College Athletics Branding - Name Image Likeness Rules

[jprue24]

Also, this sounds like the "Who the Hell ever needs High School?" scenario. What in the world (other than education laws) would ever stop a huge number of potential pro/college (no difference now) athletes from only being parts of Pro-Prep teams without even the illusion of attending school? It is my out-of-date belief that going to school markedly helps certain people with Life and social-integrating skills and a touch of reality. .... but who the hell cares, I guess. Hey, baby, it's MONEY.

We have examples of what this could look like.

MLS teams have been running academies for....I wanna say a decade. European soccer clubs have been doing it for decades. Here is an article about how it works.

Where MLS academies are in 2021 – and how they're fueling Canada, USA ambitions | MLSSoccer.com

There are only eight countries to have ever won the World Cup. Every single one of them had two things in common: 1. They had a well-supported domestic league, and 2. That domestic league churned out talent for the national team. Forget about winning the World Cup: If you even

www.mlssoccer.com

Consider this, the NCAA college athletics system is built on the foundation that a college education is fair compensation for the athlete. We know that for the vast majority of college athletes this is a great deal. But for a significant number of athletes, this is a poor deal. The amount of money their work generates far outstrips the cost of an education. Compound that onto the reality that the NCAA has severely restrict or prohibited from developing revenue streams and it's not hard to see the appeal of "who the hell needs school". Especially when school will always be there, the ability to play high level sports won't (unless you are a freak like Brady, Lebron, or Kareem).

 

[Old Man Mike]

I'm talking mainly about skipping high school.

 

[stlnd01]

I'm talking mainly about skipping high school.

The funny thing is the trend is almost the opposite.

More and more elite football recruits are coming out of prep/private/Catholic schools that offer better coaching/facilities than your typical public high school will in many parts of the country. They also tend to offer anywhere from better-than-average to elite academics. With a price tag to match. (I realize many of these elite athletes aren't paying full tuition but someone's writing the check, and they do tend to value education or why would they be involved with these schools in the first place?).

Maybe something like the European club soccer model could work in American football but why would they bother when the careers are so short and you don't have anywhere near the broad demand for players at the professional level, just 32 teams in the market for 52 guys apiece. It's not worth the investment. Especially when you have college football to develop players for you.

 

[Irish#1]

The funny thing is the trend is almost the opposite.

More and more elite football recruits are coming out of prep/private/Catholic schools that offer better coaching/facilities than your typical public high school will in many parts of the country. They also tend to offer anywhere from better-than-average to elite academics. With a price tag to match. (I realize many of these elite athletes aren't paying full tuition but someone's writing the check, and they do tend to value education or why would they be involved with these schools in the first place?).

Maybe something like the European club soccer model could work in American football but why would they bother when the careers are so short and you don't have anywhere near the broad demand for players at the professional level, just 32 teams in the market for 52 guys apiece. It's not worth the investment. Especially when you have college football to develop players for you.

How does IMG's academics rank?

Am I crazy for trying to work some NIL deal with Little Debbie for my local youth FB team? lol

 

[Huntr]

IDK if y'all know of this twitter acct, but ND's FUND has one and they often RT stuff from players doing who're doing their volunteer work.

https://twitter.com/FUNDFoundation1

Here's stuff from Fisher and Correll from today.

 

[Old Man Mike]

Looks like Joe Alt went with them too. Way to go, Big'uns.

 

[jprue24]

IDK if y'all know of this twitter acct, but ND's FUND has one and they often RT stuff from players doing who're doing their volunteer work.

https://twitter.com/FUNDFoundation1

Here's stuff from Fisher and Correll from today.

I know they are getting compensated, but I hope this helps inspire all the players to a life of consistently volunteering to help, enrich, provide for, etc., the communities they are a part of.

 

[SouthSideChiDomer]

I don't have the premium so I can't give the whole story, but we got some guys doing NIL deals with a church haha.

Here's an NIL deal with a church looks like:

A church in Indiana is going to bring in athletes to sign autographs at a service. I talked to the folks who made it happen:

www.extrapointsmb.com

 

[Luckylucci]

Clemson tampering confirmed

 

[jprue24]

Clemson tampering confirmed

"Illegal use of the sarcasm font"

 

[notredomer23]

I’m getting ads for FSU’s collective on IE

 

[SDIrishFan]

I’m getting ads for FSU’s collective on IE

Keep clicking on them and exhausted their PPC budget, haha.

 

[GoldenAura]

Any word on congressional legislation these days? This is just ridiculous.

Alabama's Nick Saban rejected 2 players who were searching for $1.3 million combined in NIL money: report | Fox News

It's believed the current player is a starting offensive lineman

www.foxnews.com

"Someone with one of the best corners in the nation (in high school) came to me and asked if we’d pay them $800,000 for the player to sign here. I told him he can find another place to play.......I’m not paying a kid a bunch of NIL money before he earns it."

"One of them wanted $500,000 and for us to get his girlfriend into law school at Alabama and pay for it. I showed him the door." Saban reportedly said."

 

[Bishop2b5]

Any word on congressional legislation these days? This is just ridiculous.

