'16 FL WR Kevin Stepherson (Notre Dame Early Enrollee)

[Sherm Sticky]

Notre Dame is just cursed...

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Wow, thanks for posting this but man, losing Stepherson would be a huge blow. That woul leave us with only McKinley and Finke. I did t know that McKinley had a broken fibula last year. We didn't get a chance to see what he has but still.....If we do lose KS, I'd say moving Claypool to X should be a must.

You see now why the loss of Adebo to Stanford the other day may end up being especially painful?

 

[Rack Em]

You see now why the loss of Adebo to Stanford the other day may end up being especially painful?

No. Everything is sunshine and fucking roses.

 

[IrishLax]

Wow, thanks for posting this but man, losing Stepherson would be a huge blow. That woul leave us with only McKinley and Finke. I did t know that McKinley had a broken fibula last year. We didn't get a chance to see what he has but still.....If we do lose KS, I'd say moving Claypool to X should be a must.

Yes, losing Stepherson would be VERY bad and it's one of the main reasons why I've been so adamant that we need a minimum of two outside WRs in this class because we have a major depth hole if we don't land any.

To expand on Stepherson's off-the-field issues, from what I gathered last month taking to people it has to do with conditions/obligations set forth after his arrest that he may not be meeting. I'd be interested to hear if anyone else has heard something similar, especially from on campus sources.

With regard to Alize Jones... if he's cleared academically, he will announced it.

EDIT: <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For all who are concerned. Yes, I am cleared and back for the 2017 spring season.<br><br>Thank you!</p>— Alizé Mack (@AlizeMack97) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlizeMack97/status/819300861016842241">January 11, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[Wingman Ray]

Alize Jones

it was mentioned in this regarding a RUMOR that he(STEPHERSON) won't be back..

loy said he was struggling w/ some "stuff", but he was told that he is doing better and focused...one thing of concern was that he said some things are OUT OF HIS CONTROL but as long as everything is good on ND's end, he wants/will be here

This crap has got to stop. You arent seeing this in Stanford, Vandy and other academic schools that compete in football. If ND is going to make it a habit of kicking out/disqualifying one key player a year, ND needs to just give up on competitive football and join the MAC or Ivy League

 

[ColinKSU]

 

[PANDFAN]

This crap has got to stop. You arent seeing this in Stanford, Vandy and other academic schools that compete in football. If ND is going to make it a habit of kicking out/disqualifying one key player a year, ND needs to just give up on competitive football and join the MAC or Ivy League

Vanderbilt rape case: Former football player sentenced - CNN.com

Rape case against Stanford football player raises questions about school’s hearing process - SFGate

just less than 1 min of my time to point out quick example

 

[gkIrish]

This crap has got to stop. You arent seeing this in Stanford, Vandy and other academic schools that compete in football. If ND is going to make it a habit of kicking out/disqualifying one key player a year, ND needs to just give up on competitive football and join the MAC or Ivy League

 

[Whiskeyjack]

This crap has got to stop. You arent seeing this in Stanford, Vandy and other academic schools that compete in football. If ND is going to make it a habit of kicking out/disqualifying one key player a year, ND needs to just give up on competitive football and join the MAC or Ivy League

Even though we consider them our only real athletic peer, Stanford does a lot of shady sh!t that ND refuses to stoop to (PEDs, steering kids toward easy majors, etc.) We are literally the Last Boy Scouts of CFB, which is why Swarbrick and Jenkins have bluntly floated the possibility of forming a separate league with other like-minded schools. Unless the NCAA starts drifting back in our direction (real student-athletes) and away from the deregulated semi-pro model of the football factories, I don't see how we can remain competitive without selling out our values.

 

[connor_in]

Even though we consider them our only real athletic peer, Stanford does a lot of shady sh!t that ND refuses to stoop to (PEDs, steering kids toward easy majors, etc.) We are literally the Last Boy Scouts of CFB, which is why Swarbrick and Jenkins have bluntly floated the possibility of forming a separate league with other like-minded schools. Unless the NCAA starts drifting back in our direction (real student-athletes) and away from the deregulated semi-pro model of the football factories, I don't see how we can remain competitive without selling out our values.

Maybe this will put schools back on the student-athlete path

Latest new developmental league will challenge college football | ProFootballTalk

Reports: NFL will propose formal developmental league in 2017
New developmental league could mark shift for college football, NFL

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Maybe this will put schools back on the student-athlete path

Latest new developmental league will challenge college football | ProFootballTalk

Reports: NFL will propose formal developmental league in 2017
New developmental league could mark shift for college football, NFL

It's definitely within the realm of possibility. The NFL is coming under scrutiny for concussions, making obscene sums under the aegis of a "not-for-profit entity" (which was dropped only recently), bilking tax payers into paying for new stadiums, etc. Similar criticisms could be leveled at the exploitative behavior of most football factories. Might only take one serious congressional inquiry and the threat of federal legislation to tip things back in our favor. But as it stands now, we're hamstrung by a moral code that no one else is following.

