'14 VA DE Da'Shawn Hand (Alabama Verbal ROLL TIDE YALL)

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TomHaverford said:
call me crazy, but I don't think Saban is going to be at Alabama for much longer. He's 62 years old, he's already won 3 BCS titles at Alabama, there really is nothing left for him to prove in college. If he wins it again this year, I think he's as good as gone.

I think much like Pete Carroll, he's going to take another stab at the NFL, but this time it will be completely on his terms and he won't jump on the chance to coach a turd franchise (which is what the Miami Dolphins are and have been for a long time) like he did last time.

If the Detroit Lions run amok this season and Schwartz gets fired, that's not a bad job to jump at. There is a really nice young nucleus of talent there. Stafford has all of the talent in the world, huge arm, young kid with great upside. He'd have a young, proven, supremely talented QB. Stafford just turned 25 and he's thrown for 5,000 in back to back seasons with a very average OL and literally no running game. Yes, his TD numbers were way down in 2012, but literally every WR on the roster except Megatron was injured in 2012. Broyles, Young, Burelson, all injured. Burelson missed 10 games, Young 8, and Broyles was a rookie and missed 6.

Megatron goes without saying, most dominant WR in the game. Theo Riddick was a huge pick up for that offense and will give them a huge shot in the arm because of his versatility to run and catch to go along with homerun speed. That offense was so much more explosive with a healthy Javhid Best catching passes out of the backfield. On defense they have a young star on the interior in Suh and another one in the making in Fairley who had 6 sacks in his 2nd year in the league. Saban didn't have a QB last time he was in the NFL, and you can't win in the NFL without a QB.

Not saying he's going to Detroit, but I could see him going to a young team with a lot of young talent like that where all they'd really need is a few personnel pieces and a new coaching staff.
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“@jcshurburtt: Recent info prevents me from changing my #CrystalBall pick of #Bama for Da'Shawn Hand, but #Michigan just as likely. Visits important.”
 
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“@jcshurburtt: Recent info prevents me from changing my #CrystalBall pick of #Bama for Da'Shawn Hand, but #Michigan just as likely. Visits important.”
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JC couldn't find his a$$hole with both hands
 
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ND NYC said:
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No question he was a great pick up as well. His versatility is a perfect match for the Lions offense.

STLDomer said:
“@jcshurburtt: Recent info prevents me from changing my #CrystalBall pick of #Bama for Da'Shawn Hand, but #Michigan just as likely. Visits important.”
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Schurburtt doesn't have a source on Hand imo. He made a hard stand that Hand was going to Bama and he's not backing down. Most of the other analysts that picked Bama have flipped to Michigan. I don't think the visits are that important if Hand already says he pretty much knows where he's going. I'll be watching what Steve Witflong does with his crystal ball, the rest of those guys' crystal balls are pretty much worthless.

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I hate to break it to you, Tom, but the Lions are a "turd" franchise. Saban isn't going anywhere after Alabama.
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Lions were a huge turd of a franchise for decades. Ford Sr. was a terrible owner and they never had a QB for as long as I could remember. They had garbage at QB for decades. Ford Jr. is running things now and things have gone way smoother. The Lions have a QB, and a damn good one at that, and the kid is still young. He just turned 25 years old and he's thrown for back to back 5,000 yard seasons. In the NFL it's all about the QB. It's not as bad of a job as you think. There is some really good young talent there. A disciplinarian coach like Cowher or Saban could turn that team around in a heartbeat. Schwartz is a joke, and there is some good talent already on the roster. A new coaching staff, a couple key F/A signings and a couple good draft picks and the Lions could be well on their way to perennial playoff contention.

I just don't see Saban sticking around in college much longer. Like I said call me crazy, but I think sooner or later that itch to test himself against the best of the best will come back. All it will take to get him back there is the right opportunity.
 
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TomHaverford said:
It's not as bad of a job as you think. There is some really good young talent there. A disciplinarian coach like Cowher or Saban could turn that team around in a heartbeat. Schwartz is a joke, and there is some good talent already on the roster. A new coaching staff, a couple key F/A signings and a couple good draft picks and the Lions could be well on their way to perennial playoff contention.
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I don't think it's a terrible job. There's some talent on the roster as you said. I just think the Lions are a "turd" franchise (11 winning seasons in the SB era), whatever that means. But they're your team and you have every right to drink the Hawaiian blue koolaid.

And Schwartz inherited an 0-16 team, made them somewhat respectable, and brought in all of that young talent you're raving about. Hardly a joke. I'm surprised to hear a Lions fan feel this way about him.

And re: Saban, it better be "sooner". He's not getting any younger.
 
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NDWorld247 said:
I'm with you on Michigan, but it's for a different reason. Whichever school gets Hand will be getting a guy that will attract other recruits. If he goes to Michigan, their class is pretty much done for 2014 so he won't bring anyone else with him. If he goes to Alabama or UF, he could potentially sway ND targets to those schools. Even if they aren't ND targets, he'll help bring more talent to the SEC. I'm ready to see the SEC reign end.
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I would have to disagree, only to the point that Alabama has nothing left to prove to any recruit, so the impact of ANY single player can only do so much more on their recruiting momentum. It would have way more of a positive impact on Michigan as a player and as a recruiting tool IMO.

