Throwing a Hail Mary: Need Help

[wizards8507]

Steel, do you like being a middle school English teacher? If so, why compromise? I think it would be a much better fit to move to a different city to do the thing you love than to stay where you are and completely jump careers, contrary to your education and experience.

 

[tussin]

I hear ya. I think it's "grass isn't always greener" type thing though. Teaching is a calling that you can take pride in. You're respected and you are doing work worth doing. Getting $10k-$15k more a year and sitting behind a desk isn't going to fill the hole left by not doing a job that has meaning.

I agree with this.

Both of my parents were teachers... my dad focused on his real estate business in the summer. At his peak, he owned about 15 duplexes.

 

[IrishLion]

and realized that I would never have to buy a lady a drink in order to get a blowjob again.

Let's be real. You're still buying her drinks for blowjobs.

It's just that "drinks" are now "chores around the house."

 

[Emcee77]

I agree with this.

Both of my parents were teachers... my dad focused on his real estate business in the summer. At his peak, he owned about 15 duplexes.

That's another great idea, in addition to wooly's summer business ideas.

I know this guy who worked as a medical device salesman for about 15 years, and all the while he saved money to buy rental properties. I asked him why he would mess with the real estate rental business when he had more than enough on his plate, work wise, and made plenty of money, and his response was that there is only so far he feels he can go in the medical device world, since he has no educational background that relates to medical technology, but the sky's the limit in the landlord business, which requires no specialized formal education, plus he gets to be his own boss that way. It turned out to be a pretty shrewd move; he's killing it now.

 

[ulukinatme]

Don't have any suggestions for Steelhead as I work in Corporate America and it's certainly not fulfilling and doesn't always pay exceptionally better. I will echo what others have said in the other discussion, kids and marriage has been great for me. While kids can be incredibly frustrating at times, I've known no greater joy than being a parent. I remember a lot of shitty nights when I'd work 3rd shift. I'd come home, collapse on the couch, and my wife would come down carrying out daughter. My daughter's face would light up when she'd see me, and that was enough to totally turn around my day. You don't know that kind of love till you experience it first hand. It's certainly not for everyone though, and it's a lot more responsibility, but it's rewarding.

 

[dublinirish]

Don't have any suggestions for Steelhead as I work in Corporate America and it's certainly not fulfilling and doesn't always pay exceptionally better. I will echo what others have said in the other discussion, kids and marriage has been great for me. While kids can be incredibly frustrating at times, I've known no greater joy than being a parent. I remember a lot of shitty nights when I'd work 3rd shift. I'd come home, collapse on the couch, and my wife would come down carrying out daughter. My daughter's face would light up when she'd see me, and that was enough to totally turn around my day. You don't know that kind of love till you experience it first hand. It's certainly not for everyone though, and it's a lot more responsibility, but it's rewarding.

i would echo these thoughts, my daughter just turned 8 months old and she is without a shadow of a doubt my greatest achievement in life. Walking in the door every evening is just the greatest feeling seeing her face light up. It's just priceless, no house, car, boat or TV can compare to that.

 

[ulukinatme]

i would echo these thoughts, my daughter just turned 8 months old and she is without a shadow of a doubt my greatest achievement in life. Walking in the door every evening is just the greatest feeling seeing her face light up. It's just priceless, no house, car, boat or TV can compare to that.

Well said. At the end of the day cars all rust, TVs get replaced with newer TVs, and houses crumble or are sold. Material possessions provide temporary happiness. When you have a child that bond lasts a lifetime though.

 

[Monk]

i would echo these thoughts, my daughter just turned 8 months old and she is without a shadow of a doubt my greatest achievement in life. Walking in the door every evening is just the greatest feeling seeing her face light up. It's just priceless, no house, car, boat or TV can compare to that.

Yea, my sons run to the door yelling for me when I get home. There are a lot of frustrations, but the positive has exponentially out weighed the negative. The only thing that I could think of that would make me regret having kids is losing one. I don't know if I could handle that. Sorry, I took a depressing side note there.

