Concussions/NFL

[irishfan]

Couldn't find a good thread to add this to, and I don't think we have a concussion-specific thread yet. It's obviously a story that grows every single year, and figured we should start a thread since the movie is out in a couple days and there is now this conflicting story below:

NFL pulls out of funding Boston University head trauma study over concerns about researcher

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">ESPN story is not accurate. NFL did not pull any funding. NIH makes its own decisions.</p>— Brian McCarthy (@NFLprguy) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLprguy/status/679311040149135360">December 22, 2015</a></blockquote>
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ESPN avoids going head-to-head with the NFL at all costs, so this is very interesting. Both organizations are scummy IMO, but I don't believe a word the NFL has to say about just about anything....especially anything related to head trauma.

 

[irishfan]

Why the NFL, which has faced long-standing questions about its involvement in the science of concussions, would fund a project headed by McKee -- and not one led by Stern -- was not clear.

From 2003 to 2009, the NFL published its own research denying that football players get brain damage; much of that research was later discredited. But since then, the NFL has poured tens of millions of dollars into concussion research, allowing the league to maintain a powerful role on an issue that directly threatens its future.

Some neuroscientists believe the league uses its money and influence to reward researchers who focus primarily on issues such as safety, equipment and proper tackling.

"Up until now they have controlled every dollar that they have spent on this issue," said Eric Nauman, a professor of mechanical and biomedical engineering at Purdue University. Research -- published without the NFL's support -- by Nauman and his colleague, Thomas Talavage, a professor of electrical and computer engineering and of biomedical engineering at Purdue, has shown that repetitive head trauma from football leads to dramatic changes in brain chemistry.

"There was no way they were going to just give that money to the NIH and say, 'Do whatever you want,'" Nauman said.

NFL pulls out of funding Boston University head trauma study over concerns about researcher

 

[wizards8507]

Why the hell does the NFL have to fund brain research? That's like EA funding a study that says video games make you dumber.

 

[IrishLax]

Why the hell does the NFL have to fund brain research? That's like EA funding a study that says video games make you dumber.

Wasn't it part of their settlement of that massive concussion lawsuit? Or am I remembering that?

 

[irishfan]

Why the hell does the NFL have to fund brain research? That's like EA funding a study that says video games make you dumber.

They already funded phony research in the past. They seem like they want to fund whatever research won't make the league look too bad. The fact they pledged to fund this research (Goodell talked about working with Boston University last month) and now are reneging does not make the league look very good IMO. I think they know this research is going to just reveal more of what the league doesn't want to be public knowledge.

 

[irishfan]

Wasn't it part of their settlement of that massive concussion lawsuit? Or am I remembering that?

I don't believe so. I think it was the monetary payout, an agreement to fund safety classes for youth football (their heads-up tackling program I think), and then to fund neurological exams for retired players....which don't really do much to combat CTE since you need to be dead to have your brain fully examined. Somehow the NFL made out like bandits in that settlement.

 

[phgreek]

I could only guess why the NFL funds things that can result in safety improvements...and maybe drags its feet on identification and treatment of CTE in living players.

I think the NIH is fine...I'd rather the NFL fund it all, but if not, the identification and treatment of CTE has broader implications than football...where safety within the game is the specific domain of the NFL.

 

[palinurus]

The truth about Will Smith’s Concussion and Bennet Omalu.

 

[dublinirish]

A.J. Tarpley Retires: Latest Details, Comments and Reaction | Bleacher Report

Retiring at 23 after 4 concussions suffered in his career

 

[phork]

I've told my kids, no matter what sports they are playing in, one concussion is one too many.

So far they have had a separated shoulder, 2 broken arms, plethora of minor bumps and bruises etc etc. Not one injury caused by football.

 

[dublinirish]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Some lenders are offering former NFL players loans with 40% interest? When those players can't even think straight? <a href="https://t.co/Lqh290IFW6">https://t.co/Lqh290IFW6</a></p>— Juliet Macur (@JulietMacur) <a href="https://twitter.com/JulietMacur/status/729696120721518592">May 9, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[Irish#1]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Some lenders are offering former NFL players loans with 40% interest? When those players can't even think straight? <a href="https://t.co/Lqh290IFW6">https://t.co/Lqh290IFW6</a></p>— Juliet Macur (@JulietMacur) <a href="https://twitter.com/JulietMacur/status/729696120721518592">May 9, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Must not be a loan in its purest sense? Don't most states have laws capping the max interest rate a company can charge?

