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[IrishLion]

Wow, WandaVision really did end up being amazing.

The first two or three episodes in a vacuum wouldn’t hold up to anything... but in the context of the whole series, they are retroactively really good?

Super strong close to the show, really did Wanda justice by turning her into a legitimate superhero through her own trials.

That post-credit scene after the finale though... what does it mean??? Is she learning to be the Scarlett Witch, aka learning how to play the multiverse to get the kids back?

And where did the homie White Vision go?

Lastly, I love how they built up the mystery and delivered it all in the last two episodes. Felt like a really satisfying payoff, in a different way than Falcon and the Winter Soldier.

 

[BobbyMac]

Wow, WandaVision really did end up being amazing.

The first two or three episodes in a vacuum wouldn’t hold up to anything... but in the context of the whole series, they are retroactively really good?

Super strong close to the show, really did Wanda justice by turning her into a legitimate superhero through her own trials.

That post-credit scene after the finale though... what does it mean??? Is she learning to be the Scarlett Witch, aka learning how to play the multiverse to get the kids back?

And where did the homie White Vision go?

Lastly, I love how they built up the mystery and delivered it all in the last two episodes. Felt like a really satisfying payoff, in a different way than Falcon and the Winter Soldier.

I could've done the first 3 episodes in 1.5 tops and of course then there's the whole... Kat's not in a tight turtleneck issue that went unresolved.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Wow, WandaVision really did end up being amazing.

The first two or three episodes in a vacuum wouldn’t hold up to anything... but in the context of the whole series, they are retroactively really good?

Super strong close to the show, really did Wanda justice by turning her into a legitimate superhero through her own trials.

That post-credit scene after the finale though... what does it mean??? Is she learning to be the Scarlett Witch, aka learning how to play the multiverse to get the kids back?

And where did the homie White Vision go?

Lastly, I love how they built up the mystery and delivered it all in the last two episodes. Felt like a really satisfying payoff, in a different way than Falcon and the Winter Soldier.

Wanda is the Nexus being (the anti depression commercial refs this) for the main MCU timeline. Her studying and using the Darkhold by herself is very dangerous. She could be being manipulated by Chthonic or some other dark magical entity by doing this. Her hearing her kids likely from another timeline or universe probably sets her off into the multiverse to find them and Dr. Strange had to stop her. Also she was able to stay conscious while she astral projected. Dr. Strange can’t even do that (yet).

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Fun fact .... in the comics Agatha Harkness was the Richards Family babysitter for a time.

 

[Sea Turtle]

Is Anime included in this thread?

 

[calvegas04]

LOKI

 

[IrishLion]

Disney+ is amazing… instead of post-credit scenes and one-shot teasers, we get ENTIRE SHOWS to prime the next developments in Phase 4.

Loki spoilers:




if that were phase 1-3, the entirety of Loki season one would’ve been condensed into a 4-minute conversation in a post-credits scene, where Immortus/Kang explains the dangers of branching timelines causing multiversal conflicts, with Loki needing to make a decision on how to proceed. Then Sylvie would show up wearing the Loki horns and wielding his daggers just so you know exactly who she’s supposed to be, she would then knife Kang, and make a snide comment about being the real Loki with long-term vision. Then the camera would pan out of the window of the Citadel, through space, and settle on an alternate version of Kang already zeroing in on Earth 616 or something.

 

[calvegas04]

I think we will still have post credit scenes, even these new shows have had them

 

[Irishnuke]

I really loved Loki. I know the finale is going to leave a lot of people confused and I've seen people complaining about the amount of exposition, but I think it was a great finale. They were never going to neatly wrap things up. There was always going to be a cliffhanger. And holy shit was that a cliffhanger. The MCU is about to get cray cray.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

LOKI SEASON. Dont read unless you seen the full season.

Spoiler

I got to say I loved this show. Super important moving forward and..... KANG the CONQUERER!
I have quetions though:
If Kang (I think he was the Immortus character that got killed by Sophie) was controlling the Main MCU Cinematic timeline the whole time, and this show had the 2012 Avengers Loki disrupt the timeline, when did the post Avengers MCU branch? How much did the ANcient One know about this? Dr. Strange?

Gotta think they are heading towards Dr. Doom setting up Secret Wars. Kang is a BAMF.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

I really loved Loki. I know the finale is going to leave a lot of people confused and I've seen people complaining about the amount of exposition, but I think it was a great finale. They were never going to neatly wrap things up. There was always going to be a cliffhanger. And holy shit was that a cliffhanger. The MCU is about to get cray cray.

