Best case scenario for you guys is that he keeps winning between 8-10 games a year over the next 3-4 years and the program doesn't totally crater.
I highly doubt it (unless there is more going on behind the scenes than purple-face BK screaming at players on the sideline). However, it might be worth a booster or two consulting with an attorney about.
If I had to try and compare Saban to BK. I'd call his stint at LSU the same as BK stint at ND. The problem is BK didn't really do anything spectacular in 12 years except make it to a few big games only to get blown out. Saban wasn't great at Mich St., but then really got the ball rolling at LSU before moving on to Bama. BK never "really got the ball rolling at ND" I know we had some great seasons and he definitely stabilized the program. But even those 2017 - 2021 teams that finished with 1, 2 or 3 losses. ALL those losses were always the good games vs good teams he lost to UGA twice, Miami, Clemson, Michigan, Bama and Stanford. All ranked and very good opponents, and then on the flip side when he'd finally beat a ranked team....They'd be teams like Syracuse, Navy, NC State, USC, Vat tech. His best win at the end of his ND career was a dog fight against a banged up Clemson that went on to get the last laugh. In short, he's a fraud in my book as he wins the games he's supposed to and never the ones that matter.
Not to detract from what you said, because it is all very true. But I would say BKs best win was against Michigan St. in 2013. It's a hindsight win because they were nobodies when we played (probably a good thing for us). But they ended up winning every other game and finishing 3rd overall. That was probably the most talented team he beat.
The portal will give him a chance to get things stabilized. Might need to bring in some RKG'sNot to mention Saban was ascending and still not a household name to many CFB fans, BK is an old head that has been established for years.
The program level and expectations at LSU when Saban was hired is not even 1/10 of what is was when BK was hired, you got that right.
And right on cue, as prophesied yesterday, it begins!!!!
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That's a good point, I'd agree with that and the Oklahoma game. But I was more focused on the 2017 through the end of his tenure. It felt like a gut punch when he left because we were rolling, but looking back....Not really. Recruiting felt blah, our wins felt blah and even our losses felt like we knew it would happen. I'm just glad he's gone and can underperform elsewhere.
I’ll expound later (as I’m on my phone waiting to get a haircut), but I think calling him a fraud is a little harsh. He’s won over 200+ games. He had ND in the NC and additionally in two Playoff (i.e., “Final 4”) appearances. The year he left ND for LSU, he assembled a pretty good team as well.
Oklahoma 2012, that is all I got...
I think you’re forgetting someone else who was hired at a fairly high profile job that same year…but their name just isn’t coming to my dome at the moment…
Um…
I agree, although I might replace Weis with Davie in the fraud department. Weis and Kelly both had areas they struggled with, but I think Weis did some good things to elevate the program a bit. I think Weis also got hamstrung by Willingham's poor recruiting, which caught up with him in 2007.
On so many levels, the first time BK has been a true "fraud" is at LSU. And that's because he transparently took the $100M guaranteed money with no intent of doing more than the bare minimum. And you saw that with his retread hires, etc.
I doubt it. That would be a step back for Rees, and he'd be walking into a shit situation that there may be no coming back from. Better to stay in the NFL with the Browns of all teams. They're in a rebuild phase, which could look good for the resume if they improve from this year (Won't be hard to do).
I agree that calling him a fraud is pretty harsh, but I'll stand by my comment. ND under BK rarely ever showed up in big games. And after the ass kicking we'd all have to go hear how they were overrated and undeserving of their rank at the time. That screams fraud to me. Also, you forgot Dan Lanning who's 33-5 at Oregon since he was hired in 2022.
Not to be a prick, but Kelly went 54-9 his final 5 years at ND. Oregon went 5-5 and 6-6 his last 2 years. Do you honestly think we could have gotten him at a bargain? I mean, we got him from Notre Dame, not North Dakota State….
I'm guessing spell check changed Orgeron to Oregon, cause for a second I was like "You've got your Kelly's mixed up."
