'13 WA TE/OLB Danny Mattingly (Oregon Verbal)

[IrishLion]

Personally I really hope he sticks because I like his flexibility to move to tight end if we need him to. If we stick with this power-running stuff (and we are recruiting a fullback in 2014, so it looks like we might), I think we will be able to use more tight ends. So even if Danny is stuck behind Jaylon and Randolph at OLB, he could be a valuable player for us. Special teams, too; we need good special teams guys right now.

Who is this you speak of?

 

[irishfanjho15]

Nah, that's not at all what I mean.

Mattingly's value comes from his versatility. He's a jumbo athlete and a good prospect. If he only wants to play TE, his value goes down. If he's not open to having the staff go "plug and play" until they find where he works best, his value goes down.

For example, Niklas was considered by some services as a great OT prospect... others as a DE... and instead he was open to playing OLB in his first year and then switching over to TE. KeiVarae Russel is another example of a kid who was a truly elite RB prospect but came in with a great attitude of "put me where you need me most" (he literally told the coaches that) and as such is a huge contributor.

If Mattingly is honestly as inclined as it has been reported that he wants to play TE then his value as a prospect drops considerably. He could could be great as a TE, but he also might never see the field at ND. If he was open to being a "glue" piece and play wherever he fits best then his value goes way up.

If there is one thing that is a necessity with undeveloped or flexible ATH prospects it's that they have an open mind, a very team-first attitude, and really want to be at the school. Otherwise the odds of them being a contributor go way down and the odds of a transfer go way up.

Perfect. ND is already on an uneven playing field when it comes to recruiting (no JUCOs, no over-signing, no telling guys to transfer, no gray shirts, no fake med scholarships, and real-life academic standards). They need all the flexibility they can get when it comes to two to four recruits a year. They need to be able to fill guys in that have the athleticism needed to compete at the elite BCS level. When you take the ethical route and don't sign 25-30 guys a year, every year you have to recruit with a backup plan in place.

 

[johnnykillz]

Just saying dude if he is visiting Oregon he needs to decommitt. He has been a major supportive of Washington lately. You dont hear any updates from him ever. The writing is on the wall, I want Danny to be part of this class. Sorry if my comment came off like that I didn't mean it to be like that. Don't just single me out when everyone agrees with me.

I meant douchebag move he gone.

Not you.

Like sh!tty he decommitted.

 

[Ironman8]

Nah, that's not at all what I mean.

Mattingly's value comes from his versatility. He's a jumbo athlete and a good prospect. If he only wants to play TE, his value goes down. If he's not open to having the staff go "plug and play" until they find where he works best, his value goes down.

For example, Niklas was considered by some services as a great OT prospect... others as a DE... and instead he was open to playing OLB in his first year and then switching over to TE. KeiVarae Russel is another example of a kid who was a truly elite RB prospect but came in with a great attitude of "put me where you need me most" (he literally told the coaches that) and as such is a huge contributor.

If Mattingly is honestly as inclined as it has been reported that he wants to play TE then his value as a prospect drops considerably. He could could be great as a TE, but he also might never see the field at ND. If he was open to being a "glue" piece and play wherever he fits best then his value goes way up.

If there is one thing that is a necessity with undeveloped or flexible ATH prospects it's that they have an open mind, a very team-first attitude, and really want to be at the school. Otherwise the odds of them being a contributor go way down and the odds of a transfer go way up.

Understand you now, and agree.

 

[Ironman8]

I meant douchebag move he gone.

Not you.

Like sh!tty he decommitted.

I think the "he gone" quote has gotten to the point where it is pretty sh!tty on it's own, as well.

 

[johnnykillz]

I think the "he gone" quote has gotten to the point where it is pretty sh!tty on it's own, as well.

That's debatable but I'm normally a forthright dude.

I can see how this lack of distinction created this issue though.

My apologies to GB.

But as you mentioned, it may not be the best phrased approach to stating Mattingly will likely waiver due to Oregon's crappy rule.

 

[NDPhilly]

Personally I don't think he'll ever start at whatever position he plays. DOG he'll be behind Jaylon, CAT he'll be behing Alquadin, and TE he'll be behind Heuerman though I think thats his best bet to start. Won't really care if we lose him and with that room get say Folston at the end.

 

[Irishman77]

Personally I don't think he'll ever start at whatever position he plays. DOG he'll be behind Jaylon, CAT he'll be behing Alquadin, and TE he'll be behind Heuerman though I think thats his best bet to start. Won't really care if we lose him and with that room get say Folston at the end.

On paper I agree, but whose to say he doesn't show up on campus and outplay everyone. We will have to see.

 

[NDdomer2]

Personally I don't think he'll ever start at whatever position he plays. DOG he'll be behind Jaylon, CAT he'll be behing Alquadin, and TE he'll be behind Heuerman though I think thats his best bet to start. Won't really care if we lose him and with that room get say Folston at the end.

Few positions have guys on field for every down and if we only recruited starters we wouldn't have very many guys on team. Mattingly is great depth and either olb spot and the te position, which has more than one on the field here recently. Not to mention injuries do happen.

Also, we can take Folston and keep Mattingly.

