Lane Kiffin Fired

[ThePiombino]

I hate to take Kiffin's side in anything, but it would really be $hitty if they tried to make Kiffin pay back this note. It's one thing if he leaves; then he's gotta buy them out. But he's getting fired; they should have to buy him out.

Except that those weren't the terms of the deal he reportedly accepted.

 

[Emcee77]

Except that those weren't the terms of the deal he reportedly accepted.

According to the article I was looking at the terms of the deal haven't been confirmed. I'm saying I doubt the deal requires him to pay back the note now, and it would be a $hitty deal if it did. If you are saying that the contract says what it says and if it requires him to pay back the note or give up the house then that's what he has to do, of course I agree.

 

[kmoose]

According to the article I was looking at the terms of the deal haven't been confirmed. I'm saying I doubt the deal requires him to pay back the note now, and it would be a $hitty deal if it did. If you are saying that the contract says what it says and if it requires him to pay back the note or give up the house then that's what he has to do, of course I agree.

USC is going to have a hard time taking possession of that house. They reportedly loaned Kiffin $500,000 on a $5.5 Million house. That means that a bank somewhere loaned the other $5 Million or so. I highly doubt that the bank is going to allow "their" property to become USC's property.

 

[Wild Bill]

According to the article I was looking at the terms of the deal haven't been confirmed. I'm saying I doubt the deal requires him to pay back the note now, and it would be a $hitty deal if it did. If you are saying that the contract says what it says and if it requires him to pay back the note or give up the house then that's what he has to do, of course I agree.

I believe he has to pay back the $500k, not the entire note. If he doesn't have the money, he can sell the home and use the proceeds to pay them. If it's under water and he doesn't have the money he should; (1) avoid buying $5.5 million homes in the future, and (2) file a bankruptcy.

I'm guessing Monte will be about $500k short this year.

 

[ThePiombino]

According to the article I was looking at the terms of the deal haven't been confirmed. I'm saying I doubt the deal requires him to pay back the note now, and it would be a $hitty deal if it did. If you are saying that the contract says what it says and if it requires him to pay back the note or give up the house then that's what he has to do, of course I agree.

A ****** deal indeed.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

Hahahahahaha

http://usc.247sports.com/Board/29/Jon-Gruden-21870163

 

[Booslum31]

Gruden...that would be impressive.

 

[NDhoosier]

I wouldnt mind them hiring Gruden. But his name is ALWAYS brought up when a major college program or an NFL team is in need of a coach. I dont see it happening.

 

[PANDFAN]

 

[Irish YJ]

 

[ab2cmiller]

Awesome job by the UT fans.

 

[PLACforever]

Are we recruiting Snoop Dogg's son?

 

[PANDFAN]

Are we recruiting Snoop Dogg's son?

no offer highly doubt

 

[PLACforever]

no offer highly doubt

He's apparently a 4star?

Snoop Dogg’s son, a four-star recruit, says Lane Kiffin’s USC firing was overdue | SI Wire

 

[ulukinatme]

I can't imagine Gruden would want to go back to the college ranks if he's going to return to coaching. Even if USC is a big time program, theres a lot of extra crap that college coaches have to go through that NFL coaches don't. The time sink in recruiting vs. drafting is one. Lot of extra headaches, and potentially less money in college. USC would probably need to front some serious coin, and even then I don't think Gruden would go. I find it funny that everyone always thinks they'll get 'em when they lose a coach though, and the reasons some schools come up with are just comical.

 

[PANDFAN]

He's apparently a 4star?

Snoop Dogg’s son, a four-star recruit, says Lane Kiffin’s USC firing was*overdue | SI Wire

yeah he is only looking at usc,ucla according to what i had read months ago

 

[ACamp1900]

I can't imagine Gruden would want to go back to the college ranks if he's going to return to coaching. Even if USC is a big time program, theres a lot of extra crap that college coaches have to go through that NFL coaches don't. The time sink in recruiting vs. drafting is one. Lot of extra headaches, and potentially less money in college. USC would probably need to front some serious coin, and even then I don't think Gruden would go. I find it funny that everyone always thinks they'll get 'em when they lose a coach though, and the reasons some schools come up with are just comical.

By every single account I have heard both are difficult jobs, both have their own unique components and such... but I have never once heard anything but, college is a far better gig with more free time. The 'extra bs" seems to always be associated with teh pro gigs... no?

 

[ACamp1900]

Also, as far as I'm concerned, Karama hit both Lane and UT on this whole thing... Butch leaving for the USC job at year's end would be comedy...

screw UT

 

[ulukinatme]

By every single account I have heard both are difficult jobs, both have their own unique components and such... but I have never once heard anything but, college is a far better gig with more free time. The 'extra bs" seems to always be associated with teh pro gigs... no?

