'16 CA QB Ian Book (Notre Dame Signed NLI)

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Book certainly had his flaws, no doubt. But the kid took more than his share of heat, which comes with the territory as the qb1 at ND.
For me, Time spent pinning for other, seemingly more talented prospects was always met with the cold reality that had those players shown they were a better option, they'd be playing.... And if there was a doubt, that point became clear when these players transferred and did little or nothing to change that reality.
 
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Book is great for what we had. About average passer (terrible deep ball thrower), above average runner, above average smarts. Don’t blame him for being the best QB in the room.
 
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SoIll said:
Lol. You’re a clown man
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Did you not watch his weak ass get nuked by every good team he ever played? Kid did what he could. Beat teams ND was supposed to. He never did anything to write home about.

Glad he filled a deep hole. But...he was a Tommy Rees with the legs to possibly escape South Bend PD.
 
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I love and hate book. Saved us when Wimbush ran into his shortcomings. Kept a much more gifted player like Phil off the field.
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Dude, Phil's on his 3rd team and his 6th year. He got benched at BC of all places, and he wasn't good enough to get drafted either.
 
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NorthDakota said:
I love and hate book. Saved us when Wimbush ran into his shortcomings. Kept a much more gifted player like Phil off the field.
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Talk about two opposites. Just listening to this interview is a good reminder of how mature Book was/is and how much he loves Notre Dame, a true Notre Dame man.
Phil has always been very immature and speaks very poorly of Notre Dame constantly.
Talent aside (which we could have a debate about that) I think they kept the right guy on the field
 
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Dude, Phil's on his 3rd team and his 6th year. He got benched at BC of all places, and he wasn't good enough to get drafted either.
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Book wouldn't have started in Fargo, ND. I won't pretend ND deserves less than an FCS school at the QB position.
 
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NorthDakota said:
Easton Stick is the Chargers backup and Trey Lance went 3rd overall in the draft. I'm sorry that Ian isn't better than them. I really am. It is actually upsetting that my podunk FCS school has consistently been better at the QB position than Notre Dame.
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Keep moving the goal posts to get away from the worst take of all time this board has seen in 19 years as a message board.
 
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notredomer23 said:
Keep moving the goal posts to get away from the worst take of all time this board has seen in 19 years as a message board.
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Ian Book should not have been anywhere near the field at Notre Dame. This is the correct take. Dude wouldn't have played in Fargo.

Sorry some of you don't have standards
 
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NorthDakota said:
Ian Book should not have been anywhere near the field at Notre Dame. This is the correct take. Dude wouldn't have played in Fargo.

Sorry some of you don't have standards
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It's one thing to argue that ND should have a better QB than Book... that's reasonable.

But your initial take was that he was keeping a more gifted QB off the field. Phil would have been on the field had he been good enough. Everyone knows his physical traits are great. But he's put plenty of tape together that shows why Tommy and Co. stuck with Book. Book was more gifted in the ways that actually matter for a high-level QB.
 
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NorthDakota said:
Ian Book should not have been anywhere near the field at Notre Dame. This is the correct take. Dude wouldn't have played in Fargo.

Sorry some of you don't have standards
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Except he was far better at playing quarterback than the highly-rated guys on either side of him in the pipeline, even if they had superior natural talent. This is a silly conversation.
 
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IrishLion said:
It's one thing to argue that ND should have a better QB than Book... that's reasonable.

But your initial take was that he was keeping a more gifted QB off the field. Phil would have been on the field had he been good enough. Everyone knows his physical traits are great. But he's put plenty of tape together that shows why Tommy and Co. stuck with Book. Book was more gifted in the ways that actually matter for a high-level QB.
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Phil is more gifted though. Whether he would have worked out or not is perfectly debatable. To me, Book got to play on high level teams that anyone remotely competent could have done well on. Phil (mostly his own fault) never got that opportunity.

Book belonged at a G5 school. ND deserves better.
 
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Phil is more gifted though. Whether he would have worked out or not is perfectly debatable. To me, Book got to play on high level teams that anyone remotely competent could have done well on. Phil (mostly his own fault) never got that opportunity.

Book belonged at a G5 school. ND deserves better.
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Phil is more gifted physically.

Ian is more gifted mentally.

Dismissing Ian based on Phil's presence is just kind of a crazy take lol. Saying that ND deserves better than Book is not a crazy take. It's what has kept ND from getting over the top in the years where they had a chance to win playoff games... but the guy to plant your flag with is NOT Philly J.
 
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NorthDakota said:
Phil is more gifted though. Whether he would have worked out or not is perfectly debatable. To me, Book got to play on high level teams that anyone remotely competent could have done well on. Phil (mostly his own fault) never got that opportunity.

Book belonged at a G5 school. ND deserves better.
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Worth noting: Phil had the opportunity. He could’ve stuck around. Would’ve been the presumptive starting QB in 2021 and ‘22 (and I guess potentially even this year?). He chose not to.
 
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stlnd01 said:
Worth noting: Phil had the opportunity. He could’ve stuck around. Would’ve been the presumptive starting QB in 2021 and ‘22 (and I guess potentially even this year?). He chose not to.
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Because he's soft and his feelings were hurt.

That's not a guy that's going to succeed playing QB at Notre Dame, regardless of his physical tools lol.

I can't imagine Philly J. playing a second half after pissing blood.
 
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NorthDakota said:
Phil is more gifted though. Whether he would have worked out or not is perfectly debatable. To me, Book got to play on high level teams that anyone remotely competent could have done well on. Phil (mostly his own fault) never got that opportunity.

Book belonged at a G5 school. ND deserves better.
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I will agree with you that Phil was more gifted but that doesn't equate to being the best product to put on the field. That guy was a head case.
 
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Because he's soft and his feelings were hurt.

That's not a guy that's going to succeed playing QB at Notre Dame, regardless of his physical tools lol.

I can't imagine Philly J. playing a second half after pissing blood.
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Or throwing a game winning touchdown pass immediately after dislocating his finger, or even showing half the stones that Drew Pyne did last year.
 
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Book is on an NFL team. Regardless of depth chart position that's impressive. Phil hasn't even gotten a decent draft grade and is on year 6 and his 3rd team. That says enough.
 
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Henges24 said:
Book is great for what we had. About average passer (terrible deep ball thrower), above average runner, above average smarts. Don’t blame him for being the best QB in the room.
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Book got the most out of his ability. He has nothing to apologize for about his ND career.

That said, it was jarring to see a CFB Playoff QB lineup of Trevor Lawrence/Justin Fields/Mac Jones/Book. Those other QBs are 1-2 tiers above Book, and that’s the difference between CFB Playoff losses and wins for a program with ND’s recruiting limitations.
 
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