'18 SC QB Sam Hartman (Notre Dame Transfer)

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[Crazy Balki]

I think the WR corp is the position that is best placed to take a massive step forward. There is talent, but it's been hampered by less than stellar QB play for years.

Then you add a guy like Sam Hartman who knows how to get the ball to his receivers. That's going to pay major dividends for the young talent at receiver. I'd expect a guy like Colzie or Merriweather to suddenly materialize into a major receiving threat.

That's what a high level QB does for your offense.

 

[stlnd01]

I think the WR corp is the position that is best placed to take a massive step forward. There is talent, but it's been hampered by less than stellar QB play for years.

Then you add a guy like Sam Hartman who knows how to get the ball to his receivers. That's going to pay major dividends for the young talent at receiver. I'd expect a guy like Colzie or Merriweather to suddenly materialize into a major receiving threat.

That's what a high level QB does for your offense.

Yep. Bunch of guys with a year or two under their belt, but also something to prove. A QB who can deliver them the ball in all sorts of ways, and a running game that any defense will have to respect. I think our offense could be quite good next year.

 

[BoredIrish]

Opening 2023 Heisman Odds Favor Caleb Williams; Arch Manning Listed as Huge Longshot

Thinking of dropping $100 at +1800 odds.

 

[Irish4life]

 

[rtrn2glory]

Opening 2023 Heisman Odds Favor Caleb Williams; Arch Manning Listed as Huge Longshot

Thinking of dropping $100 at +1800 odds.

I thought about a $10 Sam for Heisman and Natty for ND parlay. Prolly good payout for that.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

Opening 2023 Heisman Odds Favor Caleb Williams; Arch Manning Listed as Huge Longshot

Thinking of dropping $100 at +1800 odds.

I thought you implied you were going to drop $100 on Arch, I was going to tell you don't waste your money as a true Freshman has never won the award and only two redshirt freshman have ever won (Manziel and Winston).

+1800 on Hartman might be a good play. He'll certainly have some preseason hype to aid him

 

[KPENN]

 

[ACamp1900]

No pressure,… but,… If he doesn’t win the natty and the Heisman then fire literally everyone

 

[Old Man Mike]

Pray, pray, pray for Coach Harry to work his arcane Magic and put out another excellent Notre Dame OLine.

If Super Sam has a lot of time on the average play, he WILL complete those plays --- that's proven absolutely already.
We won't have to have MikeMayer (or Golden Tate Jeff Samardzjia Michael Floyd), Sam with time will find who we have.
... and Please, please, please 3 (4?)-headed running monster: BLOCK THAT EXTRA RUSHER! You too TE!!

I have not for twenty(?) years seen an outlook for a monster Notre Dame offense with such easily imaginable parts at this stage of a pre-season. I'm 82, men, don't disappoint me. I want to sit back with 12+ bowls of popcorn and smile my way through this one.

 

[NorthDakota]

Pray, pray, pray for Coach Harry to work his arcane Magic and put out another excellent Notre Dame OLine.

If Super Sam has a lot of time on the average play, he WILL complete those plays --- that's proven absolutely already.
We won't have to have MikeMayer (or Golden Tate Jeff Samardzjia Michael Floyd), Sam with time will find who we have.
... and Please, please, please 3 (4?)-headed running monster: BLOCK THAT EXTRA RUSHER! You too TE!!

I have not for twenty(?) years seen an outlook for a monster Notre Dame offense with such easily imaginable parts at this stage of a pre-season. I'm 82, men, don't disappoint me. I want to sit back with 12+ bowls of popcorn and smile my way through this one.

I feel like the 2010 offense was pretty foreseeable but I may be misremembering.

Crossing my fingers with you Mike. Next year should be a great year offensively.

 

[calvegas04]

I also hope HH can finally put a great OL together, not a slow start with random lackluster games.

 

[condoms SUCk]

I also hope HH can finally put a great OL together, not a slow start with random lackluster games.

Yup, I like that we have a few games to iron things out before tOSU. I also like that we get the Navy game out of the way early.

 

[Luckylucci]

 

[dad4aa]

When does his title change from verbal to commit?

 

[Blazers46]

When does his title change from verbal to commit?

hasnt he "signed" and on campus?

 

[Luckylucci]

Updated.

 

[Irish4life]

Is that good

 

[Blazers46]

Is that good

Paging Tommy Rees.

 

[T-Boone]

The Drake is over rated.

 

[irish4ever]

Drew Pyne anyone? What are his odds?

 

[ulukinatme]

Drew Pyne anyone? What are his odds?

Who cares? A lot of fans didn't want him to begin with, and now he's gone. He bailed us out when our QB went down, they told him they were bringing in a transfer and he decided it would be better to play elsewhere. Seems good for all parties involved.

 

[GATTACA!]

Who cares? A lot of fans didn't want him to begin with, and now he's gone. He bailed us out when our QB went down, they told him they were bringing in a transfer and he decided it would be better to play elsewhere. Seems good for all parties involved.

 

[Rasputin]

Drew Pyne anyone? What are his odds?

Ironically, not short.

 

[CTIDANDREW]

I would be interested to know if that is Air Yards, or just completions that went for over 20 yards (including YAC).
Regardless, never a band thing to be at the top of either category.

 

[Irish4life]

 

[Irish4life]

I would be interested to know if that is Air Yards, or just completions that went for over 20 yards (including YAC).
Regardless, never a band thing to be at the top of either category.

It's completions that are 20+ yards down field. No YAC.

 

[Green Mountains]

Push it down field, Sam! This is good news for that inside receiver screen ND has never been able to develop. We don't need to worry about that with Sam.

 

[Old Man Mike]

I read one set of comparisons that listed Hartman as the 5th best (seriously considerable) NCAA QB for long passing ability this coming year. (The four ahead of him were Williams, Maye, Jackson State's guy, and LSUs guy.) Some of that could be the slightly longer look that he gets in that odd slow-mesh offense, but he still has to deliver the ball in the right places and have the smarts and courage to do so.

As an aside, this has already probably been mentioned, but the NFL scouts downgrade Sam because they don't like that slow-mesh offense as preparation. Hartman, almost surely, wants to demonstrate his NFL readiness by running an NFL style offense. Tommy is on the spot now to deliver an offense that Notre Dame likes and that Sam likes. Hopefully that's no problem for anyone.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

I'm surprised that Pyne didn't crack the top five on the top list; I'm excited to see Rees flip the script and bring a more vertical attack to this offense scheme.