'08 CA QB Dayne Crist (Kansas Transfer)

[Kaneyoufeelit]

Ravens added him http://bsun.md/YW3WEF

 

[WakeUpEchoes]

Dude. That would be sweet if Dayne somehow magically got it right between his ears and could perform up to his potential in the NFL, as a backup anyway.

I just don't see it happening.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I am praying he does! That would be so cool!

 

[GO IRISH!!!]

You just never know. With all the adversity he has been through and the undying professionalism he handled everything, he has a lot of intangible experience that may not appear on the stat sheet.

I hope he has a long career.

 

[military_irish]

Maybe he just needs the right teacher, if something "clicks" I think he could have a formidable career as a back up or even (heck) a 3-4 year starter because he has the talent. Just needs the extra mental "gear".

 

[Cackalacky]

He had 20 TDs for ND? I just don't remember those......

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

Waived by the Ravens.

https://twitter.com/ravens/status/341936539418390528

 

[rtrn2glory]

hopefully he gained valuable experience that he can take into his next challenge.

 

[NDdomer2]

hopefully he gained valuable experience in class at ND that he can take into his next challenge outside of football.

FTFY

Super awesome kid, not so super awesome with the pads on.

Can't think his football career is going to last too much longer.

 

[Cackalacky]

That did not last long. Good luck Dayne.

 

[Old Man Mike]

Wish things had worked better for Dayne, who is obviously a great young man, BUT, this is one more nail in the coffin for those in IE who rail that Kelly doesn't know what he's doing with these "unpopular" moves.

 

[Patulski]

I don't think that's a shock at all. He's got the physical capabilities to be a QB and someone will most certainly give him a look.

For his sake, I hope he goes undrafted so he can pick his team.

These kinds of observations baffle me. Dayne Crist had a Passing Efficiency Rating of 96.52 in his 5th year of college football. The NCAA only ranks 100 QB's for Passing Efficiency and Dayne's rating was well below the worst in Division 1 football. This, after spending two years with Brian Kelly and three years with Charlie Weis, each of whom have worked with and/or developed NFL QB's.

So, he certainly does not have the physical capabilities to be a good QB, otherwise he would have shown them in the ample opportunity he got to display his capabilities.

Some guys simply do not have much talent. Dayne is one of them.

Dayne did go undrafted, He's already been cut as a free agent.

 

[mick2]

These kinds of observations baffle me. Dayne Crist had a Passing Efficiency Rating of 96.52 in his 5th year of college football. The NCAA only ranks 100 QB's for Passing Efficiency and Dayne's rating was well below the worst in Division 1 football. This, after spending two years with Brian Kelly and three years with Charlie Weis, each of whom have worked with and/or developed NFL QB's.

So, he certainly does not have the physical capabilities to be a good QB, otherwise he would have shown them in the ample opportunity he got to display his capabilities.

Some guys simply do not have much talent. Dayne is one of them.

Dayne did go undrafted, He's already been cut as a free agent.

this observation baffles me, the kid had enough talent to play football at the greatest University in the nation. Got a degree, and did it all with class.

There's probably more talent in dayne crists pinky finger than your entire body.

 

[UmphreakDomer]

this observation baffles me, the kid had enough talent to play football at the greatest University in the nation. Got a degree, and did it all with class.

There's probably more talent in dayne crists pinky finger than your entire body.

maybe you took the previous post a little too seriously. i think you are looking at this situation with clover colored glasses. being a "class act" and being talented on the field are two very different things. dayne, as great a person he is, he's not a player. he could be a decent position coach, maybe. or like a "student life/college athlete" liaison.

proof is in the pudding. dayne is a bust. he was a 5 star that never was. and his nfl career will be worse than brady quinn, who i would lump into that "good person/hard worker/doesnt have it" category.

its possible to be a logical fan and not just fanatic.

 

[BGIF]

this observation baffles me, the kid had enough talent to play football at the greatest University in the nation. Got a degree, and did it all with class.

There's probably more talent in dayne crists pinky finger than your entire body.

There could well be but unfortunately his CAREER QB EFF Rating tends to indicate he didn't use much more talent than that pinky. He was beaten out by lesser QBs at different schools and with differenthead coaches, one of whom recruited Crist twice!

Like Ron Powlus I suspect the multiple injuries effected his development/performance. But if you look back Weis kept him on an extremely short leash during Clausen's last year. Crist had demonstrated he had a big arm but Weis wouldn't let him use it relegating him handoffs rather than preparing for the post Clausen era. Back then I asked here if Charlie knew something he wasn't sharing. He seemed to display a lack of confidence, for whatever reason, for a 5 Star rookie in garbage time.

