If you had any respect for USC

[clashmore_mike]

was just going to post that. MOAR Southern Cal slander please!!

 

[BurningRiver]

Why is USC even allowed to have a football program anymore? On top of that, why is Kiffin allowed to be employed by an NCAA university?

Mind bottling.

 

[UmphreakDomer]

I'm sure it looked like this..

List:

Get out of jail (check)

you forgot:
pick up assistant agents '12 Rover and get back into off campus housing in westwood (check)

 

[IrishLax]

Unbelievable.

Quotes from Kiffy:

“Simi is back with our team. Simi has done everything fulfilling his obligations to the team to get back. He’s been through a lot. He’s fulfilled all of his legal obligations as well, so he’s back as a part of our team. While he wasn’t with us over this time, he had a great semester last spring. He passed 20 units and is very close to graduating as well.”

On his scholarship: “His scholarship is still in tact.”

On how Simi might affect Darreus’s scholarship: “Like I said before, we don’t get into specifics with numbers and planning, but Darreus is not good to go.”

Can you give me a link to that? Completely unreal.... no punishment whatsoever from those quotes. Guy DUIs, injures a pedestrian, and fleas the scene of an accident... gets convicted on multiple felony charges and gets sentenced to a YEAR in jail... somehow gets out early and is back with the team immediately.

The double standard here on what USC gets away with and what ND gets dragged through the mud for is insane. Can you imagine ND letting a player miss the first week or so of school because he was IN JAIL ON FELONIES and then letting him back like it was no big deal?

Despicable.

 

[Buster Bluth]

Mind bottling.

Not sure if serious...

 

[IrishLax]

Everyone needs to make sure to tweet and share the incidents with everyone they know. Email all ESPN people about it. Share it with any friends you have at UCLA, Oregon, Stanford, etc.

Can you imagine the front page story if ND was sued by a player for what Armond is alleging?

Can you imagine the sh*t ND would take for doing what USC just did with their felon?

Spread the word. Seriously.

 

[irishfanjho15]

Everyone needs to make sure to tweet and share the incidents with everyone they know. Email all ESPN people about it. Share it with any friends you have at UCLA, Oregon, Stanford, etc.

Can you imagine the front page story if ND was sued by a player for what Armond is alleging?

Can you imagine the sh*t ND would take for doing what USC just did with their felon?

Spread the word. Seriously.

Lax, what is this all about? I missed out on the info I guess.

 

[IrishLax]

Lax, what is this all about? I missed out on the info I guess.

Former USC defensive lineman Armond Armstead sues school over painkiller injections - CBSSports.com

 

[irishfanjho15]

Former USC defensive lineman Armond Armstead sues school over painkiller injections - CBSSports.com

Thanks. I looked back and guess I missed it above.

 

[RDU Irish]

Hit 'em where it counts Armond!

Are injections like that common for athletes? (Barry Bonds jokes aside)

 

[Buster Bluth]

tweets to Colin sent.

 

[NDhoosier]

I sent it to Cowherd, a couple ESPN guys and, and Mike Farrell.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

Can you give me a link to that? Completely unreal.... no punishment whatsoever from those quotes. Guy DUIs, injures a pedestrian, and fleas the scene of an accident... gets convicted on multiple felony charges and gets sentenced to a YEAR in jail... somehow gets out early and is back with the team immediately.

The double standard here on what USC gets away with and what ND gets dragged through the mud for is insane. Can you imagine ND letting a player miss the first week or so of school because he was IN JAIL ON FELONIES and then letting him back like it was no big deal?

Despicable.

http://usc.247sports.com/Article/Simione-Vehikite-rejoins-the-team-88029

 

[IrishLax]

Bruce Feldman says he will be writing about it in tomorrow's mailbag.

Social media does work in getting the word out. Keep it up. Send these stories (especially the felon one) to everyone you know. I've had enough of the double standard of people hating on the university with a 99% graduation rate but opting to turn a blind eye to the BS that is these football factories and their "ethics."

 

[Pachuco]

But wait.... Matt Barkley is the Mother Teresa of Heisman candidates!!

 

[eNDzone]

Does anyone know if Vehikite can leave the state under felony probation?

