All Things pOSU

[BeauBenken]

Any doubt Courtney is a total freak in the sheets.

No idea what she looks like.

Would bang.

Where the hell did this come from?

 

[Irish YJ]

Where the hell did this come from?

Koon drinking alone tonight again lol.
Working on spank bank deposits for withdrawal later tonight....

 

[GATTACA!]

Jokes aside I'll agree with Green. Whether or not you would deign to grace the domestic abuse victim with your dick is generally not a great discussion to have, compliment meant or no. I'm aware the original post was meant to be a shock joke (or at least I hope it was), but it was a bit over the line for me too. A page ago I was reading about her getting choked out with her daughter in the room.

 

[Greenore]

Be humble

 

[koonja]

I didn't mean to be insensitive and say I'd bang her

Sorry guys - I shouldn't have joked about her when this is a serious issue.

 

[BeauBenken]

I didn't mean to be insensitive and say I'd bang her

Sorry guys - I shouldn't have joked about her when this is a serious issue.

It was in bad taste, but I'm just more wondering where the hell it came from in the first place? Night away from the fiance? lol

 

[ACamp1900]

It was in bad taste, but I'm just more wondering where the hell it came from in the first place? Night away from the fiance? lol

It’s koon......

 

[ulukinatme]

I didn't mean to be insensitive and say I'd bang her

Sorry guys - I shouldn't have joked about her when this is a serious issue.

I thought I was still reading SurlyHorns (Used to be ShaggyBevo.com) when I read that They're a bunch of assholes, but they're funny assholes. I didn't take the comment seriously, but I can understand if some people are uncomfortable with it.

 

[SonofOahu]

So, OSU has lost institutional control, right?

Coaches covering up for abusive spouses. Trainers and coaches abusing students. What a shit-show.

 

[NorthDakota]

It was in bad taste, but I'm just more wondering where the hell it came from in the first place? Night away from the fiance? lol

I think Koon is married now...isn't he?

I got a kick out of it. Bad taste but that's alright.

 

[loomis41973]

Save Urban Meyer.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/save-urban-meyer-online-petition-has-more-than-24000-signatures/ar-BBLww8o?ocid=spartandhp

“Urban Meyer is on the hot seat and can be wrongly fired from Ohio State,’’ reads the petition. “... It is up to us Buckeye Nation to help him not just for him but for THE Ohio State University and the great state of Ohio!’’

 

[Blazers46]

Save Urban Meyer.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/save-urban-meyer-online-petition-has-more-than-24000-signatures/ar-BBLww8o?ocid=spartandhp

“Urban Meyer is on the hot seat and can be wrongly fired from Ohio State,’’ reads the petition. “... It is up to us Buckeye Nation to help him not just for him but for THE Ohio State University and the great state of Ohio!’’

A list of 25k husbands whose wives need to be saved

 

[T-Boone]

I didn't mean to be insensitive and say I'd bang her

Sorry guys - I shouldn't have joked about her when this is a serious issue.

I thought it was fine, but I forgive you any way. As penance you need to go full green body paint to ND stadium 2 Sept.

 

[Irish#1]

OSU released a statement that they expect the investigation to be wrapped up in about two weeks. Any of these folks OSU alum?

With that, you could assume he is going to be gone and they are just working a buyout and how to handle the backlash, OR they know they are keeping him on and trying to come up with the best explanation to cover their butts.


A newly convened, independent working group — formed by the university’s Board of Trustees to direct the investigation involving Urban Meyer — met late last week, appointed a chair, and engaged an investigative firm.

Former Ohio House Speaker Jo Ann Davidson will serve as chair of the working group, which includes former acting U.S. Deputy Attorney General Craig Morford, former U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Ohio Carter Stewart and current university trustees Alex Fischer, Janet Porter and Alex Shumate. The group was formed to direct the work of the investigative team and be available to provide consultation and advice, and to assist with communication to the full board on the matter.

Decisions about actions, based on the findings of the investigation, will be made by the president of the university in consultation with the Board of Trustees.

Former Chair of the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission Mary Jo White will lead the investigative team. White is a senior chair with the national law firm Debevoise & Plimpton and is a former U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York.

“Ohio State is committed to a thorough and complete investigation,” Davidson said. “We look forward to sharing the results of this investigation and any action the university may take.”

The investigation is expected to be completed within 14 days.

 

[BobbyMac]

Here's the lead on the UrbanLiar investigation. Is also a lead on the Les Moonves investigation.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here's the bio of Mary Jo White by her NY law firm. To the best of my knowledge, she has no ties to Ohio or Ohio State. <a href="https://t.co/CZO2kEqwLn">https://t.co/CZO2kEqwLn</a></p>— Bill Rabinowitz (@brdispatch) <a href="https://twitter.com/brdispatch/status/1026298754591207425?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 6, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[IrishLion]

Idk how you say your goal is to have a complete and thorough investigation, but then impose an arbitrary 14-day timeline on your work.

