'20 VA APB Chris Tyree (Notre Dame Signee)

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Watch his highlights from the recent camps. They're doing LB-RB drills and guys can't even get a hand on him.

He has plenty of shake/wiggle but he doesn't really need it in high school. He's so fast he just hits any opening and presses the gas.

I honestly think he'll be used just like Theo and like we hope Jafar is used this fall. Just most of these guys can't touch Tyree's 55 time.

I agree with this take, but I'd go further. He does not need wiggle at all in high school. One of the reasons he doesn't look even faster is because he breaks away even when guys are taking the right angle and everything is collapsing on him. He breaks open normal plays. And you are right about the camp films, they suggest that there is more to come.

His game film is kind of like watching some one like QN or Stephon Tuitt in high school. You may see glimpses of other great traits, but their strength was so completely dominant the other stuff was masked.

Personally, in this offense, I would rather have break-away speed with slightly-below average RB wiggle (Josh Adams), than excellent wiggle and slightly-below average speed (Riddick).

We always project a player's best moments backwards onto his whole career, but Theo was not an impact RB until his senior year. Like Jonas Gray, most of his early runs (I know he became a WR for a year) were "he was this close" kind of runs that just didn't go very far. As a senior Theo came up big in big situations, and his WR hands were excellent, but I never thought of him as a game changer. Josh was a real handful as soon as he stepped on the field as a freshman, despite the constant criticisms. ND's line kind of chips away until it opens a big gap, and the idea is to have someone who can exploit it.
 
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There was and he was high on ND then. I’m sure LT only helps more.

From the time line of everything, we were in his top group with Denson still here but OU was perceived to be the leader. It stayed that way for a bit after LT came on but has changed over the last few weeks. Don't know how much of that has to do with LT or if something happened at OU to move us to the top.
 

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Per Loy, ND is evidently so confident on this that they turned down two RBs who wanted to commit.
 

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Rather bizarrely, the Virginia Tech guy put in a CB for OU. Either he's a prophet or he's smoking something.
 

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If ND doesn’t land him after saying no to two guys already someone should be fired. I’m just not a big fan of putting all your eggs into one basket hopefully we land him tho
 
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Why because I’m voicing my opinion? I’m pretty sure everyone on here has complained about recruiting in the past where we turned down guys and scrambled last minute to fill spots with 2 and 3 star guys
 

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Why because I’m voicing my opinion? I’m pretty sure everyone on here has complained about recruiting in the past where we turned down guys and scrambled last minute to fill spots with 2 and 3 star guys

It’s because you have the emotional constitution of a child. Hence, calling for heads to roll after one derelict 247 writer put in a CB for OU.
 

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7 of the last 8 picks are for ND. The 1 OU pick is from a guy who is 3 out of 7 for 2020 prospects.
 

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Wasn't Tirek Murphy the RB that ND wanted to land in this class along with Tyree??

I like ND's chances in landing Tyree.
 

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It is weird that guy switched from ND to OU, instead of just having out in an initial pick for OU. Hopefully his poor accuracy continues.

Def not ideal to have to go back to a kid u turned down and say, oh we were just kidding, still in?
 

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It is weird that guy switched from ND to OU, instead of just having out in an initial pick for OU. Hopefully his poor accuracy continues.

Def not ideal to have to go back to a kid u turned down and say, oh we were just kidding, still in?

Yeah that would be a bad look all the way around. Lose the 5 star and then have to settle for a lower ranked player who we turned down and now have to grovel
 

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It is weird that guy switched from ND to OU, instead of just having out in an initial pick for OU. Hopefully his poor accuracy continues.

Def not ideal to have to go back to a kid u turned down and say, oh we were just kidding, still in?

I'm betting the guy is just playing the long-game, and being the contrarian so that he'll look smart if something happens down the road and Tyree flips from ND to OU.
 

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Wasn't Tirek Murphy the RB that ND wanted to land in this class along with Tyree??

I like ND's chances in landing Tyree.

I like ND’s chances with Tyree, too, but it’s a long way to Signing Day. Either way, I wish we hadn’t said no to Murphy (if he’s one of those two, as it appears). He wanted ND, by all accounts, looks like a grown-ass RB at age 18 and brings some thump that would complement Tyree nicely. Also just a smidge nervous about back to back classes with just one real running back. Puts a lot of eggs in the Williams and Tyree baskets.
 

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Also just a smidge nervous about back to back classes with just one real running back. Puts a lot of eggs in the Williams and Tyree baskets.

If something happens they will just convert a WR to RB.
 

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If something happens they will just convert a WR to RB.

Oh I know. And that’s worked fairly well with Prosise and Jafar. But there’s something to be said for having natural born running backs.
 

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If Jafar has a great season similar to Josh Adams does he step up to next level?
He does not have that much production so even if he has the great year we are hoping he might not get draft.
This is relevant to the Tyree thread just in terms of depth.
 

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If Jafar has a great season similar to Josh Adams does he step up to next level?
He does not have that much production so even if he has the great year we are hoping he might not get draft.
This is relevant to the Tyree thread just in terms of depth.

RBs can have such a short shelf life it’s hard to begrudge them jumping early. That said, Jafar would need a hell of a year to get drafted high enough to be worth it. I’d think he comes back for 2020.
 

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RBs can have such a short shelf life it’s hard to begrudge them jumping early. That said, Jafar would need a hell of a year to get drafted high enough to be worth it. I’d think he comes back for 2020.

Almost a guarantee. He's still learning the position, should put two good years together and jump. And if he has a good enough year to jump then we should have a helluva offense this fall.
 

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Some of these questions were brought up regarding whether a 2nd RB is needed and here is what Tim and Tim said at 247.

- Though they expect a big year from him, those around the program would be very surprised if Jafar left after this season.
- They were quite pleased with the progress the young RB’s made this Spring, and (outside of Tyree’s speed) they don’t see a further need at the position.
 
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