 

[Wingman Ray]

It's definitely within the realm of possibility. The NFL is coming under scrutiny for concussions, making obscene sums under the aegis of a "not-for-profit entity" (which was dropped only recently), bilking tax payers into paying for new stadiums, etc. Similar criticisms could be leveled at the exploitative behavior of most football factories. Might only take one serious congressional inquiry and the threat of federal legislation to tip things back in our favor. But as it stands now, we're hamstrung by a moral code that no one else is following.

And I take pride in being behind a university that has a moral code like it does. However, you cant run a race with one leg. And it is not fair that the media crucifies every little thing while holding ND up to all results win wise like the schools that do not have such a moral code.

Problem is that the day ND goes to that Ivy league, the school will cease to exist. No one will watch that football and national attention will go away. Without that, ND as a university is done. Face it folks, ND has the following it has for one reason...football. Take that away on a national scale and the school is just a small dot in a crappy town.

But honestly, if ND is going to compete, it is time for the PED and such. If not, pack it in.

 

[Meatloaf]

And I take pride in being behind a university that has a moral code like it does. However, you cant run a race with one leg. And it is not fair that the media crucifies every little thing while holding ND up to all results win wise like the schools that do not have such a moral code.

Problem is that the day ND goes to that Ivy league, the school will cease to exist. No one will watch that football and national attention will go away. Without that, ND as a university is done. Face it folks, ND has the following it has for one reason...football. Take that away on a national scale and the school is just a small dot in a crappy town.

But honestly, if ND is going to compete, it is time for the PED and such. If not, pack it in.

A school with an 11 billion dollar endowment is going to disappear because the football team folds? Modern day ND doesn't rely on football nearly as much as it did in past decades (which may explain some of modern culture problems). If you're gonna troll and/or whine stick to ND Nation or ISD. Plenty of shitposters and crybabies on those boards, you'll fit right in.

 

[Classic Irish]

And I take pride in being behind a university that has a moral code like it does. However, you cant run a race with one leg. And it is not fair that the media crucifies every little thing while holding ND up to all results win wise like the schools that do not have such a moral code.

Problem is that the day ND goes to that Ivy league, the school will cease to exist. No one will watch that football and national attention will go away. Without that, ND as a university is done. Face it folks, ND has the following it has for one reason...football. Take that away on a national scale and the school is just a small dot in a crappy town.

But honestly, if ND is going to compete, it is time for the PED and such. If not, pack it in.

Pure, unadulterated nonsense.

 

[BobbyMac]

And I take pride in being behind a university that has a moral code like it does. However, you cant run a race with one leg. And it is not fair that the media crucifies every little thing while holding ND up to all results win wise like the schools that do not have such a moral code.

Problem is that the day ND goes to that Ivy league, the school will cease to exist. No one will watch that football and national attention will go away. Without that, ND as a university is done. Face it folks, ND has the following it has for one reason...football. Take that away on a national scale and the school is just a small dot in a crappy town.

But honestly, if ND is going to compete, it is time for the PED and such. If not, pack it in.

Ray... You ever heard of the University of Chicago? Big 10 founder. National Champs. Gave up football. Now just a small dot on Chicago's reeeeally crappy southside.

They're also the #3 ranked school in the country.

ND will always be ND as a school. They got 11 billions reasons why they won't ever cease to exist.


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[Classic Irish]

Ray... You ever heard of the University of Chicago? Big 10 founder. National Champs. Gave up football. Now just a small dot on Chicago's reeeeally crappy southside.

They're also the #3 ranked school in the country.

ND will always be ND as a school. They got 11 billions reasons why they won't ever cease to exist.


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My niece is a sophomore at the University of Chicago. And some people think ND students are nerdy...

 

[BGIF]

My niece is a sophomore at the University of Chicago. And some people think ND students are nerdy...

Whiskeyjack isn't all essays, articles, and briefs.

Take for instance ... , then there's ...

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Whiskeyjack isn't all essays, articles, and briefs.

Take for instance ... , then there's ...

They don't let just anyone become a moderator here at IE:

 

[Irishcop]

So is it a foregone conclusion that Stepherson isn't coming back, or just speculation at this point in time?

 

[PANDFAN]

So is it a foregone conclusion that Stepherson isn't coming back, or just speculation at this point in time?

Read what I posted

 

[Classic Irish]

Whiskeyjack isn't all essays, articles, and briefs.

Take for instance ... , then there's ...

Despite the fact that her mom, three uncles (including me), and an aunt graduated from ND, she turned ND down for the University of Chicago. I think most people would consider us a bit nerdy, but apparently not nerdy enough for her.