Gotta think that the finale has allowed for all the other Marvel movies to become canon. Feige is a genius.

 

[zelezo vlk]

I didn't realize we have a spoiler tag, that's great.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Does anyone watch these videos by this guy. I generally love his videos but man can he talk.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

I didn't realize we have a spoiler tag, that's great.

I think the cats out of the bag but Ima try to keep as much spoiler free in this thread as I can.

 

[IrishLion]

LOKI SEASON. Dont read unless you seen the full season.

Spoiler

I got to say I loved this show. Super important moving forward and..... KANG the CONQUERER!
I have quetions though:
If Kang (I think he was the Immortus character that got killed by Sophie) was controlling the Main MCU Cinematic timeline the whole time, and this show had the 2012 Avengers Loki disrupt the timeline, when did the post Avengers MCU branch? How much did the Ancient One know about this? Dr. Strange?

Gotta think they are heading towards Dr. Doom setting up Secret Wars. Kang is a BAMF.

I'd imagine Loki 2012 getting away with the Tesseract, kicking off the 'Loki' show, would have been an alternate reality, since the Avengers were still able to move forward and stop Thanos in Endgame.

The TVA stepped in to stop Loki's branch reality, since he escaped during the Endgame time heist when he wasn't supposed to.

BUT THEN 2012-Variant-Loki gets involved with the TVA, and

Spoiler

suddenly we find that Immortus has orchestrated everything to try and stop a multiversal war, but Sylvie-Variant-Loki can't help her nature, kills him, and sends the multiverse into chaos. So I don't think the post-Avengers MCU ever branched, technically... an alternate timeline branched as part of Immortus' final play to retire, but it didn't work, and now instead of worrying about time branches, we're worrying about overlapping universes... and I guess now that explains why the end of Wandavision was significant, as well as what we know about the next Spider-Man movie, and of course there's the title of the next Doctor Strange...

I didn't know how Marvel could possibly build back up after everything they accomplished with the Infinity Saga; it didn't seem like there could be a crisis that would rival the Snap, or a big-bad that could rival Thanos...

And yet, 6 episodes of a single tv show, supported by another series and some info we know about future installments, and suddenly everything feels like it's on the edge of disaster once again. Amazing.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

I'd imagine Loki 2012 getting away with the Tesseract, kicking off the 'Loki' show, would have been an alternate reality, since the Avengers were still able to move forward and stop Thanos in Endgame.

The TVA stepped in to stop Loki's branch reality, since he escaped during the Endgame time heist when he wasn't supposed to.

BUT THEN 2012-Variant-Loki gets involved with the TVA, and

Spoiler

suddenly we find that Immortus has orchestrated everything to try and stop a multiversal war, but Sylvie-Variant-Loki can't help her nature, kills him, and sends the multiverse into chaos. So I don't think the post-Avengers MCU ever branched, technically... an alternate timeline branched as part of Immortus' final play to retire, but it didn't work, and now instead of worrying about time branches, we're worrying about overlapping universes... and I guess now that explains why the end of Wandavision was significant, as well as what we know about the next Spider-Man movie, and of course there's the title of the next Doctor Strange...

I didn't know how Marvel could possibly build back up after everything they accomplished with the Infinity Saga; it didn't seem like there could be a crisis that would rival the Snap, or a big-bad that could rival Thanos...

And yet, 6 episodes of a single tv show, supported by another series and some info we know about future installments, and suddenly everything feels like it's on the edge of disaster once again. Amazing.

I agree with this.

I definitely think he next issue will be Battleworld/Secret Wars
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret...15_comic_book)

 

[IrishLion]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret...15_comic_book)

Semi-related, I've been wondering if Wandavision was a stand-in for 'House of M,' or if there will be ANOTHER Wanda Maximoff mental breakdown or crisis of uncontrolled power in the future.

Spoiler

Now that the MCU is almost completely open in terms of IP, you could have Magneto and Quicksilver show up in a Scarlet Witch movie/show down the road. And it seems like Wanda might be using the Darkhold to connect to alternate realities to try and get her family back, based on the post-credits scene in Wandavision. So maybe she has another breakdown trying to get them back in her own show/movie, or maybe not another breakdown but unleashes power she can't control, and instead of creating a hex, she defies Doctor Strange and alters reality itself, which opens the way for a Magneto/X-Men movie about how things have changed in Wanda's new world. Then you get Magneto with his alternate reality family, mutants taking the place of humans, mutant population being decimated, etc. So many options!