 

[NDdomer2]

Must not be a loan in its purest sense? Don't most states have laws capping the max interest rate a company can charge?

They are cash advances based on former players and their eventually concussion pay outs from league.

 

[GoIrish41]

They are cash advances based on former players and their eventually concussion pay outs from league.

Sounds like an advance on income tax returns by H&R Block and the like. When the return comes in, the company keeps a percentage.

 

[NDdomer2]

Sounds like an advance on income tax returns by H&R Block and the like. When the return comes in, the company keeps a percentage.

"Check into Cash" store at the strip mall.

Show proof of future income, here's your loan with ridiculous interest rates. I don't necessarily see them as poaching on these guys because of their possible mental conditions.

Just loan sharks after people with guaranteed future income and they are offering to provide it NOW instead of LATER. At a price of course.

 

[dublinirish]

Must not be a loan in its purest sense? Don't most states have laws capping the max interest rate a company can charge?

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the whole industry is terrible corrupt and immoral

 

[Irish#1]

"Check into Cash" store at the strip mall.

Show proof of future income, here's your loan with ridiculous interest rates. I don't necessarily see them as poaching on these guys because of their possible mental conditions.

Just loan sharks after people with guaranteed future income and they are offering to provide it NOW instead of LATER. At a price of course.

In Indiana the cash advance companies are capped on the amount of interest they can charge. It's still high, but I doubt it's near 40%.

They may call it an advance against earnings, but my guess is the States Attorney General would argue it was a "wolf in sheep's clothing" if the matter was ever taken to court.

 

[Irish Insanity]

In Indiana the cash advance companies are capped on the amount of interest they can charge. It's still high, but I doubt it's near 40%.

They may call it an advance against earnings, but my guess is the States Attorney General would argue it was a "wolf in sheep's clothing" if the matter was ever taken to court.

Pretty sure her in Michigan it's a few hundred % for cash advance. It's like barrow $500 and pay back $580, the next week. I do believe that now they're actually linked so you can't have one from more than 2 different places at a time.

 

[NDdomer2]

In Indiana the cash advance companies are capped on the amount of interest they can charge. It's still high, but I doubt it's near 40%.

They may call it an advance against earnings, but my guess is the States Attorney General would argue it was a "wolf in sheep's clothing" if the matter was ever taken to court.

These establishments have been around for quite sometime. I would imagine the industry has seen it's share of suits .

Check into cash (first one I could think of) has a link that allows u to look up their rates and terms by state. For Indiana: https://checkintocash.com/payday-loan-information-by-state/

That's a 382% interest rate they show.

 

[dublinirish]

In Indiana the cash advance companies are capped on the amount of interest they can charge. It's still high, but I doubt it's near 40%.

They may call it an advance against earnings, but my guess is the States Attorney General would argue it was a "wolf in sheep's clothing" if the matter was ever taken to court.

Payday lending is legal in 27 states, with 9 others allowing some form of short term storefront lending with restrictions. The remaining 14 and the District of Columbia forbid the practice (per wiki)

It should be banned in all states.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Payday lending is legal in 27 states, with 9 others allowing some form of short term storefront lending with restrictions. The remaining 14 and the District of Columbia forbid the practice (per wiki)

It should be banned in all states.

Heck, a major sports team plays in Predatory Lending Arena.

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[GowerND11]

I always enjoyed reading the disclaimers for the payday lenders based off of Reservations. Their interest rates would always be astronomical, something like 150%!

 

[dublinirish]

I always enjoyed reading the disclaimers for the payday lenders based off of Reservations. Their interest rates would always be astronomical, something like 150%!

some of them are 3000 percent

 

[woolybug25]

Payday lending is legal in 27 states, with 9 others allowing some form of short term storefront lending with restrictions. The remaining 14 and the District of Columbia forbid the practice (per wiki)

It should be banned in all states.

Can you explain why it should be banned?

If someone doesn't have the credit to get a credit card, then why should it be illegal for them to willingly arrange a time value of money transaction? They need money now and are willing to use collateral and proof of future earnings in order to get it today. In return, they willingly agree to pay a nominal fee in order to get that money.

