The best team in the history of that state wasnt even from that university.People and especially kids forget how average Oregon athletics were prior to the Chip Kelly era. They are "new money" in every sense of the phrase.
Joey Harrington would like a wordPeople and especially kids forget how average Oregon athletics were prior to the Chip Kelly era. They are "new money" in every sense of the phrase.
That team sure kicked the shit out of us in the Fiesta Bowl.The best team in the history of that state wasnt even from that university.
2000 Oregon State easily takes that prize.
Shocker.The ISD intel on Dante Moore was illuminating. Basically implied (especially with follow up comments from Christian) that NIL was the main thing that drove the wedge between him and ND. And that in deciding between Oregon and LSU, it was the worse depth chart at Oregon that was the deciding factor.
I agree with others that it will be interesting to see what effect that PAC12 imploding has but with these guys that just want PT + $$ we’ve already seen Louisville have massive recruiting success and I’d doubt Dante would be dissuaded.
Shocker.
This is true. But with current transfer rules, if he didn’t like his experience, he’d still have the option to transfer to a better situation and recoup some of that with subsequent NIL deals.Why would a booster give a recruit millions of dollars if the kid could just transfer to another school the next year and keep it all? Drafting a contract like that would be legal malpractice. If these NIL deals are real, then they're going to limit the recruit's options for transfer--implicitly if not explicitly.
Agreed. The timing of his whole recruitment screams NIL.The ISD intel on Dante Moore was illuminating. Basically implied (especially with follow up comments from Christian) that NIL was the main thing that drove the wedge between him and ND. And that in deciding between Oregon and LSU, it was the worse depth chart at Oregon that was the deciding factor.
I agree with others that it will be interesting to see what effect that PAC12 imploding has but with these guys that just want PT + $$ we’ve already seen Louisville have massive recruiting success and I’d doubt Dante would be dissuaded.
If it’s true that Arnold would’ve committed to ND had they not gone all in in Dante then that’s (yet another) bad look for Tommy. To a certain extent, it’s also a bad look for MF. I think Dante is better but I don’t think the gap is so big that you’d wait out Dante.Jackson Arnold beat him up at Elite 11.
To me, Arnold has the size, accuracy/arm, competitive nature that he’ll likely end up a future NFL starter. Dante comes off as an over hyped bust, shying competition, indecisive, and seeking easy cash. Just my unbiased opinion.If it’s true that Arnold would’ve committed to ND had they not gone all in in Dante then that’s (yet another) bad look for Tommy. To a certain extent, it’s also a bad look for MF. I think Dante is better but I don’t think the gap is so big that you’d wait out Dante.
My guess is we’ll flip Avery Johnson some point down the line. He’s fine, but I just don’t see a whole lot of upside with him as a passer. He would’ve been the perfect type of QB to roll the dice on in the 2022 class.
It’s not true.If it’s true that Arnold would’ve committed to ND had they not gone all in in Dante then that’s (yet another) bad look for Tommy.
The vaunted EMU passing attackI wouldn’t be surprised if Moore is back in Michigan after a year or two in Eugene.
This can’t be right. I was told in the Keon Keeley thread that ND is paying too dollar for athletes and it would be stupid for people to look elsewhere…The ISD intel on Dante Moore was illuminating. Basically implied (especially with follow up comments from Christian) that NIL was the main thing that drove the wedge between him and ND. And that in deciding between Oregon and LSU, it was the worse depth chart at Oregon that was the deciding factor.
I agree with others that it will be interesting to see what effect that PAC12 imploding has but with these guys that just want PT + $$ we’ve already seen Louisville have massive recruiting success and I’d doubt Dante would be dissuaded.
Yea I dont understand where people keep coming up with alternate narrative that somehow Arnold didnt have the green light or he went elsewhere because we turned him away or stopped pursuing him for Dante.ND was after Arnold hard and simply got beat by Oklahoma.
Not true. Arnold always has the green light to commit to ND. He visited OU, knew it was where he wanted to be, and committed to them.If it’s true that Arnold would’ve committed to ND had they not gone all in in Dante then that’s (yet another) bad look for Tommy. To a certain extent, it’s also a bad look for MF. I think Dante is better but I don’t think the gap is so big that you’d wait out Dante.
My guess is we’ll flip Avery Johnson some point down the line. He’s fine, but I just don’t see a whole lot of upside with him as a passer. He would’ve been the perfect type of QB to roll the dice on in the 2022 class.
Bc the rumor is we went all in on Dante. I don’t think anyone besides he and the staff knows the truth about Arnold. To me, it seems like ND would be very hard to pass up for a kid like him, but who knows.Yea I dont understand where people keep coming up with alternate narrative that somehow Arnold didnt have the green light or he went elsewhere because we turned him away or stopped pursuing him for Dante.
Bc the rumor is we went all in on Dante. I don’t think anyone besides he and the staff knows the truth about Arnold. To me, it seems like ND would be very hard to pass up for a kid like him, but who knows.
If he said it, I probably believe it, but sometimes people say things to save face. If ND went all in on Moore, it’s be easy to say, well, ND was never my #1 anyway. ND was his #1 until the Venables hire he says. ND was also far more interested in Dante and that’s no debate. But I don’t live in fairy land where I think every kid likes ND. So, you’re probably right.I trust what Jackson Arnold himself says on that matter over anything. It really isn’t something that needs to be left to imagination IMO.
But Arnold did say ND was his #1 at one time haha. That until Malachi Nelson flipped to USC and OU opened up. Arnold has no reason to save face and he outlined a pretty clear timeline in his decision in the article and video done with Wiltfong.If he said it, I believe it, but sometimes people say things to save face. If ND went all in on Moore, it’s be easy to say, well, ND was never my #1 anyway. But I don’t live in fairy land where I think every kid likes ND. So, you’re probably right.
Arnold committed to OU before ND went “all in” for Dante. We were basically down to Dante and Viz when that happened. Arnold had his choice and chose OU. Sometimes with all the rumors and speculation I feel like some here generate their own storylines for talking points.Bc the rumor is we went all in on Dante. I don’t think anyone besides he and the staff knows the truth about Arnold. To me, it seems like ND would be very hard to pass up for a kid like him, but who knows.