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Semi-related, I've been wondering if Wandavision was a stand-in for 'House of M,' or if there will be ANOTHER Wanda Maximoff mental breakdown or crisis of uncontrolled power in the future.

Spoiler

Now that the MCU is almost completely open in terms of IP, you could have Magneto and Quicksilver show up in a Scarlet Witch movie/show down the road. And it seems like Wanda might be using the Darkhold to connect to alternate realities to try and get her family back, based on the post-credits scene in Wandavision. So maybe she has another breakdown trying to get them back in her own show/movie, or maybe not another breakdown but unleashes power she can't control, and instead of creating a hex, she defies Doctor Strange and alters reality itself, which opens the way for a Magneto/X-Men movie about how things have changed in Wanda's new world. Then you get Magneto with his alternate reality family, mutants taking the place of humans, mutant population being decimated, etc. So many options!

My hope is that its not and that they will do the full story justice. Hard to say but thats an amazing story and it cant be done well without "M". PLus I JUST HAVE BELIEVE that Boner will have more meaning than just what he appeared to be in WV.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

I recently saw Black Widow and my thoughts are that it was exactly the movie it should have been to close her story out. I thought it was great from that point of view.

 

[ACamp1900]

Bought a ton of Donald Duck and Uncle Scrooge comics at an antique mall,… I’ll go through them in more detail this weekend…

 

[Irishnuke]

I thought Black Widow was pretty meh. I think it was a great introduction to Yelena but at the same time they completely f’n ruined Taskmaster. That was a huge disappointment.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

I thought Black Widow was pretty meh. I think it was a great introduction to Yelena but at the same time they completely f’n ruined Taskmaster. That was a huge disappointment.

Agree on that point. But look at it this way now they can just go into the multiverse to fix everything chefs kiss

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/bpanthernews/status/1420167446862852097[/TWEET]
Gotta be Namor right?

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/MarvelStudios/status/1420398649406758925[/TWEET] God I hope this is good.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Went to see Eternals. No spoilers but I get the feeling the Earth is going to become like Walter Whites car over the course of Breaking Bad. Lol.

 

[zelezo vlk]

What'd you think? The reviews I saw were careful not to pan it but at the same time, they were not impressed.

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[Cackalacky2.0]

What'd you think? The reviews I saw were careful not to pan it but at the same time, they were not impressed.

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I’m probably not the best person to ask if you are the fence about spending the money to go and see it. I personally don’t give a shit about critic reviews or fanboy reviews or the people who intentionally downvotes it for politics reasons.

Marvel movies are a family thing for us and we go see everyone and we spend a night out discussing and hanging out. Marvel movies are like family game board night for us.

As far as my opinion goes it’s a different kind of movie. Lots of lore that really expands the scope and scale of the MCU to date. I personally love this stuff. The visuals were amazing. I was wondering how they were going to scale humans and earth against what happens and it was amazing. Awesome job. Several things happen that will forever change the MCU. So again I loved all of that. There’s was some clunk ones in parts and there is a part I know many many people will hate just because but again I see it all the time so it’s not a huge deal for me or my family.

The action was cool. I love the way they took all the earth’s mythologies and history and melded them into the story. Again it’s a huge scale and puts Earth and humans in a very special place in the universe which I think we all can agree on it is

Id recommend it personally because of the lore and visuals alone.

 

[Irishnuke]

I'll probably go and see it Tuesday night to see if I can take my kids. I read some reviews that make question whether I should take them or not. Apparently there is a "sex scene." I know it's PG-13 so they can't really show a lot but I just have to question why it's in a Marvel movie to begin with. If you're going to make 24/25 movies in a shared universe with none of them having a sex scene, why add it now? I don't have a problem with adding those to an R rated movie, but Disney knows that kids watch these movies with their parents. Cack I don't know how old your kids are, but what did you think about that?

 

[Irishnuke]

Venom 2 was a disappointment other than the end credit scene. Morbius looks promising but it's confusing in what timeline it's taking place. [TWEET]https://twitter.com/MoviesMatrix/status/1455521267767971842[/TWEET]

 

[zelezo vlk]

Alright cool. Still not planning on seeing it in theaters, but may give it a shot on D+ when it comes out. Thanks Cack