People constantly want to blame the system for people's poor economic choices. It's not the payday lenders fault that their business exists.

 

[dublinirish]

Recovered from four-month concussion, Tyler Varga is back with the Colts | ProFootballTalk

Varga claims that a Colts doctor prescribed Amantadine, a drug developed to treat Parkinson’s disease.

“You should definitely take it,” the Colts doctor (whom Varga declined to name) told Varga.

Varga said he then reached out to several doctors he knows from Yale. “They got back to me within five minutes. And all of them were like, ‘Don’t take that,'” Varga said, explaining that he was concerned about the potential side effects.

“The worst case, they told me, were some psychotic reactions like schizophrenia,” Varga said. “And you just can’t stop taking it. You up the dosage until you’re symptom-free. That’s my understanding of it. It sounded pretty scary to me.”

So Varga told the Colts doctor that Varga wouldn’t be taking the medication. And 45 minutes later Varga learned he was being placed on injured reserve.

 

[dublinirish]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A congressional report says NFL tried to affect concussion research for its own purposes: <a href="https://t.co/SFiWXEFUHT">https://t.co/SFiWXEFUHT</a><a href="https://twitter.com/markfwespn">@markfwespn</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/SteveFainaru">@SteveFainaru</a></p>— Outside The Lines (@OTLonESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/OTLonESPN/status/734746557820633088">May 23, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Quelle Surprize

 

[ND NYC]

some of them are 3000 percent

payday lenders are nothing but "legal shilocks" if you ask me.
mob guys would get 20 yrs for charging a lot less.

 

[Legacy]

CTE HAS NOW BEEN DIAGNOSED IN FORMER FOOTBALL PLAYERS FROM OVER 100 COLLEGE FOOTBALL PROGRAMS

WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 19, 2016
(Boston) – The Concussion Legacy Foundation announced today that players from over 100 college football programs have now been diagnosed with Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy (CTE), a degenerative brain disease that evidence indicates is caused by brain trauma. The data is from the VA-BU-CLF Brain Bank, a collaboration between the Department of Veterans Affairs, Boston University, and the Concussion Legacy Foundation.

Every conference within the college football Power 5 conferences (Atlantic Coast Conference (ACC), Big Ten, Big 12, Pac 12 and Southeastern Conference (SEC)) has at least one of its schools represented among the 15 college football programs with three or more confirmed cases of CTE. The 15 programs which have three or more confirmed cases have combined for 64 national championships.

Thus far 91 percent of football players (138 out of 152) studied at the VA-BU-CLF Brain Bank who played in college have been diagnosed with CTE. Almost two-thirds of that group went on to play professional football. College football participation was compiled from public records and interviews with family members.

 

[Oberon]

Can Technology Make Football Safer? - The New Yorker

Long article, mostly focused on St. Thomas Aquinas.

Opening mentions Cornelius Bennett's famous hit on ND's Beuerlein. Bennett's son plays at STA.

Early in the game, with the score tied, Bennett blitzed Notre Dame’s quarterback, Steve Beuerlein. “I was like a speeding train, and Beuerlein just happened to be standing on the railroad track,” Bennett told me recently.

Bennett, who weighed two hundred and thirty-five pounds, drove his shoulder into Beuerlein’s chest and heard what sounded like a balloon being punctured—“basically, the air going out of him.” Beuerlein landed on his back. He stood up, wobbly and dazed. “I saw mouths moving, but I heard no voices,” he later said. He had a concussion. After Bennett’s “vicious, high-speed direct slam,” as the Times put it, Alabama seized the momentum and won, 28–10.

 

[Legacy]

Legendary athlete Bo Jackson on concussions: 'I would have never played football' (Business Insider)

"If I knew back then what I know now, I would have never played football," Jackson said. "Never. I wish I had known about all of those head injuries, but no one knew that. And the people that did know that, they wouldn't tell anybody."

Jackson said he would never let his kids play football.

"The game has gotten so violent, so rough. We're so much more educated on this CTE stuff, there's no way I would ever allow my kids to play football today," he said, referring to chronic traumatic encephalopathy. "Even though I love the sport, I'd smack them in the mouth if they said they wanted to play football. I'd tell them, 'Play baseball, basketball, soccer, golf, just anything but football.'"