No way that's accurate. I could buy that the staff told Carr he could pick either '23 or '24 after they had made the decision to move on from Moore, but not that they would lose Moore just to give Carr the option of reclassifying.
That's certainly one way to look at it.
The fact is ND and Rees ARE NOT recruiting QBs right now. No new offers or developments. THEY ARE awaiting Carr’s reclassification determination. Therefore QB recruiting is waiting on “Carr’s Option.”
Do you have any inside info to confirm this bat-shit insane interpretation of events? Or is this just based on assuming the worst about Rees (as it seems to be?)
I hope we get a 3-4 star project. Big arm, big work ethic if that’s the route we go. Rees needs to develop someone with high upside, but raw. I’d prefer we look away from the Books and Brendan Clark’s. While they’re good solid kids, they don’t seem to have, besides GA in the last decade, to win NCs or gone in the first round. Try and develop a Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes. Tall Dual threat with a cannon.
So a Tommy Rees with a better arm...
Sure. That works. Or a tall dual that has a big arm. I was thinking tall, 6’3 to 6’6 type that can move. with a good head and work ethic. Athletic. Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes were rated low and fit that. At least there’s be a lot of potential NFL upside. But what do I know. Just a dummy on a message board. Of course I’d rather have Dante and CJ.
Yes. Why do you think Sayin isn’t on ND’s radar? And why is Moore gone? Top targets in BOTH classes have moved on. ND’s future rests only with the Carr’s. Rees said Carr was the #1 recruit in his mind in both classes - which is crazy talk.
So what you're saying is that Tommy Rees personally rejected commitments from Jackson Arnold and Chris Vizzina? And let CJ text Dante that he wasn't wanted?
That's clearly the most reasonable set of inferences one can draw here. I mean... Irishdrunk can't be the only one here that remembers the Tulsa game, right?
Yep. Dante and family thought they had a great product. Took it to the Shark Tank and got a bite. Then kept putting off acceptance hoping another shark would bite. In the meantime shark #1 grew tired of staring at the shiny bait and got themselves a meal with CJ.
There's a lot of well-connected posters here, so unless you're privy to intel that literally no one else has, I'm not inclined to believe your version of events. There are several other scenarios still in play that would see Rees come out smelling like roses. Until they're foreclosed, it just looks like you've got an axe to grind against Tommy.
Yes as in yes you do have inside sources that can confirm this sequence of events you outline?
This is where I’m at too. I’m not sure the entire true story ever comes out, but this is the most plausible based on what actual real reporting has been all along. Im sure ND feels burned, but shouldn’t go public as it’s a bad look to drag a kid for “changing his mind”
As someone with no inside information, I agree — this seems like the most reasonable conclusion to draw. DM waited too long, so Tommy took the bird in hand. Simple.
Why is this "crazy talk"
Right. Even if there's an unwritten rule now that 5-star QBs don't want to come in immediately before or after one another, so that Rees had to pick one among Moore, Carr and Sayin: (1) I've got no reason to prefer Sayin over Carr; and (2) Moore has given us plenty of reasons to prefer Carr over him.
Why would Oregon let one of its incoming freshman do that?
to get insider info on their future big ten rival...duh
It is odd that Dante has not committed to Oregon yet or even set a date. Something is keeping him from even setting a date. I wouldn’t call that an abundance of confidence in OR’s direction.
I almost wonder if Mike Frank has heard some smoke or something
