'15 FL ATH Dexter Williams (Notre Dame Signed NLI)

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Yes Dex got put on his ass on that play, but if he's not there to slow him down, the linebacker knocks down Book's pass and we kick a field goal instead of score a touchdown. Dex did his job.
 
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I guess we'll just have agree to disagree here, Koon and thats okay. I know that pointing out pass pro can seem a little knit picky, but it sure as heck is something scouts looks at. At the end of the day, Dex is still bringing a new dimension to the running game and it was refreshing to see on Saturday.

That's fine, and I don't mean to get hung up on your "a few seconds" point, I don't think we realize how quickly plays actually are.

He could do better. But 1:1 vs. edge rusher where you have the outside to force them is tough enough for a RB. Up the middle where the LB is the one with momentum and can go either side? That's an impossible spot for a RB and I truly believe all you can do is square up and take the hit to slow them down.

If the RB in that situation braces up to really put their foot in the ground and hold them up, they risk "guessing wrong" because they have to hedge to one side or the other, and that's a 50/50 on good block vs. complete wiff.

Yeah it didn't look pretty and he looks like he got his @ss kicked, and I'm sure it made for funny GIFs around the internet, but he did what he had to do.

And for all you kids on here, this is how you respectfully end a disagreement where you are both on opposite sides and not inching any closer to an agreement after strongly stating your opposing opinion. Respectfully end the conversation and shake hands.

Arrowryan and I are men, we're 40. Come after us.

We liked beer. We still like beer.
 
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And for all you kids on here, this is how you respectfully end a disagreement where you are both on opposite sides and not inching any closer to an agreement after strongly stating your opposing opinion. Respectfully end the conversation and shake hands.

Arrowryan and I are men, we're 40. Come after us.

We liked beer. We still like beer.

I had already given you mental props. Then you had to go and ruin it by fluffing yourself lol.
 

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Koon:

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And for all you kids on here, this is how you respectfully end a disagreement where you are both on opposite sides and not inching any closer to an agreement after strongly stating your opposing opinion. Respectfully end the conversation and shake hands.

Arrowryan and I are men, we're 40. Come after us.

We liked beer. We still like beer.

Don't go boofing yourself.
 

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I guess we'll just have agree to disagree here, Koon and thats okay. I know that pointing out pass pro can seem a little knit picky, but it sure as heck is something scouts looks at. At the end of the day, Dex is still bringing a new dimension to the running game and it was refreshing to see on Saturday.

That's fine, and I don't mean to get hung up on your "a few seconds" point, I don't think we realize how quickly plays actually are.

He could do better. But 1:1 vs. edge rusher where you have the outside to force them is tough enough for a RB. Up the middle where the LB is the one with momentum and can go either side? That's an impossible spot for a RB and I truly believe all you can do is square up and take the hit to slow them down.

If the RB in that situation braces up to really put their foot in the ground and hold them up, they risk "guessing wrong" because they have to hedge to one side or the other, and that's a 50/50 on good block vs. complete wiff.

Yeah it didn't look pretty and he looks like he got his @ss kicked, and I'm sure it made for funny GIFs around the internet, but he did what he had to do.

And for all you kids on here, this is how you respectfully end a disagreement where you are both on opposite sides and not inching any closer to an agreement after strongly stating your opposing opinion. Respectfully end the conversation and shake hands.

Arrowryan and I are men, we're 40. Come after us.

We liked beer. We still like beer.


Well...not actually. You see arrow stated he would agree to disagree and basically left it at that. Then you agreed to disagree and then continued to tell us how smart you are...
 

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I hate to bring this up again, but on the II podcast O'Malley stated that Dex was terrible in pass pro against Stanford. He also said that Jones is the best pass pro back they have and is the only one that can absorb a body.
 

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I hate to bring this up again, but on the II podcast O'Malley stated that Dex was terrible in pass pro against Stanford. He also said that Jones is the best pass pro back they have and is the only one that can absorb a body.

I would agree. The times I have watched Armstrong, he just tries to throw a shoulder into the pass rusher.
 

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I would agree. The times I have watched Armstrong, he just tries to throw a shoulder into the pass rusher.

Which isn't surprising, in my opinion. Jafar is still really early in the development stage at running back.
 

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I hate to bring this up again, but on the II podcast O'Malley stated that Dex was terrible in pass pro against Stanford. He also said that Jones is the best pass pro back they have and is the only one that can absorb a body.

TJ Jr is really the only one that's more than decent. Everyone else is behind. Sucks though that TJ Jr is the least likely to take one to the house...

The good news is, Book makes it much easier on everyone that has to block... So the risk is not near what it was with BW as QB.

Which isn't surprising, in my opinion. Jafar is still really early in the development stage at running back.

He's a pup. Plenty of time to learn and get it right.
 

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A lot of posters here seem to want to run Dex into the ground. We didn't spread the load out much last year and the wear got to our star running back, and Josh Adams was a much more durable back than Dex has shown to be so far.
 

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A lot of posters here seem to want to run Dex into the ground. We didn't spread the load out much last year and the wear got to our star running back, and Josh Adams was a much more durable back than Dex has shown to be so far.

I don't want to run him into the ground, but with injuries, he's gonna get the load.
He's fresh AF right now, so I'm OK letting him be the feature until the bye so others can get healthy.
 

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SHOULD, i say should, be able to get him some rest with some of the upcoming games. It's only his second game of the year I don't think wear and tear should be a concern.
 

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He is dangerous. Hopefully he gets 10 carries against Pitt then rests up for the run home.
 

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I under estimated how explosive Dex is. I’m glad he finally got his shit together.


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He sucks so bad at blitz pickup, he should be on the bench all the time!

I'll admit, I'm more on the dex-train then even koon. I'm no scout, but he just has "it", much more than even Adams, who rocked it out last year. He has 330+ yds and 4 tds this year, in only 2 games. Both against ranked teams. If he'd been available the first 4 games, he'd probably be in the Heisman running. (20% kidding)
 
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Doubtful because he would be splitting carries with a healthy Jones and Armstrong. Plus who knows if he would still be in BK's doghouse or not. I think the way things worked out for him this year have been quite serendipitous and will wind up paying dividends for him.
I'll admit, I'm more on the dex-train then even koon. I'm no scout, but he just has "it", much more than even Adams, who rocked it out last year. He has 330+ yds and 4 tds this year, in only 2 games. Both against ranked teams. If he'd been available the first 4 games, he'd probably be in the Heisman running. (20% kidding)

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Got an ESPN College Football Final helmet sticker.
Called him the "difference maker" for ND
 
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He's very fun to watch. Some backs just look "different" when they have the ball. Dex is one of those guys.
 
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