I don't know, I've always heard the opposite. Aside from the benefits of drafting over recruiting, you've got to deal with academic issues and typically you have to worry about behavior on campus. While neither of those may require much more of your time, they can be frustrating as a coach. While not every position is as taxing on your time, positions like ND's HC also require attending more events and appearances than an NFL coach typically has to partake in. Probably why coaches typically last no more than 10-12 years at this job, if not less.

 

[PANDFAN]

the travel is much more in college in terms of recruiting

 

[ACamp1900]

I have always heard CFB HC is about a 9-10 month job... NFL is 24/7 365... don't know if that's true but I have heard this topic discussed numerous times by those who have done both or worked around both and have never heard anything but...

idk

 

[Emcee77]

Yeah according to this NFL coaches work pretty damn hard:

The NFL's head coaches struggle to balance work with family time - ESPN The Magazine

It even suggests that the relentless NFL grind is what sent Saban back to college. Apparently the article was written a few years ago, but I doubt the NFL would have changed much.

 

[ulukinatme]

Yeah according to this NFL coaches work pretty damn hard:

The NFL's head coaches struggle to balance work with family time - ESPN The Magazine

It even suggests that the relentless NFL grind is what sent Saban back to college. Apparently the article was written a few years ago, but I doubt the NFL would have changed much.

Certainly NFL coaches work very hard, I don't want to discount that. The article points out that they're working 12-16 hour days at least 5 days a week from July-Jan. In the other months college coaches are also squeezing in a lot of recruiting and spring practices/games. The article doesn't really compare NFL coaches to college coaches though, aside from a mention of Saban (And I don't think he left the Dolphins because of time restraints).

 

[ShakeDown]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23USC&src=hash">#USC</a> practice is back open AND we can report on injuries again. We can also shoot video of practice again and take photos.</p>— Ryan Abraham (@insidetroy) <a href="https://twitter.com/insidetroy/statuses/385145429425258496">October 1, 2013</a></blockquote>
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It's as if the Berlin Wall came down. I don't think I've ever seen so many different people collectively happy about a coach's firing before.

I was poking around the USC site, Schrader had a post up about how a bunch of restrictions have been lifted from the players, including minutiae like ice cream, sour cream, mayo etc. Everyone seems to really like Ed O. I wonder if he'll get a serious look at HC. I'm sure he gets more out of his players the rest of the year than Kiffen would have.

 

[IrishLax]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>What do QBs Bryce Petty & Tajh Boyd have in common? Both had verbally committed to <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Vols&src=hash">#Vols</a>, but were turned away by Lane Kiffin</p>— Rich Cirminiello (@RichCirminiello) <a href="https://twitter.com/RichCirminiello/statuses/386155198525100032">October 4, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[GBdomer]

From TJ:

This coaching search gymnastics amuses me everywhere, every time.

To wit, I know a few very well-placed SC people who ordinarily are up to snuff and in a proper position to know such things. VIP types, if you will. They know Haden well and converse regularly. That sort of thing.

One insists it will be Del Rio. He appears to be the "insider's favorite" of traditional SC people.

Another insists Haden is focused on Sarkisian and will have a deal announced by season's end. He would be the "cleaner" version of a Carroll extension.

Yet another suggests that Haden and certain football alums are fascinated with Sumlin. Nevermind, they say, the constant rumblings that Sumlin will head to his longed-for NFL job sooner than later.

And so it goes....

I think we should wait on SC's announcement later to even bother with this.

 

[PANDFAN]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>RT <a href="https://twitter.com/MockingTheDraft">@MockingTheDraft</a>: Tony Dungy said on Dan Patrick that USC's people called his people but he has no interest.</p>— SB Nation CFB (@SBNationCFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/SBNationCFB/statuses/387212570559385601">October 7, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[NDohio]

Certainly NFL coaches work very hard, I don't want to discount that. The article points out that they're working 12-16 hour days at least 5 days a week from July-Jan. In the other months college coaches are also squeezing in a lot of recruiting and spring practices/games. The article doesn't really compare NFL coaches to college coaches though, aside from a mention of Saban (And I don't think he left the Dolphins because of time restraints).

I have heard both Saban and Spurrier talk about their time in the NFL and how it was a lot more time consuming than being in the NCAA. Now both were really bad in the NFL and these could be excuses, but neither conversation came off as such.

 

[FLDomer]

USC says impostor reps reached out to Tony Dungy, Jack Del Rio

It was probably Roniah....

 

[Irish#1]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>RT <a href="https://twitter.com/MockingTheDraft">@MockingTheDraft</a>: Tony Dungy said on Dan Patrick that USC's people called his people but he has no interest.</p>— SB Nation CFB (@SBNationCFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/SBNationCFB/statuses/387212570559385601">October 7, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Tony also said USC should hire a college coach. He didn't specify why, but thought an NFL coach wouldn't be successful there.