 

[ACamp1900]

6th grade ELA, but have done all other subjects in the past. I tutored for a company once, doing SAT prep for high schoolers. Private tutoring is definitely the way to go. I was making about $20 an hour after the company got their cut. Bartending here and there has netted more.

okay, now I have to ask... you ever lay carpet or work fiber glass tubs or pizza delivery while paying for college.... any of those??

Our work history thus far is creepy similar.

 

[connor_in]

okay, now I have to ask... you ever lay carpet or work fiber glass tubs or pizza delivery while paying for college.... any of those??

Our work history thus far is creepy similar.

Half of those jobs sound like the cast list for hardcore

 

[ACamp1900]

Half of those jobs sound like the cast list for hardcore

I also managed a produce department........... and worked as a video store clerk......

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Throwing a Hail Mary: Need Help

okay, now I have to ask... you ever lay carpet or work fiber glass tubs or pizza delivery while paying for college.... any of those??



Our work history thus far is creepy similar.

During college, I worked in a semi-trailer manufacturing plant, and also did fund raising for the school on the side

 

[Booslum31]

During college, I worked in a semi-trailer manufacturing plant, and also did fund raising for the school on the side

If you were successful in Fund Raising...you would be successful in sales.

 

[Monk]

okay, now I have to ask... you ever lay carpet or work fiber glass tubs or pizza delivery while paying for college.... any of those??

Our work history thus far is creepy similar.

Actually I'm starting to think he's my wife. She was a 6th grade ELA teacher for about 5 years or so then was moved to 5th grade elementary this past year. The elementary school is changing things next year to make 5th grade more like middle school/junior high so she will be teaching ELA again. She also bartended before we had kids and through college.

Stop spying on me.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Actually I'm starting to think he's my wife. She was a 6th grade ELA teacher for about 5 years or so then was moved to 5th grade elementary this past year. The elementary school is changing things next year to make 5th grade more like middle school/junior high so she will be teaching ELA again. She also bartended before we had kids and through college.



Stop spying on me.

The traditional middle school model of 6/7/8th grade having multiple transitions to different rooms for different subjects has given way to what they call "Intermediate School." That's 5/6th grade in a self-contained room all day, just like elementary. We slightly departmentalized it (I see two different groups, an AM and PM) just to help our sanity a little bit. 6th graders are WAY too old to sit in the same room all day.

 

[ACamp1900]

When I taught 6th grade it was a 6th grade only school, meaning the entire campus... just 6th graders... There were rotations.

 

[phgreek]

Let's be real. You're still buying her drinks for blowjobs.

It's just that "drinks" are now "chores around the house."

ya know...there is more than a little truth to that...at least for me.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Throwing a Hail Mary: Need Help

When I taught 6th grade it was a 6th grade only school, meaning the entire campus... just 6th graders... There were rotations.

I've done 6th grade social studies at the middle school level, so I taught six 50 minute periods. Best job I've ever had. The curriculum was ancient civilizations, which I love, so I was basically getting paid to talk about cool stuff that interested me, and assigning kickass projects dealing with it. One of the options I'm considering is getting my secondary cert so I can do that again.

 

[woolybug25]

Since we are off topic and Steel seems good with it, I want to pose a question to you teachers.

In my town, 8th graders go to High School. What are your thoughts on that?

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Throwing a Hail Mary: Need Help

Since we are off topic and Steel seems good with it, I want to pose a question to you teachers.

In my town, 8th graders go to High School. What are your thoughts on that?

I'm pretty good at getting off topic in other people's threads, so I can't complain. 8th grade is too young for HS IMO. My high school was 9-12, but there was a freshman building on the side, so if an upperclassman was an idiot, or a freshman was smart, they would switch buildings during passing periods. Still remember sitting in class with senior football players as a wet behind the ears 9th grader wondering if I was going to be eaten. Made it difficult to focus.

 

[pumpdog20]

get an accounting degree, moved to Des Moines and work for an insurance/financial company. You'll have all the upward mobility you want, with a small town feel.