Alabama's Nick Saban rejected 2 players who were searching for $1.3 million combined in NIL money: report | Fox News

It's believed the current player is a starting offensive lineman

www.foxnews.com

"Someone with one of the best corners in the nation (in high school) came to me and asked if we’d pay them $800,000 for the player to sign here. I told him he can find another place to play.......I’m not paying a kid a bunch of NIL money before he earns it."

"One of them wanted $500,000 and for us to get his girlfriend into law school at Alabama and pay for it. I showed him the door." Saban reportedly said."

I'm glad that was Saban's response. This sort of nonsense has gotten out of hand. This is NOT what NIL was supposed to be.

 

[Sea Turtle]

Any word on congressional legislation these days? This is just ridiculous.

Alabama's Nick Saban rejected 2 players who were searching for $1.3 million combined in NIL money: report | Fox News

It's believed the current player is a starting offensive lineman

www.foxnews.com

"Someone with one of the best corners in the nation (in high school) came to me and asked if we’d pay them $800,000 for the player to sign here. I told him he can find another place to play.......I’m not paying a kid a bunch of NIL money before he earns it."

"One of them wanted $500,000 and for us to get his girlfriend into law school at Alabama and pay for it. I showed him the door." Saban reportedly said."

Good.

 

[irishff1014]

Jamie and Greg have some good points

 

[Huntr]

 

[irishog77]

What's the last I for in NILI?

Or is that like when Homer added the extra B to BYOB in the Simpsons?

 

[clashmore_mike]

What's the last I for in NILI?

Or is that like when Homer added the extra B to BYOB in the Simpsons?

Ideas

 

[Irish#1]

Any word on congressional legislation these days? This is just ridiculous.

Alabama's Nick Saban rejected 2 players who were searching for $1.3 million combined in NIL money: report | Fox News

It's believed the current player is a starting offensive lineman

www.foxnews.com

"Someone with one of the best corners in the nation (in high school) came to me and asked if we’d pay them $800,000 for the player to sign here. I told him he can find another place to play.......I’m not paying a kid a bunch of NIL money before he earns it."

"One of them wanted $500,000 and for us to get his girlfriend into law school at Alabama and pay for it. I showed him the door." Saban reportedly said."

When the king of CFB does this, it has to resonate down the line.

The end result of the Jaden Rashada recruit should also send a message to recruits. He gets demanding with his $13.85M deal and ends up at ASU with no NIL deal.

 

[irishff1014]

When the king of CFB does this, it has to resonate down the line.

The end result of the Jaden Rashada recruit should also send a message to recruits. He gets demanding with his $13.85M deal and ends up at ASU with no NIL deal.

I am glad this blew up in his and his families face. But he is still getting publicity because of it. Hopefully the negative side of this opens some kids eyes.

 

[notredomer23]

When the king of CFB does this, it has to resonate down the line.

The end result of the Jaden Rashada recruit should also send a message to recruits. He gets demanding with his $13.85M deal and ends up at ASU with no NIL deal.

The problem is, the king of CFB is lying. Everyone knows and admits it's a problem and pretend they don't do it, but they all do it.

 

[Huntr]

Article I thought was interesting on determining player/position value for NIL and why the Rashada deal with UF was so dumb.

 

[IrishLax]

Article I thought was interesting on determining player/position value for NIL and why the Rashada deal with UF was so dumb.

This is really interesting, and I'd argue that a deeper dive into positional value would probably trend towards the following rules of thumb:
1. Established players in the portal are worth a LOT more than HS recruits. They are short term vs long term solutions, but unbelievably impactful for 1-2 years if handled correctly. The bust rate on HS prospects will be as bad or worse than the NFL, and the salary numbers are out-of-whack when comparing players on second contracts in the NFL to what are essentially draft picks.
2. RBs will have more value in CFB than they do in the NFL. The NFL only has 32 teams and the dropoff in talent from RB1 to RB32 isn't steep when you have guys that are able to play 5+ years. The dropoff from Bijan Robinson/Blake Corum to the guys ranked in the 30s per PFF is massive. You're talking about guys who are either super productive or top NFL draft prospects to guys that won't even sign UDFA deals.

When managing a roster, you likely want to allocate booster funds as follows:
1. QB. Spend whatever it takes to get "the guy."
2. Leftover money is best spent on skill players and linemen. Established linemen are better than prospects.
3. It's going to be very hard to spend your way into an elite defense because you need 11 guys without glaring holes, whereas on offense 2-3 top skill players is all you need. Try to recruit athletes/projects on that side of the ball without over-spending. If you are going to spend, do it on DL.

 

[IrishLax]

Ruiz calls the NCAA “retarded” in his response lol… he also threatened that if they come after his NIL deals he is going to destroy them in court.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

 

[Irishbounty28]

Looks like a booster paid for a meal? Meanwhile Texas A&M football is giving signing bonuses. Lol

 

[notredomer23]

Great butts

 

[Irish4life]

Born in South Bend, Indiana btw

 

[NorthDakota]

Born in South Bend, Indiana btw

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