 

[BobbyMac]

This is a great thread right now! lol

My niece is a sophomore at the University of Chicago. And some people think ND students are nerdy...

My college roommate's son graduated from UC with a finance/math double major and got a $200k+ actuary gig. My buddy was a kinesiology major at Valpo. (haha) but then got his Masters from Rice in the same general field so I lost all leverage on his elitist PE teachin' azz!

They don't let just anyone become a moderator here at IE:

Top 10 meme of all time. How have I never seen that. Saved to desktop.

Is this hanging over Irish "the Gaelic Hammer" Lax's waterbed?

Love ya Lax... don't banish me to Oylmpiaville

So is it a foregone conclusion that Stepherson isn't coming back, or just speculation at this point in time?

100% official speculation though fire accompanies smoke 97.8467% of the time in South Bend.



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[BGIF]

Reports: NFL will propose formal developmental league in 2017

NFL will propose formal developmental league in 2017 ...

Still uncertain if they the current name, The Southeastern Conference, will be retained, or change to a more national name, such as, The National Southeastern Conference.

It has been confirmed that the developmental league will retain all its current bowl ties, revenue sharing agreements, as well as apparel, gate, TV, concession, and parking revenues. And as before, the players will be exempt from playing school.

 

[Irishcop]

Read what I posted

Oh, got it.

 

[Irishcop]

This is a great thread right now! lol



My college roommate's son graduated from UC with a finance/math double major and got a $200k+ actuary gig. My buddy was a kinesiology major at Valpo. (haha) but then got his Masters from Rice in the same general field so I lost all leverage on his elitist PE teachin' azz!



Top 10 meme of all time. How have I never seen that. Saved to desktop.

Is this hanging over Irish "the Gaelic Hammer" Lax's waterbed?

Love ya Lax... don't banish me to Oylmpiaville



100% official speculation though fire accompanies smoke 97.8467% of the time in South Bend.



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Yes, unfortunately with ND where there is smoke.... I really hope it is nothing, would hate to lose him.

 

[BobbyMac]

Yes, unfortunately with ND where there is smoke.... I really hope it is nothing, would hate to lose him.

With any luck this time the smoke is just the rising prayers of the faithful coming from the Basilica.

 

[stlnd01]

If, as Lax said, this has to do with Stephenson not meeting conditions of his sentencing, that would seem to be on him, not Notre Dame's moral code and other such evergreen debating topics around here.
But it should also raise a big red flag around the other Very Important Players involved in that regrettable episode.

 

[BobbyMac]

If, as Lax said, this has to do with Stephenson not meeting conditions of his sentencing, that would seem to be on him, not Notre Dame's moral code and other such evergreen debating topics around here.
But it should also raise a big red flag around the other Very Important Players involved in that regrettable episode.

ND has compliance officers for academics, they should have a compliance official for legal issues when they arise too. One they keep on retainer to make sure players keep up on any court mandates. My HS teammate works in Michiana with at risk teens doing just that, helping them get out of the legal system once they are in it. He's a big (6-8, 350+) ND fan too, he'd probably do it for Mike McGlinchey and Aaron Bank's left over swag.

 

[GBdomer]

Yes, losing Stepherson would be VERY bad and it's one of the main reasons why I've been so adamant that we need a minimum of two outside WRs in this class because we have a major depth hole if we don't land any.

To expand on Stepherson's off-the-field issues, from what I gathered last month taking to people it has to do with conditions/obligations set forth after his arrest that he may not be meeting. I'd be interested to hear if anyone else has heard something similar, especially from on campus sources.

With regard to Alize Jones... if he's cleared academically, he will announced it.

EDIT: <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For all who are concerned. Yes, I am cleared and back for the 2017 spring season.<br><br>Thank you!</p>— Alizé Mack (@AlizeMack97) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlizeMack97/status/819300861016842241">January 11, 2017</a></blockquote>
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All I heard is he's never gotten out of the dog house.

 

[IrishLax]

If, as Lax said, this has to do with Stephenson not meeting conditions of his sentencing, that would seem to be on him, not Notre Dame's moral code and other such evergreen debating topics around here.
But it should also raise a big red flag around the other Very Important Players involved in that regrettable episode.

I don't know if it's court ordered stuff or ResLife (or whatever the hell they call ResLife these days) ordered stuff. I'd lean towards ResLife related. Like maybe ND said "OK, all of you guys who got arrested for weed can stay enrolled and eligible as long as you do XYZ"... and maybe he wasn't doing that. Maybe he's doing better now? But I also don't think this rumor came out of nowhere, because a lot of people seemed to have heard the same thing. Or maybe it's something else.

But I dunno... I guess we'll know whether he's enrolled in 4 days.