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koonja

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The ignore function is a brilliant feature, and I have always held the opinion that it should be used more widely on the site when certain issues come up again and again.

The problem arises when it goes beyond telling someone "put me on ignore," and it becomes an obvious far-reaching troll job, which is what Pat transformed into. He never answered debates head-on, danced around the ACTUAL issues being discussed in nearly every argument he had, got overly defensive at almost all times, was overly combative at almost all times when he wasn't "defending" his stance, and he started sh*tstorms for the sake of watching sh*tstorms. He would pick one side of the fence early on in a debate for no other reason than to have a "platform" to stand on later.

Ignore doesn't help when the entire site is affected. Or when all the mods would have to follow the "ignore" advice. That's just not possible.

Fair enough, I understand your points . He made me LOL so I'll always support him coming back. Forever is a long time and I'm sure him and many other posters could learn their lesson with an entire season off (or more). If not, you click the button and they're gone.
 
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woolybug25

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Pat wasn't that. Be reasonable.

Are you high? Saying that he was racist is being kind. He's been accused of far worse. Do you actually remember him or just the version you made him out to be? I feel like you are only remembering the occasional funny version of Pat and not the mainstay ahole rubbing everyone the wrong way in every Lep Lounge thread.

I know they would, but a lot of people obviously loved Pat too. Pat was a smart, but had very strong opinions and some people didn't like his approach. I get that, but IMO, you just have to not take it personal (Pat and I's last discussion on here was an argument where I told him he was crazy - he said we shouldn't waste time recruiting guys like Alexander McKenzie.).

Not all on IE are equal. There are certain people on IE that you can and cannot go after (For instance, I'm fair game for insults, but OMM? GTFO). Pat didn't discriminate, he went after whoever he disagreed with, didn't care if they were a mod, a newb, had a billion vbucks or were looking for handouts. Part of the reason he was popular, but also got him in trouble.

People can't simply block posters they don't like if those posters are constantly driving the conversations of every thread. They can still see all of the responses to the blocked poster and the threads are still getting hijacked, regardless of whether or not the poster is blocked. The end result is the same, an unenjoyable experience because of one person's behavior. It sure doesn't seem fair that everyone on the board should ignore/block one poster making all of the threads suck.
 
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koonja

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Are you high? Saying that he was racist is being kind. He's been accused of far worse. Do you actually remember him or just the version you made him out to be? I feel like you are only remembering the occasional funny version of Pat and not the mainstay ahole rubbing everyone the wrong way in every Lep Lounge thread.



People can't simply block posters they don't like if those posters are constantly driving the conversations of every thread. They can still see all of the responses to the blocked poster and the threads are still getting hijacked, regardless of whether or not the poster is blocked. The end result is the same, an unenjoyable experience because of one person's behavior. It sure doesn't seem fair that everyone on the board should ignore/block one poster making all of the threads suck.

Not yet. I do not believe Pat was that. He was over the top and political, but not that. I'd ask you to point out the posts, but that's a ridiculous request and near impossible at this point.

Unenjoyable for YOU. Not for everyone, certainly not for me and others. We enjoyed him as a member. There are posters I do not enjoy. Posters that are offensive and only come on here to bully other members. I don't call for their head because I know they're idiots and so why would they bother me?

Agree to disagree. He's gone so you and yours win.
 
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koonja

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If he has about two pages talking about him, tgen he deserves to be put in.

There's many more than 2 pages. Pat's banning caused more of an uproar than any poster ever, Bambi included.

One poster went as far as to create an awesome banner that was passed out and used as people's signature. It had Pat (Charlie Day) in a blue tuxedo holding a Lacrosse stick (IrishLax banned him) that was on fire with burning buildings in the background. It was EPIC.
 

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Not yet. I do not believe Pat was that. He was over the top and political, but not that. I'd ask you to point out the posts, but that's a ridiculous request and near impossible at this point.

I take solace in the fact that one of his temporary bans was for, in fact, racism.

Unenjoyable for YOU. Not for everyone, certainly not for me and others. We enjoyed him as a member. There are posters I do not enjoy. Posters that are offensive and only come on here to bully other members. I don't call for their head because I know they're idiots and so why would they bother me?

Agree to disagree. He's gone so you and yours win.

I'm not sure where you are going with this, as my response was in reference to your comment about "why can't people just block me" [/read in crybaby voice]. Fact is, it's hard to block every bad poster, because bad posters also tend to post a lot. Driving the conversations in whatever manner they deem. So posters tell them that, they report them, they get them banned. It's a system that works, and just because it doesn't work for you, doesn't change the fact that it does work for the majority.
 

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I'll donate $50 to the site if we let IrishPat and NJNP go at it for one day on here.

There's many more than 2 pages. Pat's banning caused more of an uproar than any poster ever, Bambi included.

One poster went as far as to create an awesome banner that was passed out and used as people's signature. It had Pat (Charlie Day) in a blue tuxedo holding a Lacrosse stick (IrishLax banned him) that was on fire with burning buildings in the background. It was EPIC.

Well that's just ignorant.

You're about the only person who I think seriously brings up the #FreePat idea. Bambi was talked about a long, long time on this site. Only problem is that a lot of the posters who talked about him are no longer with us as well.
 

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i recommend this thread get closed and mods just update the listing as it happens.
 

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Well that's just ignorant.

You're about the only person who I think seriously brings up the #FreePat idea. Bambi was talked about a long, long time on this site. Only problem is that a lot of the posters who talked about him are no longer with us as well.