 

[woolybug25]

I'm pretty good at getting off topic in other people's threads, so I can't complain. 8th grade is too young for HS IMO. My high school was 9-12, but there was a freshman building on the side, so if an upperclassman was an idiot, or a freshman was smart, they would switch buildings during passing periods. Still remember sitting in class with senior football players as a wet behind the ears 9th grader wondering if I was going to be eaten. Made it difficult to focus.

Yeah, the 8th graders are in a different wing and have a separate entrance as well. But I worry about them still interacting. I remember when I was a high schooler, there was a senior that took a freshman to prom. The senior was 18 and the freshman girl was 14. It creaped me the hell out and I couldn't believe the girl's parents were ok with it.

While that is creepy, the idea of an 18 year old creeping on a 13 year old 8th grader seems criminal.

 

[phgreek]

Yeah, the 8th graders are in a different wing and have a separate entrance as well. But I worry about them still interacting. I remember when I was a high schooler, there was a senior that took a freshman to prom. The senior was 18 and the freshman girl was 14. It creaped me the hell out and I couldn't believe the girl's parents were ok with it.

While that is creepy, the idea of an 18 year old creeping on a 13 year old 8th grader seems criminal.

its not like they can share a restroom / locker room...wait.

I'm not a teacher...just coach. I'll let teachers decide this. My feeling is 9th grade is a stretch. I worry about all kinds of negative impacts socially and academically stemming from having 8th graders and juniors and seniors around one-another.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Yeah, the 8th graders are in a different wing and have a separate entrance as well. But I worry about them still interacting. I remember when I was a high schooler, there was a senior that took a freshman to prom. The senior was 18 and the freshman girl was 14. It creaped me the hell out and I couldn't believe the girl's parents were ok with it.

While that is creepy, the idea of an 18 year old creeping on a 13 year old 8th grader seems criminal.

Haha. We had a girl (probably 17) bring her 30 year old boyfriend to prom. Dude fit the part too: huge mullet, awful porn stache, and a tux with a cumberbund. This was a tad before stuff like "No 30 year olds allowed at prom, and no 30 year olds dating 17 year olds" was common knowledge/the law.

 

[wizards8507]

Haha. We had a girl (probably 17) bring her 30 year old boyfriend to prom. Dude fit the part too: huge mullet, awful porn stache, and a tux with a cumberbund. This was a tad before stuff like "No 30 year olds allowed at prom, and no 30 year olds dating 17 year olds" was common knowledge/the law.

Half your age plus seven years. The model works flawlessly.

 

[Irish#1]

I went to a junior high (7-9). Those gave way to middle schools (6-8), then freshman academies and intermediate schools. I hear some may go back to middle schools. Sometimes I wonder about school administrators (not teachers).

 

[gkIrish]

Half your age plus seven years. The model works flawlessly.

Yes this is the only acceptable model. I am 28 so the youngest age I can date is 21.

 

[wizards8507]

Yes this is the only acceptable model. I am 28 so the youngest age I can date is 21.

The math breaks down younger than 14, which is perfect. No dating under 14.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Back on topic for a second, I have a question:

(Disclaimer: I understand large companies have numerous departments/divisions/hiring managers, etc., but I'm very ignorant to the overall workings of the business world, so this may sound dumb.)

Is it ever possible to apply for a corporate type job, interview, find out you aren't a good fit, but have them say something like "well you aren't experienced enough in skill X for this job, but we do have (insert lower level job)?" Or is every opening handled by different people and is open and shut?

 

[Ndaccountant]

Back on topic for a second, I have a question:

(Disclaimer: I understand large companies have numerous departments/divisions/hiring managers, etc., but I'm very ignorant to the overall workings of the business world, so this may sound dumb.)

Is it ever possible to apply for a corporate type job, interview, find out you aren't a good fit, but have them say something like "well you aren't experienced enough in skill X for this job, but we do have (insert lower level job)?" Or is every opening handled by different people and is open and shut?

Can only speak on my experiences, but the departments are typically inward focused when it comes to interviews. The only time we have interactions like you detailed is at job fairs, where multiple departments are operating.