 

[IrishLax]

Few positions have guys on field for every down and if we only recruited starters we wouldn't have very many guys on team. Mattingly is great depth and either olb spot and the te position, which has more than one on the field here recently. Not to mention injuries do happen.

Also, we can take Folston and keep Mattingly.

Not really if you also pencil in AQM and Redfield... at that point you're talking about people needing to leave early, transfer, or not bring back a valuable 5th year.

 

[NDdomer2]

Everyone has been saying Aqm, Redfield, and one of Treadwell/Robinson. Don't see why Folston can't fit in there. Maybe that's a lost 5th year but that's up to the coaches. If we are to lose Nichols its definitely an option.

 

[arahop]

I love the fact that our "biggest problem" this year is if a 3* prospect will sign with us. Personally I like Danny's big skill attributes and if he stays with the Irish great. If he doesn't that means we have room for Folston/Treadwell/Robinson/Williams. I would take any one of those players any day. This is all assuming we end up with AQM/Redfield. Great problem to have at the end of the day.

 

[NDPhilly]

Mattingly became a lot less valuable to us when Randolph committed

 

[Rack Em]

Mattingly became a lot less valuable to us when Randolph committed

True to an extent. Lax hit it on the head earlier. His true value is in his ability to play LB or TE.

 

[Luckylucci]

Also to a certain extent I believe Emcee mentioned this. Great teams have bad *** players on special teams. Danny as a freshman and sophmore would be a very quality athlete on special teams.

 

[magogian]

SIAP, ESPN gave him a 4th star today.

 

[Emcee77]

Who is this you speak of?

http://www.irishenvy.com/forums/201...197-14-tx-fb-daniel-gresham-texas-verbal.html

 

[Buster Bluth]

Mattingly became a lot less valuable to us when Randolph committed

He's a stud athlete who can play in space. You can't have enough of those guys. He can play DOG or TE for this squad at a high level. He's a valuable recruit.

 

[Fbolt]

I want him (Mattingly). Stick with it kid and be a part of something special.

 

[SoJerseyIrish]

Having too much talent is a good problem, I agree, I hope he sticks with ND. These depth chart problems have a way of working themself out.......injuries, homesick, grades, etc etc

Is it too soon to call him Danny Football?

 

[Chris P. Bacon]

That's a bingo (sorry no gif - posting from my phone).

 

[peoriairish]

He said gif... not picture. Get your **** together man!

 

[Chris P. Bacon]

He said gif... not picture. Get your **** together man!

HAHA!

 

[Luckylucci]

Oregon recruiting rewind: Recruiting heats up for Ducks (Free)

This guy seems extremely confident that not only will mattingly be a duck soon but also redfield when all is said and done. If they leave for the ducks I will bummed that I won't get to cheer for them but will completely write them off as never really wanting to be here. Clearly they don't value what we do.

 

[GoIrish399]

Oregon recruiting rewind: Recruiting heats up for Ducks (Free)

This guy seems extremely confident that not only will mattingly be a duck soon but also redfield when all is said and done. If they leave for the ducks I will bummed that I won't get to cheer for them but will completely write them off as never really wanting to be here. Clearly they don't value what we do.

If I read that article correctly, that's not how it sounds at all. It just sounds like he thinks that they will both visit.

 

[Irish_irish]

Oregon recruiting rewind: Recruiting heats up for Ducks (Free)

This guy seems extremely confident that not only will mattingly be a duck soon but also redfield when all is said and done. If they leave for the ducks I will bummed that I won't get to cheer for them but will completely write them off as never really wanting to be here. Clearly they don't value what we do.

I didn't read it as him being confident in those two becoming ducks. When talking about both he says they are prospects he thinks Oregon will "make a push for". Unless I missed something I think he was just saying he thinks Oregon will be big players in the recruitment of both kids.

 

[OrlaNDomer]

^ I didn't feel like he came off as too confident. He said that they MAY get visits out of each of them.

 

[Irish To The Core]

Oregon recruiting rewind: Recruiting heats up for Ducks (Free)

This guy seems extremely confident that not only will mattingly be a duck soon but also redfield when all is said and done. If they leave for the ducks I will bummed that I won't get to cheer for them but will completely write them off as never really wanting to be here. Clearly they don't value what we do.

Pardon me?

Number one why should anyone care what some guy writing for the Oregon fan base says?

Secondly he he doesn't actually say anything. They "could" visit and that Oregon "could" make a push for one or both of them. In otherwords, he has no real information to pass on.

Thirdly, Redfield has not given his verbal commitment to Notre Dame. He can't leave until he does.

All of this "Chicken Little" the sky is falling crap bothers me. I recall another 2013 recruit being declared "gone" by everybody with a highspeed internet connection and a Notre Dame replica jersey a short while ago, only to have him confirm his commitment soon thereafter.

It would be nice to refrain from personal attacks "they don't value what we do" etc. even if a recruit does decommit. (Tuitt did briefly, did that make his values questionable?) But especially this sort of jilted girlfriend stuff should not be directed at a recruit who is still commited to ND or, in Redfield's case, one who has simply said he was blown away by ND, but who is still considering his options.

 

[Irish YJ]

There is a premium Scout article on DM claifying his status.... anyone? Bump

 

[Irish YJ]

There is a premium Scout article on DM claifying his status.... anyone? Bump

Anyone? Bueller?