'16 GA ATH Demetris Robertson (Georgia Transfer)

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

I think we tend to focus too much on whether someone in Robertson's situation is a 'good' kid. The vast majority of recruits are good kids, especially the ones that take a serious look at Notre Dame and its challenges.

You can still be a good kid and bungle the process, have poor guidance from your family, and generally be confused and unsure of what you want to do and how to go about making the right decision.

Focusing so much on DR being a good kid, of trying to get it right, and doing things on his own timeline kind of misses the point. We, collectively as fans, say those things because it's positive spin while we're still in the running to sign him. And it's also a way to stop people from jumping all over DR for being a flake or a head-case, which in this case specifically, is okay because all indications are that DR hasn't earned that label.

My point would be there are several red flags in this recruitment that should give someone pause. That there's been radio silence for 4 days since learning about his test scores shouldn't surprise anyone. Nearly every indicator for the past 2+ months is pointing towards this not being a well organized decision process with people within DR's circle not completely on the same page. How much of that is naivety vs. nefarious motive I do not know.

What I do know is that going past NSD + poor structure/planning/organization almost never works out for Notre Dame. I think it's okay to point that out. Maybe DR bucks that trend, we'll see.

????

 

[Classic Irish]

It's possible, especially if he's truly looking at engineering. I wonder if they'll tell him that effectively 0% of football players stick in engineering, and the graduation rates at their school are terrible?

I didn't realize their grad rates were poor. The Georgia Tech fans didn't mention that. They spent most of their energy insisting why the top HS WR should feel at home in Paul Johnson's offense (despite their passing offense being ranked 123 out of 127 teams last season).

 

[ND NYC]

this thing is about as chill as it has been for quite some time. I mean it had spidey, donut burgers, and beer being discussed yesterday...

we are certainly in unchartered waters.

be careful out there

 

[Blaise]

I don't worry about him at all... I worry how serious he is about ND but if he chooses us, I don't worry about him being a Lynch.. It's not like he is blasting stuff on his twitter trying to get attention... He is trying to figure out the best place for him... Good for him.. As long as this is wrapped up in Feb.. I am cool with it

 

[gkIrish]

I mostly feel bad for the potential 5th year that doesn't know if he will be asked back because of this.

 

[Irishman77]

I mostly feel bad for the potential 5th year that doesn't know if he will be asked back because of this.

Yep. Also raises bigger concerns for Brent, Holmes, etc...Will they ever get a shot? Do they switch positions? Do they transfer?

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Yep. Also raises bigger concerns for Brent, Holmes, etc...Will they ever get a shot? Do they switch positions? Do they transfer?

Hasn't Brent already switched to RB?

 

[Luckylucci]

I think we tend to focus too much on whether someone in Robertson's situation is a 'good' kid. The vast majority of recruits are good kids, especially the ones that take a serious look at Notre Dame and its challenges.

You can still be a good kid and bungle the process, have poor guidance from your family, and generally be confused and unsure of what you want to do and how to go about making the right decision.

Focusing so much on DR being a good kid, of trying to get it right, and doing things on his own timeline kind of misses the point. We, collectively as fans, say those things because it's positive spin while we're still in the running to sign him. And it's also a way to stop people from jumping all over DR for being a flake or a head-case, which in this case specifically, is okay because all indications are that DR hasn't earned that label.

My point would be there are several red flags in this recruitment that should give someone pause. That there's been radio silence for 4 days since learning about his test scores shouldn't surprise anyone. Nearly every indicator for the past 2+ months is pointing towards this not being a well organized decision process with people within DR's circle not completely on the same page. How much of that is naivety vs. nefarious motive I do not know.

What I do know is that going past NSD + poor structure/planning/organization almost never works out for Notre Dame. I think it's okay to point that out. Maybe DR bucks that trend, we'll see.

Agreed.

 

[Booslum31]

Over 522,000 "views"...It's catching up with the "Politics" and "Word Game" threads. Just crazy. Hoping/praying we land by the end of the weekend!!

 

[Irish#1]

Yep. Also raises bigger concerns for Brent, Holmes, etc...Will they ever get a shot? Do they switch positions? Do they transfer?

Is he even out of BK's doghouse yet?

 

[NDdomer2]

Is he even out of BK's doghouse yet?

I saw Lisa Ann was moving on to Emmanuel Sanders.

 

[GBdomer]

I think we would have heard something if he got into Stanford. Plus with rusty says he doubts the trip happens I'm leaning towards he didn't raise his test score

 

[ginman]

Captain obvious italics were needed for you i presume!

 

[ThePiombino]

I think we would have heard something if he got into Stanford. Plus with rusty says he doubts the trip happens I'm leaning towards he didn't raise his test score

So who's the real threat here? I maintain UGA or Bama which is based on nothing other than my uneducated, biased intuition.