 

[irishff1014]

Does anyone know if Vehikite can leave the state under felony probation?

He probably just has to make contact with his probation officer.

 

[BurningRiver]

Does anyone know if Vehikite can leave the state under felony probation?

I'm sure the USC athletic department knows how to get around that

 

[PraetorianND]

Would not be surprised to ultimately see him miss a couple games as he is a reserve player and if this starts getting any traction with the press Haden/their PR people will almost surely mandate something I'd imagine. It's absolutely shocking though that no one has pressed him on it... can you imagine if Brian Kelly brought back a convicted felon straight out of jail? Hell would be raised about him even being allowed back in the school much less onto the team... and the very first questions would be about what discipline he is facing. And then you'd see a half dozen articles critiquing ND for letting in such an unsavory individual.

They would be accusing BK of being responsible for the crimes themselves and call for his immediate resignation/firing.

 

[BGIF]

Some Background

Some Background

USC football: Simione Vehikite ordered to serve a year in jail - Los Angeles Times

USC football: Simione Vehikite ordered to serve a year in jail
May 17, 2012|By Gary Klein

This post has been corrected. See note at bottom.

USC linebacker Simione Vehikite pleaded no contest to two felony counts and was ordered to serve one year in county jail Thursday for his involvement in a 2011 automobile accident

Vehikite, 21, was remanded into custody after appearing before Commissioner John R. Johnson in Inglewood Superior Court.

“He's felt horrible about the whole thing,” Michael Norris, Vehikite’s attorney, said outside the courtroom. “He felt bad that it happened in the first place and he felt bad that somebody else at one point was felt to be responsible for it.

“Now that he has appeared in court, he’s taken full responsibility for everything that happened .... Whatever needs to be done to make the victims whole, he’s happy to do.”

Vehikite was arrested in February in connection with the July 2011 accident and faced four felony counts: leaving the scene of an accident; driving under the influence causing injury; driving with a .08% blood alcohol level and causing injury; and identity theft.

USC said it suspended Vehikite from all team activities after it became aware of the situation.

On Thursday, Vehikite pleaded no contest to leaving the scene of an accident and driving with a .08% blood alcohol and causing injury. He was sentenced to two years in prison, which was suspended. As a condition of three years of felony probation, he was ordered to serve a year in county jail. He also was ordered to pay restitution to the victim in the accident and he must complete a county morgue program and alcohol counseling.

Deputy Dist. Atty. David Cheng said the plea offer was in line with a recommendation in the probation department’s pre-plea report.

“We decided this was an appropriate offer to make to him at this time, that justice would be carried out by this particular agreement,” Cheng said.

Vehikite, 5-foot-11 and 225 pounds, played in 12 games and made six tackles last season as a third-year sophomore. He attended spring semester classes at USC but did not participate in spring practice.

Coach Lane Kiffin could not immediately be reached for comment.

“I can’t speak for the school and I don’t know what their position is going to be as far as what his standing with the team is after this particular case has been resolved,” Norris said. “But I know that the school is very insistent that he take full responsibility for everything. They’ve been very proactive about that.”

2 p.m. update: An earlier version of this post erroneously identified Commissioner John R. Johnson as John R. Robinson.

 

[phgreek]

What is Pat Haden thinking allowing this?

my first thought...

not who I thought he was I guess. I understand due process and all, but its not like there is a question if he did it...he's served time. So what reasoanble justification could there be for bringing him right back.

 

[phgreek]

Somewhere Allen Pinkett knees sore from groveling apologies to anyone in earshot, muttering to himself, "See I was right. Lane Kiffin and Southern Cal, GET IT!"

There is a bit of irony here...Pinkett is getting skewered for "thinkin it"...Kiffin is getting top cover for doing it.

I still maintain Pinkett didn't mean it how it sounded...Kiffin means it, and doesn't want any sound, and ESPN is obliging.

 

[BGIF]

my first thought...

not who I thought he was I guess. I understand due process and all, but its not like there is a question if he did it...he's served time. So what reasoanble justification could there be for bringing him right back.

IF he fulfilled his legal obligations there is no bar by the NCAA nor USC to prevent him attending school nor being on athletic scholarship.

