'14 CO ATH Nathan Starks (UCLA Verbal)

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Really wish we'd get this kid. Can somebody start a petition thread.
Very nice RB/S option. Both of which we do not have in 14 (unless you count Drue as a S, or IM).
 

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I really don't care if we get him or not. I mean clearly the kid isn't the most moral of kids. I question his dedication to football if he is willing to put himself before the team (at Bishop). And do we really need him? I do not think we are losing any RB's (correct me if I'm wrong) and if we don't take one this cycle we can go all in for a top one in '15 with that pitch.
 

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I really don't care if we get him or not. I mean clearly the kid isn't the most moral of kids. I question his dedication to football if he is willing to put himself before the team (at Bishop). And do we really need him? I do not think we are losing any RB's (correct me if I'm wrong) and if we don't take one this cycle we can go all in for a top one in '15 with that pitch.

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I really don't care if we get him or not. I mean clearly the kid isn't the most moral of kids. I question his dedication to football if he is willing to put himself before the team (at Bishop). And do we really need him? I do not think we are losing any RB's (correct me if I'm wrong) and if we don't take one this cycle we can go all in for a top one in '15 with that pitch.

Have you met the kid??
 
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I really don't care if we get him or not. I mean clearly the kid isn't the most moral of kids. I question his dedication to football if he is willing to put himself before the team (at Bishop). And do we really need him? I do not think we are losing any RB's (correct me if I'm wrong) and if we don't take one this cycle we can go all in for a top one in '15 with that pitch.

such fail
 

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You don't have to agree with me. What do I know anyways. I'm just saying he was kicked out of Bishop Gorman high school. If we got him I would not be upset at all because there is an upside there. I just think it is foolish to take a kid with a troubled past when it isn't a position of need at all. He could have made a turn around morally I don't know him personally (clearly).
 
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You don't have to agree with me. What do I know anyways. I'm just saying he was kicked out of Bishop Gorman high school. If we got him I would not be upset at all because there is an upside there. I just think it is foolish to take a kid with a troubled past when it isn't a position of need at all. He could have made a turn around morally I don't know him personally (clearly).

Oh please... maybe you should start with "what do I know anyways."

Morality = not doing drugs? Really? The 1980s called, they want their ignorance back. This has nothing to do with what is moral. Jesus fucking Christ..
 

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He was selling drugs... I mean the kid was told he would not be able to play football in Nevada. It's not like they simply caught his smoking weed and took that kind of action. Fine take morals out of this because the point is he let his team down with his actions and that to me is where the problem is. Call me ignorant all you want because you clearly know me.
 

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He was selling drugs... I mean the kid was told he would not be able to play football in Nevada. It's not like they simply caught his smoking weed and took that kind of action. Fine take morals out of this because the point is he let his team down with his actions and that to me is where the problem is. Call me ignorant all you want because you clearly know me.

You don't know that for sure. He certainly wasn't charged with selling drugs.

You probably think our lads don't smoke weed too, eh? Lol
 

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You don't know that for sure. He certainly wasn't charged with selling drugs.

You probably think our lads don't smoke weed too, eh? Lol

I'm not saying there is something wrong with smoking weed. I personally do not, but have I before, yes. But they don't just kick you out of the state for smoking weed, especially when you're a stud. Fine "moral" might have been the wrong word. Is selfish better?
 
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I'm not saying there is something wrong with smoking weed. I personally do not, but have I before, yes. But they don't just kick you out of the state for smoking weed, especially when you're a stud.

He wasn't kicked out of the state. He was kicked out of Gorman, and you can't play in Nevada the next season if you were expelled.

Fine "moral" might have been the wrong word. Is selfish better?

Only slightly, stupid is better. The rumor we have to go on is that he was caught with molly. There has been no charge, and not even an insinuation that he was some stereotypical dealer.
 

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I read he was caught with a large amount of weed and students ratted him out saying he sold it. Then to make it worse they found a stolen Ipad in his locker. I mean they are all rumors, and the point was that he couldn't play anymore in Nevada, that hurt his team and who's fault was it? I hope he has matured and if we got him I would support the staff's decision. I believe it is unnecessary to pursue him that's all.
 

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Give the kid a chance. If he messes up, boot him. As long as he knows he only has one shot at Notre Dame to do things right, then the risk is worth it. Mess up... pack your bags.

But the testimony he would have IF he were to go to Notre Dame and do things right. The present risk here is therefore worth the potential reward.
 

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Give the kid a chance. If he messes up, boot him. As long as he knows he only has one shot at Notre Dame to do things right, then the risk is worth it. Mess up... pack your bags.

But the testimony he would have IF he were to go to Notre Dame and do things right. The present risk here is therefore worth the potential reward.

Since we don't really know the circumstances it's hard to speculate but I agree with you. If he's got the grades AND has shown a desire and willingness to get things right, getting into Notre Dame could be a life changer for him.

How many of us really understood and appreciated the ramifications of our younger years. Ok, probably a few but for the most of us I bet we all have some actions that could have turned out much worse. I did, lucky I'm not dead save just being lucky.

I admit to having a heart string for underdogs, don't we all as fans of Notre Dame.
 

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I read he was caught with a large amount of weed and students ratted him out saying he sold it. Then to make it worse they found a stolen Ipad in his locker. I mean they are all rumors, and the point was that he couldn't play anymore in Nevada, that hurt his team and who's fault was it? I hope he has matured and if we got him I would support the staff's decision. I believe it is unnecessary to pursue him that's all.

I'm not even saying that he didn't. But you don't even have the "rumor" right. He also wasn't kicked out of the state. Finally... Selling drugs, especially the drugs rumored, are a serious crime. Last time I checked, he was never arrested for anything.

Christ.... Our starting QB was arrested for assaulting a police officer. As said above, knocking this kid is throwing stones in a glass house.
 

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Since we don't really know the circumstances it's hard to speculate but I agree with you. If he's got the grades AND has shown a desire and willingness to get things right, getting into Notre Dame could be a life changer for him.

How many of us really understood and appreciated the ramifications of our younger years. Ok, probably a few but for the most of us I bet we all have some actions that could have turned out much worse. I did, lucky I'm not dead save just being lucky.

I admit to having a heart string for underdogs, don't we all as fans of Notre Dame.

Very well put!!!! Not one of us has walked the higher moral ground in every single instance of our lives......I certainly haven't, and, as my uncle used to tell family friends, I started life with a 0-2 count......not going to lie, my parents did a piss poor job of parenting. As you get older hind site is always 20/20......
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Four-star RB Nathan Starks just committed to <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23UCLA&src=hash">#UCLA</a> after talking with Jim Mora tonight. His quote: "I'm a Bruin."</p>— Edward Lewis (@EdwardLewisBSR) <a href="https://twitter.com/EdwardLewisBSR/statuses/419650747039379456">January 5, 2014</a></blockquote>
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prolly first program to give him the green light and i can't blame him for going for it.

hope things end up going well for him
 
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Welp, at least he'll be giving USC problems.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Four-star RB Nathan Starks just committed to <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23UCLA&src=hash">#UCLA</a> after talking with Jim Mora tonight. His quote: "I'm a Bruin."</p>— Edward Lewis (@EdwardLewisBSR) <a href="https://twitter.com/EdwardLewisBSR/statuses/419650747039379456">January 5, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Does this mean he is trolling Mora and going to flip to us in a reverse EV?
 

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We can all debate whether or not he should have been a take... but it's telling that so many other high profile don't give half a crap about some of the stuff ND does.
 
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