 

[stlnd01]

So who's the real threat here? I maintain UGA or Bama which is based on nothing other than my uneducated, biased intuition.

I'd say UGA.
Bama's always a threat because they're 'Bama. But he's delayed/cancelled visits there several times.
Ga. Tech just seems unlikely. He's a better ballplayer than that.
But there definitely seems some push to stay close to home. Georgia offers a lot on the field. Probably some pressure in that direction from high school coaches, etc. And he seems at least somewhat interested.

If not Stanford, they're the biggest threat, it would seem. If it's down to Notre Dame and Georgia I think it boils down to if he wants to leave home or not.

 

[BobbyMac]

So who's the real threat here? I maintain UGA or Bama which is based on nothing other than my uneducated, biased intuition.

I'd say UGA.
Bama's always a threat because they're 'Bama. But he's delayed/cancelled visits there several times.
If it's down to Notre Dame and Georgia I think it boils down to if he wants to leave home or not.

I agree.

Kirby has infused a lot of hype into the program and I see a lot more of UGA in the recruitniksphere since he got there. Definitely think there is a buzz that's catching on there in the GA, SC, FL & AL area.

 

[SoIll]

5* talent

arguably the most hyped recruit in the last 7-10 years. Its been a long road, but hes worth the wait.

Lets not forget, he's 18 years old. 18

 

[NCND]

I think we tend to focus too much on whether someone in Robertson's situation is a 'good' kid. The vast majority of recruits are good kids, especially the ones that take a serious look at Notre Dame and its challenges.

You can still be a good kid and bungle the process, have poor guidance from your family, and generally be confused and unsure of what you want to do and how to go about making the right decision.

Focusing so much on DR being a good kid, of trying to get it right, and doing things on his own timeline kind of misses the point. We, collectively as fans, say those things because it's positive spin while we're still in the running to sign him. And it's also a way to stop people from jumping all over DR for being a flake or a head-case, which in this case specifically, is okay because all indications are that DR hasn't earned that label.

My point would be there are several red flags in this recruitment that should give someone pause. That there's been radio silence for 4 days since learning about his test scores shouldn't surprise anyone. Nearly every indicator for the past 2+ months is pointing towards this not being a well organized decision process with people within DR's circle not completely on the same page. How much of that is naivety vs. nefarious motive I do not know.

What I do know is that going past NSD + poor structure/planning/organization almost never works out for Notre Dame. I think it's okay to point that out. Maybe DR bucks that trend, we'll see.

Nail meet Head..

 

[ND NYC]

i'll go ahead and say what most are thinking (but some are afraid to say):
clashmore mike and drob are in cahoots and this whole "delay delay delay" tactic is a simple ruse to fill clashmore mikes vbucks coffers with a repayment plan in place down the line.

ive seen it a million times...

 

[TheTurningPoint]

1. The simply doesn't know where he wants to go. So him picking a school bc 4 fanbases want him to decide "now" seems hilarious. He can take his time to make the right decision for him and I respect that, bc it's not a bidding war and he isn't dragging this out to gain attention.

2. As someone mentioned, the complete silence is probably a good thing. He got his scores and now he and his family can make a decision on what the next move is.

A. If he didn't make the score to gain admission to Stanford, does he take them again with the new 1600 scale for the SAT rolling out in March?

B. If he didnt make the score, he can now give Notre Dame, Alabama, Georgia, Georgia Tech and Cal all his attention at this stage if he chooses not to try the SAT again.

C. If he made the score, he can now work with Stanford on when to visit and make arrangements for that to take place.

3. I haven't seen it on IE as much as other boards, but for the "why hasn't he posted his score" crowd...the kid doesn't owe anyone his score other than himself, his family and the schools he applies to. A large portion of kids student-athletes or not, aren't running to Social Media and posting their ACT/SAT test scores for the world to see. He simply doesn't owe anyone that information.

4. Let the kid make the decision that's best for him and his family, despite timelines. His decision isn't impacting schools 2017 recruiting nor is it putting them behind the curveball with PWO's or transfer of 2016. The 5th year options at Notre Dame know where they stand at this stage. I mean for examples sake, John Turner coming back for a 5th year has no correlation with Demetris Robertson choosing or not choosing Notre Dame.

5. If you listened to that sit down interview with Rivals last week, you clearly can tell he hasn't made up his mind yet. His basketball season ended on Friday, so he now has the time to make visits and really dive into his recruitment at this stage.

 

[Irish#1]

1. The simply doesn't know where he wants to go. So him picking a school bc 4 fanbases want him to decide "now" seems hilarious. He can take his time to make the right decision for him and I respect that, bc it's not a bidding war and he isn't dragging this out to gain attention.