Unfortunately, this past NC game only reinforced the "SEC>Everyone Else" narrative. IMO there are very few teams that will be able to challenge that argument in the long term which are IMO ND, Oregon, Michigan, Ohio State, USC, Texas, and Oklahoma. The team that succeeds at that will benefit from it for a long time.
 
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Crowd was chanting his name, Matthew Burrell behind him.
 
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On Hand: you hear a lot of mixed things in Virginia. A lot of people think he's the real deal and a great kid. A lot of other people think he is really overrated and has a head similar to Aaron Lynch. A lot of them point to what he says publicly not jiving with common sense or what he says privately. Maybe that is sour grapes from him eliminating Tech, so I'd take it with grain of salt, but it's out there.

No doubt that Jabrill Peppers is a vastly superior prospect to Hand, IMO. He's going to be the gem of the Michigan class and a sure fire stud.
 
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On Hand: you hear a lot of mixed things in Virginia. A lot of people think he's the real deal and a great kid. A lot of other people think he is really overrated and has a head similar to Aaron Lynch. A lot of them point to what he says publicly not jiving with common sense or what he says privately. Maybe that is sour grapes from him eliminating Tech, so I'd take it with grain of salt, but it's out there.

No doubt that Jabrill Peppers is a vastly superior prospect to Hand, IMO. He's going to be the gem of the Michigan class and a sure fire stud.
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Can I ask where you're hearing that? I don't doubt it - I'm just always curious about "a lot of people think" type stuff.
 
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IrishLax said:
On Hand: you hear a lot of mixed things in Virginia. A lot of people think he's the real deal and a great kid. A lot of other people think he is really overrated and has a head similar to Aaron Lynch. A lot of them point to what he says publicly not jiving with common sense or what he says privately. Maybe that is sour grapes from him eliminating Tech, so I'd take it with grain of salt, but it's out there.

No doubt that Jabrill Peppers is a vastly superior prospect to Hand, IMO. He's going to be the gem of the Michigan class and a sure fire stud.
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This statement has nothing to do with the conversation of this thread about Matthew Burrell looking like a fat Britney Griner.
 
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re: Burrell ... isn't he a ND lean at this point?

As far as Hand goes, I think he's the real deal. Just watching his tape, his first step is elite and he dominates. He also displays great hands and a ton of pass rush moves. I think he's an immediate impact guy. Could see him getting anywhere from 4-8 sacks as a true freshman playing in a rotation at weakside end. Physically he's already in the 250's in high school. Should have no problem being in the 260's as a freshman. He has ideal size already for a weakside end in a 4-3.
 
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re: Burrell ... isn't he a ND lean at this point?

As far as Hand goes, I think he's the real deal. Just watching his tape, his first step is elite and he dominates. He also displays great hands and a ton of pass rush moves. I think he's an immediate impact guy. Could see him getting anywhere from 4-8 sacks as a true freshman playing in a rotation at weakside end. Physically he's already in the 250's in high school. Should have no problem being in the 260's as a freshman. He has ideal size already for a weakside end in a 4-3.
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From everything out there Burrell wants to play in the south. ND will get a visit but he will play south somewhere.
 
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I saw all these recruits on field. Hand is not built like a 18 year old. Burrell is one of the ugliest humans I have ever seen.
 
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TomHaverford said:
No question he was a great pick up as well. His versatility is a perfect match for the Lions offense.



Schurburtt doesn't have a source on Hand imo. He made a hard stand that Hand was going to Bama and he's not backing down. Most of the other analysts that picked Bama have flipped to Michigan. I don't think the visits are that important if Hand already says he pretty much knows where he's going. I'll be watching what Steve Witflong does with his crystal ball, the rest of those guys' crystal balls are pretty much worthless.



Lions were a huge turd of a franchise for decades. Ford Sr. was a terrible owner and they never had a QB for as long as I could remember. They had garbage at QB for decades. Ford Jr. is running things now and things have gone way smoother. The Lions have a QB, and a damn good one at that, and the kid is still young. He just turned 25 years old and he's thrown for back to back 5,000 yard seasons. In the NFL it's all about the QB. It's not as bad of a job as you think. There is some really good young talent there. A disciplinarian coach like Cowher or Saban could turn that team around in a heartbeat. Schwartz is a joke, and there is some good talent already on the roster. A new coaching staff, a couple key F/A signings and a couple good draft picks and the Lions could be well on their way to perennial playoff contention.

I just don't see Saban sticking around in college much longer. Like I said call me crazy, but I think sooner or later that itch to test himself against the best of the best will come back. All it will take to get him back there is the right opportunity.
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But it's still Detroit.
 
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Ugh that kills me. At least we don't have to play him but once, I guess.
 
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T Town Tommy said:
Agree. Hope he enjoys those 9-3 type seasons and getting owned bu tOSU every year. Yabaa Dabba Doo
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You can only say that for so long before pulling arguably #1 & #2 rated recruits starts paying off. Thankfully they have had Mattison to offset the stupidity of Borges.
 
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You can only say that for so long before pulling arguably #1 & #2 rated recruits starts paying off. Thankfully they have had Mattison to offset the stupidity of Borges.
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I will believe it with Michigan when I see it. I have no confidence in their current coaching staff to coach up the recruits they are getting. Luckily they play in a pitiful conference so their shortcomings get masked to a degree.
 
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