We just had a heisman candidate running back until the last couple weeks of the season and now we’re looking for Tony Jones Jr. and Dexter Williams to do it again. I understand that you need to string a few big seasons in a row to get some results on the trail but I also think the guys doing the recruiting need to do a little better.
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We just had a heisman candidate running back until the last couple weeks of the season and now we’re looking for Tony Jones Jr. and Dexter Williams to do it again. I understand that you need to string a few big seasons in a row to get some results on the trail but I also think the guys doing the recruiting need to do a little better.
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That said the better you recruit the better you recruit. Seems there has been an uptick in Dline and O line recruits I'm excited about last years DB haul this will spill over.....
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No I’m not saying they need to be Heismam candidates, but they need to have productive seasons. That happens and Denson recruits his ass off and we land Henning next year and bam the stars align.
I’m on board with that!
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I agree 100%. He was a great play maker for us in that 2012 run. He was a big time crutch for Golson and he bailed Tommy out in OT against Stanford that year with that outstanding over the shoulder catch on 3rd and long to put us in a position to score and go ahead leading to that goal line stand.
His icing TD against Oklahoma and that crazy 4th and 1, when he appeared to be stuffed against BYU before breaking free from the pile of bodies, also stand out.
I will take all of the Theo Riddicks.
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BusterBluth still thinks Cierre Wood was better than Theo Riddick.
Hindsight and all - not joking.
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As a RB only, he was. Surprisingly to me, stats say as an offensive player he was too. As a member of your team, take Riddick every time.
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Cierre started relatively slow, became a total beast as a Jr., and then digressed a little.
Theo started really slow (flashing that quickness), switched to WR, and then became a work horse.
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Yeah Cierre was phenomenal, he just had problems between the shoulders. I was so bummed when he declared for the '13 draft. Keeping him another year would've done wonders
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Kuehnja trying to make Buster's claim seem silly and outlandish.
But actually, Kuenhja is the silly and outlandish one.
But actually, Kuenhja is the silly and outlandish one.
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I wish we used Theo as a RB earlier, same with Prosise. Both of them proved to be very adept at the position.
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I'll take Theo Riddick over and over, every time before Cierre Wood if we could re-recruit them both. Runs harder, cuts better, and runs through people for an extra yard, every time, and also a serious receiving threat. Durable, reliable.
Another dynamic post from you, btw. Really showing your depth.
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Theo started as a RB, and looked dynamic in the few carries he got in '09. I remember debating with a friend early in the year that he should've been taking 3 or 4 of Armando Allen's carries in each game.
I think the flip-flop from WR back to RB under BK was actually the best thing for him, though. He doesn't become quite the same dynamic player he was in '12 if he doesn't play WR in '10 and '11, IMO. There were some catches he made in '12 that I don't know if he makes without two years of primarily playing the ball in the air.
If we could re-recruit them both, I'd take them both again, every time. They were extremely complimentary to each other.
Cierre could do things on the stretch and zone runs that Theo didn't do quite as well, whereas Theo was much better at getting downhill and then making insane cuts through traffic.
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It has also greatly benefited his pro career. He has over twice the amount of rec. yards as he does rushing yards in the NFL. 14 rec Td's to just 5 rushing. His last contract extension was because of just that. It's worked out incredibly well for him.
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Theo also wasn't a pothead.
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Theo just didn't get caught
So, fingers crossed, today should be the day that Notre Dame gets their first offensive skill player in the 2019 class. Some posters had some negative things to say about his game; all of that is fine, most, if not all, high school players aren't complete players yet.
I watched his tape one more time and here is why I think he can be a very successful running back in South Bend:
-His offer list is pretty impressive. Other than Notre Dame, he's been offered by Michigan, MSU, Stanford, Wisconsin, Iowa, and Nebraska. Other than Michigan and Nebraska, the other schools almost always have a really good starting running back. If those schools think he can play winning football, then so should we.
-Some have complained about his size. On his tape, he might be 5'10" but he plays and runs like he's 6'3". He never goes down on first or second contact, he is consistently running through arm tackles, and he high points the football like a tall receiver. Also, I kinda like that he's 5'10"-5'11" because that'll save his knees and once he hooks up with Balis, he is going to have a strong ass lower half. Watching a tall Josh Adams take shot after shot below the waist was tough sometimes.
-His receiving skills are way above average. Like I said above, he high points the ball like a true receiver and he turns a screen pass or slant into big gains consistently. Is that because he has speed? Nope, his speed is average. It is because he has incredible vision. Whether he got the ball out of the backfield or from a pass, it is almost he knows how the field will unfold before he gets there.
-His running style will compliment the physical o-linemen that we have been getting. People complain about his size, but somehow they don't see that he consistently runs people over. Another thing that I like about his game is that he doesn't dance in the backfield, waiting for something to open up. He is very North-South with his initial run, then he'll go East-West if he has to so he can more yards in the secondary. Some of you might laugh, but some of his game reminds me a little bit of LeSean McCoy.
Is this kid going to be a multi year starter and picked in the first couple rounds in the NFL Draft? Who knows. But with the combination of his offer list and tape, I think the staff would be foolish to pass on him.
I watched his tape one more time and here is why I think he can be a very successful running back in South Bend:
-His offer list is pretty impressive. Other than Notre Dame, he's been offered by Michigan, MSU, Stanford, Wisconsin, Iowa, and Nebraska. Other than Michigan and Nebraska, the other schools almost always have a really good starting running back. If those schools think he can play winning football, then so should we.
-Some have complained about his size. On his tape, he might be 5'10" but he plays and runs like he's 6'3". He never goes down on first or second contact, he is consistently running through arm tackles, and he high points the football like a tall receiver. Also, I kinda like that he's 5'10"-5'11" because that'll save his knees and once he hooks up with Balis, he is going to have a strong ass lower half. Watching a tall Josh Adams take shot after shot below the waist was tough sometimes.
-His receiving skills are way above average. Like I said above, he high points the ball like a true receiver and he turns a screen pass or slant into big gains consistently. Is that because he has speed? Nope, his speed is average. It is because he has incredible vision. Whether he got the ball out of the backfield or from a pass, it is almost he knows how the field will unfold before he gets there.
-His running style will compliment the physical o-linemen that we have been getting. People complain about his size, but somehow they don't see that he consistently runs people over. Another thing that I like about his game is that he doesn't dance in the backfield, waiting for something to open up. He is very North-South with his initial run, then he'll go East-West if he has to so he can more yards in the secondary. Some of you might laugh, but some of his game reminds me a little bit of LeSean McCoy.
Is this kid going to be a multi year starter and picked in the first couple rounds in the NFL Draft? Who knows. But with the combination of his offer list and tape, I think the staff would be foolish to pass on him.
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Yeah, Theo smoked a ton of weed.
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Great post! Thank you for the information. Let's get this kid on board!
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Never hurts.
If I’m crossing them for the next five hours it’ll start to hurt eventually.
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IRISH. Done.
https://www.facebook.com/vianneygriffins/videos/2540699565955644/
Big pickup! He looks like a player.
https://www.facebook.com/vianneygriffins/videos/2540699565955644/
Big pickup! He looks like a player.