nor excuse it. If a guy tells his girlfriend he's going to sleep around on her, then does, that merely means he was upfront to her about his intentions and actions. Most on this board understand this, aren't comfortable with it, and don't try to rationalize feeling comfortable about it.

Again though, you and Nico do you.

You're projecting and guessing. Let's play the tape: 1) Nicco is one of about 15 recruits nationwide who are in this position and if he's not sacrificing his future value and can maximize his current value, he owes it to himself and no one else to maximize that. 2) He's committed nowhere until now 3) You have no idea what his conversations or honesty were with other schools 4) You're parlaying that lazy take into somehow acting like you know me and me and Nicco are "one of the same".

Trash take.

 

[GATTACA!]

Every recruit in the country isn't negotiating the highest bid, succumbing to it, and basing his decision and picking his school based off that. That was the original point. Not to mention, the most up-front money or guaranteed money is often not the best or smartest decision. People get eaten alive doing this when buying or selling a business, or even negotiating a contract.

Nico being upfront about this to schools "he's in talks with" doesn't somehow make him good or noble either, nor excuse it. If a guy tells his girlfriend he's going to sleep around on her, then does, that merely means he was upfront to her about his intentions and actions. Most on this board understand this, aren't comfortable with it, and don't try to rationalize feeling comfortable about it.

Again though, you and Nico do you.

Nico could blow out his knee the first day of spring practice next year and never play another down of football.

He owes it to his family to take life changing money if it's being offered.

 

[irishog77]

You're projecting and guessing. Let's play the tape: 1) Nicco is one of about 15 recruits nationwide who are in this position and if he's not sacrificing his future value and can maximize his current value, he owes it to himself and no one else to maximize that. 2) He's committed nowhere until now 3) You have no idea what his conversations or honesty were with other schools 4) You're parlaying that lazy take into somehow acting like you know me and me and Nicco are "one of the same".

Trash take.

1) He very well may be sacrificing his future value. Also, there isn't an unlimited amount of money for players to get from NIL. He'll be one of 85-100 to split the pie. He just took a huge piece if it. That has a strong chance to be disastrous in the locker room for many reasons.
2) I know.
3) You just said "this is probably what he did." So you agreed with it, until now.
4) Ah, but I do know you. It's not like you haven't been on this board for years, under a different name. Your takes then were similar to your takes now. They didn't improve with your new name.

Now that we've played the tape, let's get back to the original point. That was where I claimed Nico probably tried to get into a bidding war. You agreed. Then claimed you were curious what ND fans think of this. Apparently you're not.

Troll on though. It's the only thing you've been consistent about in all the names you've used on IE.

 

[irishog77]

Nico could blow out his knee the first day of spring practice next year and never play another down of football.

He owes it to his family to take life changing money if it's being offered.

I'm not saying he shouldn't take money. Nor a lot. He's a junior in high school though. Reading between the lines, it's pretty apparent Nico got into a bidding war, with whomever offered the most guaranteed money winning his commitment.

A more likely scenario than him blowing out his knee is that he may never suffer any major injury. And the goal of college is to set you up for your professional career. By all indications, tennessee and heupel aren't the best place for that.

If his goal was to get the most money now, then yes, he clearly succeeded in that. For a myriad of reasons, I think his decision was short-sighted. But again, if the decision was made based on the present and here-and-now, then he made a great decision.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

You're projecting and guessing. Let's play the tape: 1) Nicco is one of about 15 recruits nationwide who are in this position and if he's not sacrificing his future value and can maximize his current value, he owes it to himself and no one else to maximize that. 2) He's committed nowhere until now 3) You have no idea what his conversations or honesty were with other schools 4) You're parlaying that lazy take into somehow acting like you know me and me and Nicco are "one of the same".

This you? You've shown your ass around here often enough that we don't have to "guess" what you'd do in any given situation. Of course you'd bang Clesi Crochet while your wife sits at home, just like you'd take the first seven-figure check someone waved at you regardless of whatever other obligation you had to renege on.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Nico could blow out his knee the first day of spring practice next year and never play another down of football.

He owes it to his family to take life changing money if it's being offered.

This has a lot of overlap with the argument over Hamilton and Williams sitting out the Fiesta Bowl.

I think it's safe to say that: (1) ND isn't going to be competitive for recruits looking for maximum NLI $ up front; and (2) most recruits looking for maximum NLI $ up front probably aren't good cultural fits for us anyway. No reason to get upset over it. We're just not offering a semi-pro model.

 

[317Irish]

1) He very well may be sacrificing his future value. Also, there isn't an unlimited amount of money for players to get from NIL. He'll be one of 85-100 to split the pie. He just took a huge piece if it. That has a strong chance to be disastrous in the locker room for many reasons.
2) I know.
3) You just said "this is probably what he did." So you agreed with it, until now.
4) Ah, but I do know you. It's not like you haven't been on this board for years, under a different name. Your takes then were similar to your takes now. They didn't improve with your new name.

Now that we've played the tape, let's get back to the original point. That was where I claimed Nico probably tried to get into a bidding war. You agreed. Then claimed you were curious what ND fans think of this. Apparently you're not.

Troll on though. It's the only thing you've been consistent about in all the names you've used on IE.

Koon resurrected!!!! I knew it!

 

[IrishLax]

I never thought this is how he would be outed. I was 100% sure it’d be something political.

 

[317Irish]

I never thought this is how he would be outed. I was 100% sure it’d be something political.

Smart money was on a newly started how-to thread…

 

[ab2cmiller]

I swear it was just yesterday that I thought to myself, Razor sure sounds a bit like Koon. True Story.

 

[IrishLion]

Koon?!?!?

I am absolutely bumfuzzled! Bamboozled! Hoodwinked! Run-amok!

 

[Dale]

Bad vibes to be putting on the Moore thread!

 

[IrishRazor82]

1) He very well may be sacrificing his future value. Also, there isn't an unlimited amount of money for players to get from NIL. He'll be one of 85-100 to split the pie. He just took a huge piece if it. That has a strong chance to be disastrous in the locker room for many reasons.
2) I know.
3) You just said "this is probably what he did." So you agreed with it, until now.
4) Ah, but I do know you. It's not like you haven't been on this board for years, under a different name. Your takes then were similar to your takes now. They didn't improve with your new name.

Now that we've played the tape, let's get back to the original point. That was where I claimed Nico probably tried to get into a bidding war. You agreed. Then claimed you were curious what ND fans think of this. Apparently you're not.

Troll on though. It's the only thing you've been consistent about in all the names you've used on IE.

Why is it assumed Tennessee will for some reason be bad for hus futute value and he must be taking the short term value only? He very well could do as good or better at UT than Bama, USC, etc. The amount of variables that go into whether a player, especially a QB succeed is a long list. He could sit behind another 5 star at Bama all while being the real deal but never get to showcase it.

 

[Irish#1]

Like a moth to flames. Lol

 

[GATTACA!]

Why is it assumed Tennessee will for some reason be bad for hus futute value and he must be taking the short term value only? He very well could do as good or better at UT than Bama, USC, etc. The amount of variables that go into whether a player, especially a QB succeed is a long list. He could sit behind another 5 star at Bama all while being the real deal but never get to showcase it.

I'm afraid we can't interact with you anymore until you take a shirtless selfie so we can see if you have a leprechaun on your bicep.