2. As someone mentioned, the complete silence is probably a good thing. He got his scores and now he and his family can make a decision on what the next move is.

A. If he didn't make the score to gain admission to Stanford, does he take them again with the new 1600 scale for the SAT rolling out in March?

B. If he didnt make the score, he can now give Notre Dame, Alabama, Georgia, Georgia Tech and Cal all his attention at this stage if he chooses not to try the SAT again.

C. If he made the score, he can now work with Stanford on when to visit and make arrangements for that to take place.

3. I haven't seen it on IE as much as other boards, but for the "why hasn't he posted his score" crowd...the kid doesn't owe anyone his score other than himself, his family and the schools he applies to. A large portion of kids student-athletes or not, aren't running to Social Media and posting their ACT/SAT test scores for the world to see. He simply doesn't owe anyone that information.

4. Let the kid make the decision that's best for him and his family, despite timelines. His decision isn't impacting schools 2017 recruiting nor is it putting them behind the curveball with PWO's or transfer of 2016. The 5th year options at Notre Dame know where they stand at this stage. I mean for examples sake, John Turner coming back for a 5th year has no correlation with Demetris Robertson choosing or not choosing Notre Dame.

5. If you listened to that sit down interview with Rivals last week, you clearly can tell he hasn't made up his mind yet. His basketball season ended on Friday, so he now has the time to make visits and really dive into his recruitment at this stage.

A simple "All is well" would have been preferable. lol

 

[Wingman Ray]

I agree.

Kirby has infused a lot of hype into the program and I see a lot more of UGA in the recruitniksphere since he got there. Definitely think there is a buzz that's catching on there in the GA, SC, FL & AL area.

For the love of God, how can you say it is an academic thing (as in desiring to go to an academic school) and then remotely bring up GA or Bama? Either the whole academic thing was smoking mirrors or those two clown schools arent in the mix. You cant have both.

 

[ND NYC]

For the love of God, how can you say it is an academic thing (as in desiring to go to an academic school) and then remotely bring up GA or Bama? Either the whole academic thing was smoking mirrors or those two clown schools arent in the mix. You cant have both.

DShans, clean up in aisle 9!

 

[IrishLion]

For the love of God, how can you say it is an academic thing (as in desiring to go to an academic school) and then remotely bring up GA or Bama? Either the whole academic thing was smoking mirrors or those two clown schools arent in the mix. You cant have both.

He can have the desire to go to a renowned academic institution like ND or Stanford while also having the desire to stay close to home at a place like Georgia or Bama. He's just got to figure out which he desires more.

 

[Classic Irish]

Ga. Tech just seems unlikely. He's a better ballplayer than that.

Don't tell Georgia Tech fans that. Some Georgia Tech fan on Under the Dome (Rivals' ND site) insists that Georgia Tech's football tradition is on par with ND's. Seriously. The reasons he gives are amusing to say the least.

 

[koonja]

Has anyone checked the student directories? We're losing our touch...

 

[NorthDakota]

Don't tell Georgia Tech fans that. Some Georgia Tech fan on Under the Dome (Rivals' ND site) insists that Georgia Tech's football tradition is on par with ND's. Seriously. The reasons he gives are amusing to say the least.

Isn't the film Rudy about a Georgia Tech QB getting sacked? Notre Dame doesn't have any movies about them.

 

[Cackalacky]

A simple "All is well" would have been preferable. lol

+eleventy billion

 

[Wingman Ray]

He can have the desire to go to a renowned academic institution like ND or Stanford while also having the desire to stay close to home at a place like Georgia or Bama. He's just got to figure out which he desires more.

To my understanding it was 1a) Stanford 1b) ND 2) Everyone else. It was all about the academics. After all, his first choice was a school he had never even seen....

So now after all of this time it is about staying close to home????

 

[phgreek]

He can have the desire to go to a renowned academic institution like ND or Stanford while also having the desire to stay close to home at a place like Georgia or Bama. He's just got to figure out which he desires more.

agree...I think he is doing his diligence, however painful for whatever fan base. He said he was going to do that. I'd rather a kid take longer than change his mind after he sends in paper.

I want a Demetris with no reservations...

I believe the 30 y/o Demetris would tell the 18 y/o Demetris to choose ND. ND has the academics and a pretty good history of putting wideouts in the league if he wants both. Outside that, many of the schools close to home also have a pretty good history of putting wideouts in the league. Unfortunately, 18 y/o Demetris does not have the luxury of talking to 30 y/o Demetris, so I'm happy 18 y/o Demetris is considering ND, and hope he makes a decision that makes him happy.