 

[ScooterIrish]

maybe you took the previous post a little too seriously. i think you are looking at this situation with clover colored glasses. being a "class act" and being talented on the field are two very different things. dayne, as great a person he is, he's not a player. he could be a decent position coach, maybe. or like a "student life/college athlete" liaison.

proof is in the pudding. dayne is a bust. he was a 5 star that never was. and his nfl career will be worse than brady quinn, who i would lump into that "good person/hard worker/doesnt have it" category.

its possible to be a logical fan and not just fanatic.

Well, I think BGIF nailed it with Crist...but Quinn was a very good college QB for us and his NFL career (he's still in the league right?) doesn't say anything about his college career. Much like Tebow, IMO, was one of the best college players in the last 20 years. Not much of a NFL QB though.

 

[Emcee77]

What's wrong with Quinn's NFL career? He's looking like he'll have a long career as a backup QB. He'll make plenty of money and save a lot of wear and tear on his body. I'd take that.

 

[Ndaccountant]

There could well be but unfortunately his CAREER QB EFF Rating tends to indicate he didn't use much more talent than that pinky. He was beaten out by lesser QBs at different schools and with differenthead coaches, one of whom recruited Crist twice!

Like Ron Powlus I suspect the multiple injuries effected his development/performance. But if you look back Weis kept him on an extremely short leash during Clausen's last year. Crist had demonstrated he had a big arm but Weis wouldn't let him use it relegating him handoffs rather than preparing for the post Clausen era. Back then I asked here if Charlie knew something he wasn't sharing. He seemed to display a lack of confidence, for whatever reason, for a 5 Star rookie in garbage time.

Maybe I am different on this, but I tend to look at his talent and performance as two different things. The game against MSU in 2010 was on the other night and I was reminded of how much talent Crist had. He had mental errors in that game, but when his read was right and he had the confidence to know it was right, the ball was pretty and was on target. Personally, I think he is the prime example of a guy that lost confidence in himself and I don't think he ever got it back.

 

[UmphreakDomer]

Well, I think BGIF nailed it with Crist...but Quinn was a very good college QB for us and his NFL career (he's still in the league right?) doesn't say anything about his college career. Much like Tebow, IMO, was one of the best college players in the last 20 years. Not much of a NFL QB though.

What's wrong with Quinn's NFL career? He's looking like he'll have a long career as a backup QB. He'll make plenty of money and save a lot of wear and tear on his body. I'd take that.

my point, gentlemen, is that as great quinn was (you could even lump clausen into this), in college, it never translated to the nfl--as a starter. it never materialized for dayne in college, so there is nothing wrong with an argument that his career was in fact a bust.

and quinns career, yeah, great. he's a back up and in some cases throughout his career 3rd string, behind freaking tim tebow! awesome. im not ragging on him either. but, the expectations, that i know i had from him, were a lot higher.

for chrissakes on jaylons page a poster was already saying he's a (or could be) a top 5 pick!! so my point, emcee, is that we as fans can not and should not be "fanatical" about certain things that are subjective. not saying you did this. you merely rationalized. but let's not miss the point--after college, quinn (and clausen) have not had an even mildly decent nfl career. and dayne crist will not either.

 

[GoldenToTheGrave]

my point, gentlemen, is that as great quinn was (you could even lump clausen into this), in college, it never translated to the nfl--as a starter. it never materialized for dayne in college, so there is nothing wrong with an argument that his career was in fact a bust.

and quinns career, yeah, great. he's a back up and in some cases throughout his career 3rd string, behind freaking tim tebow! awesome. im not ragging on him either. but, the expectations, that i know i had from him, were a lot higher.

for chrissakes on jaylons page a poster was already saying he's a (or could be) a top 5 pick!! so my point, emcee, is that we as fans can not and should not be "fanatical" about certain things that are subjective. not saying you did this. you merely rationalized. but let's not miss the point--after college, quinn (and clausen) have not had an even mildly decent nfl career. and dayne crist will not either.

I assume you're referring to me there. What I was saying about Jaylon is that he reminds me a lot of Von Miller (#2 overall) in terms of athleticism and skill set. Very different to say that a player has that kind of potential, and to say a player who never got it together at the D1 level will have a realistic shot at even making an NFL roster.

Sorry Dayne, at least you have your ND degree.

 

[mick2]

maybe you took the previous post a little too seriously. i think you are looking at this situation with clover colored glasses. being a "class act" and being talented on the field are two very different things. dayne, as great a person he is, he's not a player. he could be a decent position coach, maybe. or like a "student life/college athlete" liaison.

proof is in the pudding. dayne is a bust. he was a 5 star that never was. and his nfl career will be worse than brady quinn, who i would lump into that "good person/hard worker/doesnt have it" category.

its possible to be a logical fan and not just fanatic.

