2019 @UGA Post Game Thread

[irishtrain]

The different slants by the media on this game has been all over the place-sec people question Georgia/national media compliment The Irish/espn has its take/southerners say Georgia played lousy/ hilarious how the venom comes out/ would love to see the guys run the table and get another shot with just one more back to help run the ball. Very proud of the job done in the face of adversity-and one last thing-Finebaum is a @#$%%^*&)(*#@^. You fill in the blank.

 

[T-Boone]

I think the program is building towards a championship in 2022 or 2023. With the talent on both sides we are bringing in I think we'll finally be able to win these type of games, even win some going away. We have to keep Lea and either Long keeps improving or we find a different home run hire.

I don't see any reason why next season wouldn't be the target provided Kmet comes back.
and Jurkovic is ready to take over from Book.
The receivers will be very nice: Kmet, Tremble, Young, Armstrong, Lenzy, Austin, Keys, Johnson.
The line backers and DTs will be very experienced and strong. Not sure about the pass rush but Ogendeji, Justin Ademilola, Ovie, Nana, Botelho should be fine.
Hamilton.
Tyree.

 

[T-Boone]

... is Young supposed to be very good? Guy hasn't done much to date.

He was getting similar pre season hype to Kmet, Claypool, Keys and Tremble. But also similar hype to Finke.

 

[IrishFanJMercy]

I agree next year is the year but games against Wisconsin and Clemson will be tough. Honestly next year the offense should be way better only major loss being Claypool. WR will be deep the entire OL should return, all TE’s should be back, and all running backs.

Defense- linebackers should be better but lose Bilal, DL should take a step back but should reload, biggest concern is DB

 

[T-Boone]

I agree next year is the year but games against Wisconsin and Clemson will be tough. Honestly next year the offense should be way better only major loss being Claypool. WR will be deep the entire OL should return, all TE’s should be back, and all running backs.

Defense- linebackers should be better but lose Bilal, DL should take a step back but should reload, biggest concern is DB

Gilman, Crawford might come back.
If so: Gilman, Hamilton, Ajavon, Griffiths, Bracy, Crawford, Rutherford. Looks good to me.

 

[Irishize]

He was getting similar pre season hype to Kmet, Claypool, Keys and Tremble. But also similar hype to Finke.

Nice to see this is the narrative instead of how GA just had a bad game against us. Good sign that recent winning by the program is starting to earn the respect of the national pundits. We need to keep building on this.

Exactly. What do SEC/UGA fans expect when they crow all week how ND is irrelevant, overrated & will be annihilated by UGA yet ND ends up taking the Dawgs to the brink of defeat and covers easily? Yes, the irish still lost & there are no moral victories but they can’t have it both ways.

 

[ickythump1225]

Post-Georgia Rakes report:

I saw he shouted out Little Italy Pizzeria. Can confirm that place is DOPE. I lived in that part of Georgia for years and they have second location in Gainesville and it was some of the best pizza I've ever had!

 

[ickythump1225]

My takeaway was the complete opposite. I thought Smart made the correct decision to kick the field goal and force ND to score two TDs in the last six minutes to win the game. That just wasn't very likely given the pace of the game, and it turns out he was right. If they get stuffed, ND has momentum and were in position to tie the game with a field goal.

I will pretty much always air on the side of making the ballsy call and going for it. I rarely fault a coach for playing aggressive. I mean that being said you have to be smart. The Browns HC should be fired for calling a run on 4th and 9.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

My takeaway was the complete opposite. I thought Smart made the correct decision to kick the field goal and force ND to score two TDs in the last six minutes to win the game. That just wasn't very likely given the pace of the game, and it turns out he was right. If they get stuffed, ND has momentum and were in position to tie the game with a field goal.

I agree...those people are idiots. Even Gary Danielson stated it was the correct decision.

Me neither lol... I would love a crack at the best non-Clemson ACC team though or a Group of 5 team like Boise/UCF. Those would be fun matchups. In general, I'm sick of how ND very rarely gets an opportunity to play PAC12/Big 12/Big Ten team in bowl season.

Notre Dame is playing the best non-Clemson ACC team this upcoming weekend lol. I would take a matchup with Texas in a NY6 bowl. Or a rematch with UGA.

Also doesn’t ND have ACC bowl tie-ins? so they would take the place of an ACC team which means they couldn’t play an ACC team?

I realize we’re in an era of Superpowers and Everyone Else. But when was the last time even three P5 teams went undefeated, let alone four? Upsets happen. Every damn year.

That said, we’ll need a lot of upsets b/c we aren’t getting in over even a one-loss conference champ, or SEC runner-up, if our best win is... Virginia? Michigan? USC?