Truth. That was way more epic than Pat's banning.
 
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koonja

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I take solace in the fact that one of his temporary bans was for, in fact, racism.



I'm not sure where you are going with this, as my response was in reference to your comment about "why can't people just block me" [/read in crybaby voice]. Fact is, it's hard to block every bad poster, because bad posters also tend to post a lot. Driving the conversations in whatever manner they deem. So posters tell them that, they report them, they get them banned. It's a system that works, and just because it doesn't work for you, doesn't change the fact that it does work for the majority.[/QUOTE]

Well that's just ignorant.

You're about the only person who I think seriously brings up the #FreePat idea. Bambi was talked about a long, long time on this site. Only problem is that a lot of the posters who talked about him are no longer with us as well.

Like I said, he's gone so you guys win.

Only it's not. I was around for both NeuteredDomer and Pat's banning. Pat's was bigger and obviously still is.

Want to bet? Put up a no-action, private poll asking who wishes he was here. I double dog dare you.
 
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I was not a mod at the time but I totally get why Pat was booted. I agreed with him on some things and absolutely was revulsed by other things he posted. He was bilgerent and was tough to handle most times though and caused a lot of work for the mods. the running joke on the board is that if Pat got into thread it would devolve very quickly. I unsubscribed to numerous threads after he got going. It was hard to sift through 25 posts of single sentence exclamations in order to catch up on the On- Topic discussion.
 

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Like I said, he's gone so you guys win.

Only it's not. I was around for both NeuteredDomer and Pat's banning. Pat's was bigger and obviously still is.

Want to bet? Put up a private poll asking who wishes he was here. I double dog dare you.

Did you not read Beau's post? Many of the people that were upset at Bambi's ban aren't here anymore, and a ton of people on the board now, weren't here when that happened. What would a poll prove now?

For what it's worth, I was here for both, and Bambi's had a far bigger impact. Really, there were like five or six of you that had "Free Pat" sigs, but there was an entire group of posters that left the site because of Bambi's ban. No one left because of their outrage with Pat's banning.
 

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I was around for both NeuteredDomer and Pat's banning. Pat's was bigger and obviously still is.

Want to bet? Put up a no-action, private poll asking who wishes he was here. I double dog dare you.

Perhaps you missed the part where most of the posters who complained about the banning of neutered are no longer on the site? So yeah, a poll of current members would really be a scientifically sound way of going about it. Bambi's banning was a MUCH bigger deal, and it wasn't even close.
 
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koonja

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Did you not read Beau's post? Many of the people that were upset at Bambi's ban aren't here anymore, and a ton of people on the board now, weren't here when that happened. What would a poll prove now?

For what it's worth, I was here for both, and Bambi's had a far bigger impact. Really, there were like five or six of you that had "Free Pat" sigs, but there was an entire group of posters that left the site because of Bambi's ban. No one left because of their outrage with Pat's banning.

I did read his post. And I was also here for both, and I disagree with you. What posters actually left that aren't already back as themselves or another name? Another ridiculous request so I understand if you ignore it.

1) Pat should be in the banned HOF. 2) Both Bambi/Pat's banning were easily the top 2 most infamous bannings. You cannot debate that, so whether you have them as 1/2, back to the OP, Pat 100% should be in the banned HOF, unless there's only one poster there and that poster is Bambi (which I'd argue, but agree to disagree).
 

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Koon, whether it's Longo, Bryant, or IrishPat...when you grab hold of something you really can't let go, can you? :laugh:
 
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koonja

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Koon, whether it's Longo, Bryant, or IrishPat...when you grab hold of something you really can't let go, can you? :laugh:

There's members offering to paypal the owner of IE money out of their pockets, during the holidays mind you, to let Pat back for AN HOUR. So yeah, Pat not being in the HOF is something I'm not letting go.
 

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There's members offering to paypal the owner of IE money out of their pockets, during the holidays mind you, and so year, Pat not being in the HOF is something I'm not letting go.
Dude Pat IS in the hall of fame.
 

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Koon, whether it's Longo, Bryant, or IrishPat...when you grab hold of something you really can't let go, can you? :laugh:
People don't know how to read The Koon's posts sometimes. A lot of times when he brings up Longo, his tongue is firmly in cheek and he's just tweaking you guys, like an older brother who twists your nipple in a loving fashion.
 

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I did read his post. And I was also here for both, and I disagree with you. What posters actually left that aren't already back as themselves or another name? Another ridiculous request so I understand if you ignore it.

Ok?

1) Pat should be in the banned HOF. 2) Both Bambi/Pat's banning were easily the top 2 most infamous bannings. You cannot debate that, so whether you have them as 1/2, back to the OP, Pat 100% should be in the banned HOF, unless there's only one poster there and that poster is Bambi (which I'd argue, but agree to disagree).

Literally no one is debating this. What point are you actually trying to make? That Pat is in the HoF? Ok... no one denies that. lol
 
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koonja

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People don't know how to read The Koon's posts sometimes. A lot of times when he brings up Longo, his tongue is firmly in cheek and he's just tweaking you guys, like an older brother who twists your nipple in a loving fashion.

That is true and thank you for recognizing that. But don't get it twisted. I do not like the guy. No italics.
 

woolybug25

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I miss my friend! lol.

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People don't know how to read The Koon's posts sometimes. A lot of times when he brings up Longo, his tongue is firmly in cheek and he's just tweaking you guys, like an older brother who twists your nipple in a loving fashion.

True, but he goes back to the well so often that it's bone dry.
 
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