There could well be but unfortunately his CAREER QB EFF Rating tends to indicate he didn't use much more talent than that pinky. He was beaten out by lesser QBs at different schools and with differenthead coaches, one of whom recruited Crist twice!

Like Ron Powlus I suspect the multiple injuries effected his development/performance. But if you look back Weis kept him on an extremely short leash during Clausen's last year. Crist had demonstrated he had a big arm but Weis wouldn't let him use it relegating him handoffs rather than preparing for the post Clausen era. Back then I asked here if Charlie knew something he wasn't sharing. He seemed to display a lack of confidence, for whatever reason, for a 5 Star rookie in garbage time.

maybe you guys are taking things like qb efficiency and that stats bs too seriously.

You don't climb to be a 5 star recruit and starter at Notre Dame university without talent.

Stats are a totally different thing than talent. If it weren't for the knee injury in the tulsa game who knows where he'd be right now, but to say he doesn't have talent is insane.

 

[UmphreakDomer]

maybe you guys are taking things like qb efficiency and that stats bs too seriously.

You don't climb to be a 5 star recruit and starter at Notre Dame university without talent.

Stats are a totally different thing than talent. If it weren't for the knee injury in the tulsa game who knows where he'd be right now, but to say he doesn't have talent is insane.

ok mick. yes, you are correct to a certain degree. i'm not saying dayne doesnt have talent, or never did. i'm saying he peaked in high school. in a nutshell. he's got a helluva arm. and he's faster than i ever was. but, it translated poorly to ND from sherman oaks. and it will not translate at all to the nfl, SO, by in by, i can make an argument that dayne doesnt have the "talent" to make it in the nfl. as he didnt have the "talent" to make a stronger contribution to nd football (on the field). read "talent" as you will. but this goes well beyond a knee injury or two.

im not trying to hate on dayne. im simply taking a realistic approach to your points.

 

[mick2]

ok mick. yes, you are correct to a certain degree. i'm not saying dayne doesnt have talent, or never did. i'm saying he peaked in high school. in a nutshell. he's got a helluva arm. and he's faster than i ever was. but, it translated poorly to ND from sherman oaks. and it will not translate at all to the nfl, SO, by in by, i can make an argument that dayne doesnt have the "talent" to make it in the nfl. as he didnt have the "talent" to make a stronger contribution to nd football (on the field). read "talent" as you will. but this goes well beyond a knee injury or two.

im not trying to hate on dayne. im simply taking a realistic approach to your points.

ehh whatever, not into online arguments, some guy said dayne wasn't talented so i defended the kid. The NFL is the tippy top of the talent pool. many talented football players have never even taken a snap in the nfl. so i think that using the criteria of being in the nfl = talented, and everything else = not talented is a less realistic approach to the whole argument.

if the argument was originally intended to be "why dayne won't be an nfl player" than i can see using that criteria, but i read it as dayne is not talented.

 

[Irish Insanity]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Congrats to QB Dayne Crist on re-signing with the <a href="https://twitter.com/Ravens">@Ravens</a>!! <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23nfljayhawks&src=hash">#nfljayhawks</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23kufball&src=hash">#kufball</a></p>— Kansas Football (@KU_Football) <a href="https://twitter.com/KU_Football/statuses/371671638636388353">August 25, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[phgreek]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Congrats to QB Dayne Crist on re-signing with the <a href="https://twitter.com/Ravens">@Ravens</a>!! <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23nfljayhawks&src=hash">#nfljayhawks</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23kufball&src=hash">#kufball</a></p>— Kansas Football (@KU_Football) <a href="https://twitter.com/KU_Football/statuses/371671638636388353">August 25, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Hell Yes!

 

[BobD]

I saw this and thought "good for him!", then I thought 49ers vs Ravens in the Super Bowl again with Dayne at QB "good for me!" I'm a terrible person.

 

[dshans]

I'm a terrible person.

Were you (ever) in doubt? Not me.



Oh, wait. I was thinking of myself ...

 

[dublinirish]

great news for him

 

[Buster Bluth]

Awesome!

Does this mean he makes the final 54-man roster?

 

[KPENN]

Awesome!

Does this mean he makes the final 54-man roster?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>The Dayne Crist signing follows Tyrod Taylor dealing with concussion symptoms, so needed a quarterback for final preseason game</p>— Aaron Wilson (@RavensInsider) <a href="https://twitter.com/RavensInsider/statuses/371661794122559490">August 25, 2013</a></blockquote>
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