If we go 11-1, is there any chance we land in the Rose Bowl? Would love to see us play, say, Wisconsin or Washington out there.

Last year 3 power 5 teams went undefeated lol.






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[IrishinSyria]

Notre Dame's strength of schedule is not good enough to get in over a comparable 1 loss SEC non-champ.

Bottom line - a lot of weird stuff can happen, but it seems unlikely that:
-Ohio State or Wisconsin doesn't emerge from the Big Ten with one or fewer losses.
-Oklahoma or Texas doesn't emerge from the Big 12 with one or fewer losses.
-Bama or Georgia or LSU doesn't emerge from the SEC with one or fewer losses.
-Clemson doesn't go undefeated.

So how does ND get in?

Regardless, focusing on the playoffs as the end-all-be-all at this point is, IMO, really stupid. And I hope the team doesn't take that mindset either. ND hasn't won a NY6 bowl in forever... at 10+ wins they have a very good chance of either:
-Playing in the Orange Bowl against ACC team #2.
-Playing in the Cotton Bowl against the best Group of 5 team or SEC #3 (most likely, judging by current rankings of Bama/Georgia/LSU/Auburn it seems likely that one of them will finish the year in the top 10)

Control what you control, and as fans there is no point even talking playoffs until we have clear scenarios circa week 10.

Agree with all of this except for the last part. As fans we have no control over anything and talking playoffs is exactly what we should be doing.

 

[T-Boone]

Notre Dame is playing the best non-Clemson ACC team this upcoming weekend lol. I would take a matchup with Texas in a NY6 bowl. Or a rematch with UGA.

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That would be an interesting match up with the neutral venue possibly leading to the closest we have had to a home game...

 

[Sherm Sticky]

2019 @UGA Post Game Thread

Started watching the game a second time and I still think the personal foul on Liam on the first drive was weak as all hell. As someone mentioned in the game day thread it was similar to the late block Taylor Decker has on Jaylon Smith. Except Decker’s block was more viscous and later than Liam’s. Not to mention Jaylon was trying to standup when Decker hit him. That was a weak ass call that could have prevented a scoring drive and could have changed the outcome of the game.

 

[T-Boone]

Yep, game is up on the tube so I am about to quit work for the arvo and have a look for the first time. You will all get the privilege of my take away's shortly.

 

[Calabrese's People]

2022-2023: Ohio State=Big10 Champ. Clemson= ACC Champ. Urban Meyers USC & Stanford=PAC12 Champ.

Regular Season.

Everything has been geared up for these years. These are the 'put up or shut up' years.

 

[stlnd01]

Last year 3 power 5 teams went undefeated lol.

Ha. You're right. My bad. I've tried to block out parts of the end of last season.

But my point is largely the same. Going undefeated is really hard. In the four seasons BEFORE last year, combined, only three teams went undefeated. (Bama in '16, Clemson in '15, FSU in '14). And you have to go back to 2010 to find a season when more than one P5 team went into the bowl games undefeated.

So the likelihood of having four undefeateds, or even two, is pretty low, no matter how dominant they all look right now. OSU will lose to some lesser team, as they do. The SEC teams will all ding each other. Oklahoma probably has to beat Texas twice. Clemson's the only one I'd bet on making it through, because they play no one.

That said, we'll still need a ton of help to make the playoffs, even if we win them all. Let's just enjoy the ride.

 

[ThePiombino]

You're probably playing the second best team in the ACC in Virginia. And there's nothing to gain against a G5 school. Win and you should have... lose and the sky is falling.

Your CFB privilege is showing right here. Tommy, we haven't won a top tier bowl game in 20+ years (25 years ago against A&M to be precise). We'll take a win over whoever the hell we can at this point just to change the GD narrative!

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[Some Irish Bloke]

I am OK with missing the playoffs this year but to say there is no path for ND is bordering on moronic. UGA goes undefeated and ND dials up their offensive firepower as the season progresses with lots of highlight reel stuff from Armstrong and Young.

Everyone talks about the "best" teams making the playoffs - a much improved ND who dominated much of the ROAD loss to SEC champ and undefeated UGA absolutely screams for a neutral site rematch.

Are people so blind to think the $$$$ of 13-0 UGA vs 11-1 ND - #2 vs #3 rematch would not be a complete lock for the CFP?

Not going to happen b/c I don't think we have the offensive chops or attitude to hand 50 on UM, USC, UVA etc - we will make some of those too close and fuel doubters. And Bama will win the SEC but that is A path to the CFP for ND.