Urban is gonna be back. Regardless of what McMurphy's evidence says about Smith abusing his wife, and whether or not Smith denies it, as long as Urban can prove that he informed his superior, they have no grounds to terminate him legally.

And they sure as hell won't fire him for moral reasons. Wins and money are more important than morality. They'll donate $500k to Domestic Violence charities every year to make it look like the money isn't an issue, but that's a drop in the bucket compared to the revenue Urban creates, and compared to the $38M buyout if they were to fire him without cause.

My favorite thing is that when they bring Urban back, they will say it's because he did his duty, and that it's not his job to operate based on the legal system, and then they'll pass the buck onto his AD or law enforcement. And all the OSU shills will ignore the tiny, simple fact that Urban is allowed to hire and fire whoever he wants.

 

[NDRock]

Any chance he doesn’t cry at the future press conference announcing his firing/return? Hoping for a Jim Baker “I have sinned” moment.

 

[Rack Em]

Any chance he doesn’t cry at the future press conference announcing his firing/return? Hoping for a Jim Baker “I have sinned” moment.

Or a Rich Rodriguez-esque rendition of "You Raise Me Up"

 

[Irish#1]

Idk how you say your goal is to have a complete and thorough investigation, but then impose an arbitrary 14-day timeline on your work.

Urban is gonna be back. Regardless of what McMurphy's evidence says about Smith abusing his wife, and whether or not Smith denies it, as long as Urban can prove that he informed his superior, they have no grounds to terminate him legally.

And they sure as hell won't fire him for moral reasons. Wins and money are more important than morality. They'll donate $500k to Domestic Violence charities every year to make it look like the money isn't an issue, but that's a drop in the bucket compared to the revenue Urban creates, and compared to the $38M buyout if they were to fire him without cause.

My favorite thing is that when they bring Urban back, they will say it's because he did his duty, and that it's not his job to operate based on the legal system, and then they'll pass the buck onto his AD or law enforcement. And all the OSU shills will ignore the tiny, simple fact that Urban is allowed to hire and fire whoever he wants.

Just because they stated they would like to complete this in two weeks, doesn't mean they are bound to the two weeks. I would think the OSU pres spoke to her, gave her what he knew and asked her how long she thought it would take to complete this, thus the 14 days. You set a deadline and work towards it. You get close to the two weeks and if you need more time you tell the pres how much more time you need.

Sure they do. They can terminate him for lying. It doesn't matter if he did report it or didn't, he lied. As much as Meyer has meant to the coffers of OSU, how much more has it meant than Tressel, Cooper, Bruce or Hays? OSU has always had a huge following.

 

[Irish#1]

Here's the lead on the UrbanLiar investigation. Is also a lead on the Les Moonves investigation.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here's the bio of Mary Jo White by her NY law firm. To the best of my knowledge, she has no ties to Ohio or Ohio State. <a href="https://t.co/CZO2kEqwLn">https://t.co/CZO2kEqwLn</a></p>— Bill Rabinowitz (@brdispatch) <a href="https://twitter.com/brdispatch/status/1026298754591207425?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 6, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This tells me OSU is taking this seriously. Not sure Meyer will be back regardless.

 

[dublinirish]

the two week time frame is so fishy. They could easily have the time run out on that and just say the investigation was inconclusive and urbie carries on. It's all about not harming the football team really.

 

[Ndaccountant]

I think they know most of what happened here. The real interesting part is if gene Smith never reported it to title IX office and if it's TRUE urban and gene gave him an extension since 2015

 

[IrishLion]

Just because they stated they would like to complete this in two weeks, doesn't mean they are bound to the two weeks. I would think the OSU pres spoke to her, gave her what he knew and asked her how long she thought it would take to complete this, thus the 14 days. You set a deadline and work towards it. You get close to the two weeks and if you need more time you tell the pres how much more time you need.

Sure they do. They can terminate him for lying. It doesn't matter if he did report it or didn't, he lied. As much as Meyer has meant to the coffers of OSU, how much more has it meant than Tressel, Cooper, Bruce or Hays? OSU has always had a huge following.

He lied to the press about what he knew and when he knew it, but that doesn't mean he lied to the school.

He said in his release that he informed his superiors back when the incident occurred.

That small fact is either going to save his job, or it's going to spell doom for him and his AD. And maybe I'm too skeptical, but I don't see OSU cleaning house at this point. If they were going to go that route, they wouldn't have needed a special panel and investigation to tell them to do so.

 

[Irish#1]

He lied to the press about what he knew and when he knew it, but that doesn't mean he lied to the school.