If Floyd had gotten 6 months in jail and fulfilled the law's and ND's requirements, would he not have been taken back? Isn't Reconciliation a Catholic principal?


The issue is the dirty dealing with the player that got kicked to the curb to put this guy back on scholarship. Onehad lost his scholarship while the other guy earned one. Granted scholarships are for a year but Kiffin could have told the other kid, "We'll renew your scholarship if we have room." He didn't. His comment about not talking to walk-ons is BS spin. The kid stopped being a walk-on when Kiffen awarded him a scholarship. Kiffin had an obligation to talk to him.

 

[ACamp1900]

Forgive me if this was already covered... Isn't there a potential academic issue with this kid not taking classes this whole time??

 

[BGIF]

Forgive me if this was already covered... Isn't there a potential academic issue with this kid not taking classes this whole time??

I don't know for certain but I believe it's considered a leave of absence similar to how the NCAA treats Mormon Missions or Military Service. The clock is suspended and it reactivates with a new semester. There may be an issue of whether he left the previous semester in good academic standing.


One thing he will have to do is undergo the required days of NCAA mandated conditioning. Working out in shells, stretching, increasing cardio activity, then gradually working into contact. Since he missed that conditioning in preseason camp he can't play until he does it. Based on past situations of missing preseason conditioning, he'll miss the first couple of games, maybe 3, while he complies.

 

[woolybug25]

I don't know for certain but I believe it's considered a leave of absence similar to how the NCAA treats Mormon Missions or Military Service. The clock is suspended and it reactivates with a new semester. There may be an issue of whether he left the previous semester in good academic standing.


One thing he will have to do is undergo the required days of NCAA mandated conditioning. Working out in shells, stretching, increasing cardio activity, then gradually working into contact. Since he missed that conditioning in preseason camp he can't play until he does it. Based on past situations of missing preseason conditioning, he'll miss the first couple of games, maybe 3, while he complies.

That's what I thought too. It's too funny to see that Missions/Military Service getting the same academic treatment as jail. lol

 

[peoriairish]

Look who just joined Twitter, @KirkHerbstreit. Make sure to bombard him with these links fellas.

 

[Who'saWildManNow]

Crabtree just tweeted this story..

USC Trojans reinstate Simione Vehikite after his time in jail - ESPN Los Angeles

 

[stlnd01]

IF he fulfilled his legal obligations there is no bar by the NCAA nor USC to prevent him attending school nor being on athletic scholarship.

No, there's not. It appears he served his time. But USC could certainly have found cause not to take him back, or at least suspend him, if they'd so desired. They desired him back. Just speaks to their character. So does whacking a walk-on.

And several mysteries from January 2012 are revealed in that Armstead lawsuit, huh? I'd figure we're one of the schools USC blocked? Sounds like an awful situation for the guy. No wonder his brother decommitted.

 

[phgreek]

IF he fulfilled his legal obligations there is no bar by the NCAA nor USC to prevent him attending school nor being on athletic scholarship.

If Floyd had gotten 6 months in jail and fulfilled the law's and ND's requirements, would he not have been taken back? Isn't Reconciliation a Catholic principal?


The issue is the dirty dealing with the player that got kicked to the curb to put this guy back on scholarship. Onehad lost his scholarship while the other guy earned one. Granted scholarships are for a year but Kiffin could have told the other kid, "We'll renew your scholarship if we have room." He didn't. His comment about not talking to walk-ons is BS spin. The kid stopped being a walk-on when Kiffen awarded him a scholarship. Kiffin had an obligation to talk to him.

reconciliation Yes...Debt to society, sure...let him finish his degree, get help, etc.


Floyd back if he got clocked for 6 months, I don't know about that.

I don't think Kelly and co. take Floyd back if he is involved in something where SOMEONE ELSE got hurt, and then he ran...Two totally different transgressions...two totally different levels of wrong that speak to the morality and character of the person...

Edit: ...he's still on probation...so he is a Felon on the football field...NICE!

The scholarship thing is totally something I'd expect Kiffin to do...

I would expect Hayden to accept none of this...whats up with that guy?