Much prefer whatever the top SEC team not to make the playoff - we smoke them in the top NY6 game. I will be surprised if we are playing someone other than LSU, Bama or UGA in a NY6 game. Two ways that doesn't happen is all three are in CFP or we are. Florida is not good and I have not seen Auburn - LSU, UGA and Bama are top 5 material this year IMO. OK, OSU and ND rounding out the class of Clemson wannabes and viable CFP contenders.

This is going to sound a lot more testy than I really mean it to, but don't call anyone who doubts we have a path to the CFP "borderline morons" then lay out a path where UGA goes undefeated against UF, LSU, Auburn, and TA&M, then likely Bama for the SEC Championship, ignoring the fact that two SEC schools likely get in along with B1G and Big 12 likely having a 12-1 champ minimum. They aren't going to take 11-1 ND for the second year in a row and leave out 3 conferences with a one loss conference champ after we lost our biggest challenge, IMO.

EDIT: I misread that. I thought you said UGA and Bama ARENT top five teams. my B.

I don't see any reason why next season wouldn't be the target provided Kmet comes back.
and Jurkovic is ready to take over from Book.

I keep reading around here that people think Book is inevitably gone after this season, but I really haven't seen or heard anything about him for sure bolting for the draft. On top of that (and I love Book, for the record) he has been far from crisp this season. I wouldn't be shocked if he stays to build draft stock, unless he doesn't want a future at the next level because this years' QB class is LOADED. Keep in mind a very solid chunk of his yardage against UNM was inflated by the shovel passes that are essentially running plays, and a 5 yard pass to the flats that McKinley went ape shi* on.

Gilman, Crawford might come back.
If so: Gilman, Hamilton, Ajavon, Griffiths, Bracy, Crawford, Rutherford. Looks good to me.

Crawford already said that he doesn't want to play a 6th season and he is done with football after this year.

And if Gilman stays, I'd be shocked and elated. He was graded by PFF as one of, if not the, best safeties in CFB last year and he is making plays again this year. Hope he does, but that's a lot of money to turn down. I wonder how his game will be perceived by teams at the next level because he can be burned in coverage once in a while, but his nose for the ball and capability to make disruptive plays is incredible.

 

[InKellyWeTrust]

This is going to sound a lot more testy than I really mean it to, but don't call anyone who doubts we have a path to the CFP "borderline morons" then lay out a path where UGA goes undefeated against UF, LSU, Auburn, and TA&M, then likely Bama for the SEC Championship, ignoring the fact that two SEC schools likely get in along with B1G and Big 12 likely having a 12-1 champ minimum. They aren't going to take 11-1 ND for the second year in a row and leave out 3 conferences with a one loss conference champ after we lost our biggest challenge, IMO.

And I'm just going to pretend I didn't read that you don't think Bama is a top 4 team.

I think the whole thing requires three 2+ loss conference champions, an undefeated SEC champion (thus knocking off all the others in the process), and all other SEC teams with 2+ losses. Bonus points if the undefeated SEC champ is Georgia (it wont be). I think chances for an 11-1 ND team to make the playoffs is incredibly small. Do you all remember when there was talk last year about an 11-2 Georgia team getting in over 12-0 ND?

 

[RDU Irish]

I am A-OK with finishing #5 and taking on the best non-playoff team. Two snubbed teams fighting to prove we belong. Our game would then proceed to double the ratings and average ticket price of the two semi-finals. We win and steal the post season spotlight.

#1 Clemson and #2 Bama fans won't show for round one - they are spoiled and save their coin for the championship. Whoever is opposing Clemson and Bama will be bigger underdogs than we were vs UGA and won't show for the ritual slaughter. A couple of 50-14 type of games have the world tuned out by halftime.

 

[InKellyWeTrust]

Book is not, and will never be, an NFL level QB imo. Hes a good college QB and we will all love him for it but to be 6 ft tall with a weak arm (relatively speaking) requires elite athleticism which book doesn't have.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

I am A-OK with finishing #5 and taking on the best non-playoff team. Two snubbed teams fighting to prove we belong. Our game would then proceed to double the ratings and average ticket price of the two semi-finals. We win and steal the post season spotlight.

Agreed 100%. There is still a ton to play for and I don't think it's playoff or bust. Until we get that Elite QB, (maybe it's Phil, maybe it's Buchner in a few years) we have to play perfect football against the elites. We are on the cusp of becoming explosive though, IMO, with depth across the board.

That being said, getting that NY6 (legacy BCS Bowls) monkey off our back would be a HUGE accomplishment.

Not to mention there weren't many on here who were projecting playoff anyways. We still want it as fans, but in the likely chance it doesn't happen at this point, there is a lot to cheer for here. Go Irish.