He said in his release that he informed his superiors back when the incident occurred.

That small fact is either going to save his job, or it's going to spell doom for him and his AD. And maybe I'm too skeptical, but I don't see OSU cleaning house at this point. If they were going to go that route, they wouldn't have needed a special panel and investigation to tell them to do so.

No, but he's representing the school when he's lying to the press. That's a major no no.

He knew Smith's past and still hired him at OSU, then kept him on after another incident? Fireable offense? I don't know, but add that to lying and it's not good.

He told Dakich he did it by the book which would infer he told the AD, but he's had a history of shady behaviour, so his statement and his text to Dakich could be attempts to get out in front of this to minimize the damage and allow him to stay.

 

[ab2cmiller]

No, but he's representing the school when he's lying to the press. That's a major no no.

He knew Smith's past and still hired him at OSU, then kept him on after another incident? Fireable offense? I don't know, but add that to lying and it's not good.

He told Dakich he did it by the book which would infer he told the AD, but he's had a history of shady behaviour, so his statement and his text to Dakich could be attempts to get out in front of this to minimize the damage and allow him to stay.

Or to ensure he gets a huge payout because they can't fire him for cause related to not reporting under Title IX.

 

[ab2cmiller]

There is almost no chance that Zach Smith chose to do that interview with ESPN unprompted. It came out the same afternoon as Urban's statement. What a coincidence.

 

[TheSunIsRising]

Agreed that it is unfathomable for him to get fired for lying to the press


I am hopeful on the investigation, that she (White) and the investigation team will actually do some due diligence. IF he truly did follow ALL protocols, then there should be a paper trail - and not one like with Lance Armstrong where there was a backdated prescription for a corticosteroid. I really don't believe that Mary Jo White would risk her reputation to whitewash the investigation, IF there is nothing documenting that protocols were actually followed.

Another way of phrasing this: I see there being more risk for Urban with an outside investigation, then there would have been if it was all done internally. If this was all internal, some unnamed individual in the Title IX office would be thrown under the bus, and leave with a wonderful payout

 

[Irish#1]

Or to ensure he gets a huge payout because they can't fire him for cause related to not reporting under Title IX.

Agreed that it is unfathomable for him to get fired for lying to the press


I am hopeful on the investigation, that she (White) and the investigation team will actually do some due diligence. IF he truly did follow ALL protocols, then there should be a paper trail - and not one like with Lance Armstrong where there was a backdated prescription for a corticosteroid. I really don't believe that Mary Jo White would risk her reputation to whitewash the investigation, IF there is nothing documenting that protocols were actually followed.

Another way of phrasing this: I see there being more risk for Urban with an outside investigation, then there would have been if it was all done internally. If this was all internal, some unnamed individual in the Title IX office would be thrown under the bus, and leave with a wonderful payout

Given she (Smith) is not an employee of OSU, I think there is still a gray area when it comes to Title IX and if it needed to be reported. I've not seen anything posted from someone with detailed knowledge of Title IX comment.

I agree, there is no way White would ruin her reputation. I applaud OSU for using outside sources to dig into this. They do have a history of terminating coaches for bad conduct. Not sure why they would change positions now for those that think nothing will be done. Even if Meyer did report it, why did he keep the coach on staff and why didn't he follow up when no one else did anything?

 

[ab2cmiller]

Given she (Smith) is not an employee of OSU, I think there is still a gray area when it comes to Title IX and if it needed to be reported. I've not seen anything posted from someone with detailed knowledge of Title IX comment.

I agree, there is no way White would ruin her reputation. I applaud OSU for using outside sources to dig into this. They do have a history of terminating coaches for bad conduct. Not sure why they would change positions now for those that think nothing will be done. Even if Meyer did report it, why did he keep the coach on staff and why didn't he follow up when no one else did anything?

Well besides the fact that they would be losing one of the top coaches in the country, there are 38 million reasons that would make them think twice about firing him.

 

[TheSunIsRising]

Given she (Smith) is not an employee of OSU, I think there is still a gray area when it comes to Title IX and if it needed to be reported. I've not seen anything posted from someone with detailed knowledge of Title IX comment.

It would be a difficult spin for OSU to say that Title IX does not apply to Zac Smith

https://hr.osu.edu/wp-content/uploads/policy115-faq-general.pdf
(see Point 2, bullet 2)

https://titleix.osu.edu/sidebar-resources/what-is-title-ix/definitions.html
(see Definition of Domestic Violence)


and btw, their fans who are defending Meyer by saying he reported the incident to Gene Smith: that is NOT the protocol that he should have followed, so there SHOULD be a paper trail through the Title IX office
https://titleix.osu.edu/Buckeyes ACT Faculty Staff.pdf
(see point 3 on reporting)