 

[AllTimeIrish]

If Book comes back, I still think ND should start Jurkovic and make him the backup next year. Book is not going to lead the team to a championship and I don't want to see us waste a year of Jurkovic.

 

[calvegas04]

If Book comes back, I still think ND should start Jurkovic and make him the backup next year. Book is not going to lead the team to a championship and I don't want to see us waste a year of Jurkovic.

PJ would need to really step his game up compared to what we saw in his one series against NM

 

[RDU Irish]

This is going to sound a lot more testy than I really mean it to, but don't call anyone who doubts we have a path to the CFP "borderline morons" then lay out a path where UGA goes undefeated against UF, LSU, Auburn, and TA&M, then likely Bama for the SEC Championship, ignoring the fact that two SEC schools likely get in along with B1G and Big 12 likely having a 12-1 champ minimum. They aren't going to take 11-1 ND for the second year in a row and leave out 3 conferences with a one loss conference champ after we lost our biggest challenge, IMO.

And I'm just going to pretend I didn't read that you don't think Bama is a top 4 team.



I keep reading around here that people think Book is inevitably gone after this season, but I really haven't seen or heard anything about him for sure bolting for the draft. On top of that (and I love Book, for the record) he has been far from crisp this season. I wouldn't be shocked if he stays to build draft stock, unless he doesn't want a future at the next level because this years' QB class is LOADED. Keep in mind a very solid chunk of his yardage against UNM was inflated by the shovel passes that are essentially running plays, and a 5 yard pass to the flats that McKinley went ape shi* on.



Crawford already said that he doesn't want to play a 6th season and he is done with football after this year.

And if Gilman stays, I'd be shocked and elated. He was graded by PFF as one of, if not the, best safeties in CFB last year and he is making plays again this year. Hope he does, but that's a lot of money to turn down. I wonder how his game will be perceived by teams at the next level because he can be burned in coverage once in a while, but his nose for the ball and capability to make disruptive plays is incredible.

Possible - not probable. Not a fan of superlatives. If we gave #2 UGA their best game ON THE ROAD and we show a second and third gear on offense later in the season - wouldn't we show we are one of the top 4 teams in the country by comparison? Plus why would the CFP pass up the absolute best $$$ match up to bring in another SEC team?

Say - Texas wins Big 12 with two losses. Ohio State wins B1g(ot) but pulls another Purdue type loss, Pac12, lol. At that point it is almost HARD to put any of these three conference champs in the CFP - still room for Bama at #4. Clemson/Bama and UGA/ND first round would be the dream matchups for ratings.

I haven't seen Auburn but Florida is the second best team in their state after UCF. They are the biggest pretender in the Top 10 - even when Michigan was in there. LSU, UGA and Bama are the real deal IMO. Rest of the conference, from what I have seen, is grossly overrated. I mean Tennessee lost to Georgia State and Arkansas lost to San Jose State? That is Indiana/Kansas level of pathetic. Their middle/bottom is as bad as any P5 conference.

 

[NorthDakota]

The only way a 1 loss Alabama SEC runner up doesnt make it to the CFP is it they get ran out of the building.

Heck, they didnt even have to win their division a couple years ago to get in

 

[RDU Irish]

The only way a 1 loss Alabama SEC runner up doesnt make it to the CFP is it they get ran out of the building.

Heck, they didnt even have to win their division a couple years ago to get in

I think the non-division winner is the back door to playoffs. Losing head to head in SEC Championship - neutral site, last game of the season is harder to justify IMO. LSU losing a close one @ Bama to finish 11-1 would have a pretty strong argument over the UGA/Bama SEC championship game loser.

 

[ThePiombino]

PJ would need to really step his game up compared to what we saw in his one series against NM

PJ doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell at starting next year if Book comes back. And that has nothing to do with PJ and everything to do with Kelly's track record with returning veterans.

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[zelezo vlk]

If Book comes back, I still think ND should start Jurkovic and make him the backup next year. Book is not going to lead the team to a championship and I don't want to see us waste a year of Jurkovic.

Well then Book wouldn't come back. He'd grad transfer somewhere. Hell, maybe Mike Leach takes him

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

Well then Book wouldn't come back. He'd grad transfer somewhere. Hell, maybe Mike Leach takes him

Or Lincoln Riley and he wins the Heisman. No Italics.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

PJ doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell at starting next year if Book comes back. And that has nothing to do with PJ and everything to do with Kelly's track record with returning veterans.

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Kelly's track record with QBs is benching them for younger players.

Crist ---> Rees
Rees ---> Golson
Golson ---> Zaire
Zaire ---> Kizer (and then pulling Kizer for Zaire)
Wimbush ---> Book