Who is likely next?

[PANDFAN]

im guessing Dillman with the recent offer out to Rosen...maybe was evaluating qb situation

 

[T Town Tommy]

Fish away Loy....

 

[IrishLax]

There is a "mystery RB" in a sense but Loy phrased it really poorly and I think made it purposely obtuse to have more intrigue. Just a guy committed elsewhere that talks to ND coaches some. There's no reason right now to believe we'd land him unless something changes. So big effing deal.

 

[Luckylucci]

There is a "mystery RB" in a sense but Loy phrased it really poorly and I think made it purposely obtuse to have more intrigue. Just a guy committed elsewhere that talks to ND coaches some. There's no reason right now to believe we'd land him unless something changes. So big effing deal.

I don't really care to get backup Loy on this but the real significance of what he said about the "secret RB" was that he was going to take an official to ND. If that were to occur that would be something important.

 

[CanadalovesND]

The player Loy is talking about is OT Jevon Patterson, No.44 recruit in 2015

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

The player Loy is talking about is OT Jevon Patterson, No.44 recruit in 2015

Thanks Canada.

 

[PANDFAN]

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[ND NYC]

can any of our resident recruiting gurus here at IE provide an overall update on "where we are at" in terms of recruiting for this years class?
seems like only guy weve been discussing is drue tranquil of late.

who else is in the pipeline? are we meeting our postitonal needs in this class?

a 2014 recruiting class summary...who is looking good for us, what do we have to be watching from here on out until first wed in feb.

any help on this appreiciated! (i know were "in season" now so most of our focus is on the job at hand and thats winning games on saturday)

 

[Luckylucci]

As you can tell by some of the action this week, its going to start getting more interesting as guys come for officials. Go check out the visitor lists, anybody that is scheduled for an official visit we have a real shot with. Kind of hard to give you a run down when only a few have visited anywhere.

 

[Emcee77]

can any of our resident recruiting gurus here at IE provide an overall update on "where we are at" in terms of recruiting for this years class?
seems like only guy weve been discussing is drue tranquil of late.

who else is in the pipeline? are we meeting our postitonal needs in this class?

a 2014 recruiting class summary...who is looking good for us, what do we have to be watching from here on out until first wed in feb.

any help on this appreiciated! (i know were "in season" now so most of our focus is on the job at hand and thats winning games on saturday)

Hmm, here's a quick rundown off the top of my head:

OL -- got 4 studs, done there unless we can get somebody too good to turn down like Damien Mama (unlikely but I believe will OV) or KC McDermott (Loy thinks we may have a shot late in the cycle)

RB -- don't really need anyone, will likely hold out for an elite guy or not take anybody, working on Bo Scarbrough, who will OV

QB -- got Kizer, great profile fit, done

WR -- got a really impressive athlete in Brent and a T.J. Jones-like potential starter in Holmes ... still working on just a couple guys like Lazard and McKenzie and Quick and I think that's it. (McKenzie seems likely to be Irish, unless he bombs his SAT)

TE -- got Weishar, an Eifert-like flex TE ... done here unless we can snag Luatua, who will OV and who we supposedly lead for. Would really complement Weishar as a Niklas-like monster athlete who can develop into a stud in-line blocker as well as a pass-catcher. Dalton Schultz is also interested but I don't think we lead and I think we'd prefer Luatua.

DL -- got a number of low-rated but high-upside DEs already, plus Hayes, who is relatively high-rated and appears to have the body to work at DT too ... working on Matt Elam, an elite NT, and Thomas Holley, an elite DE/DT in the mold of Eddie Vanderdoes (curse the name). Realistic shot at both, not sure we lead with either. Also working on Solomon Thomas, a great DE prospect (consensus top 50 overall) and a great profile fit, high ND interest but Stanford may lead. Depth needs are met, but we need a stud guy who we can plug in right away at NT with Nix gone.

LB -- Bonner (low-rated recruit who we offered because he showed us elite pass-rushing ability when he camped, consistently beat all of our OL commits in attendance) and Yeargin are natural CATs who the staff has said have the flexibility to play any LB position; we've got Martini at ILB, and if we get Tranquill we'll be done, although we will still take an elite LB talent if we can get one interested (Lorenzo Carter maybe, not sure who else is still out there with interest)

DB -- Position group of great depth so we don't really need anyone, but we're working on Nick Watkins at CB (reasonably good shot at him, don't think we lead though) and Juju Smith at safety, an elite talent who will OV but we don't lead or anything. We're also looking at Payton Hendrix, a safety who goes to school with Watkins. Not high rated but a good athlete and good profile fit.

Basically, I think we've met most of our major depth needs. The most glaring remaining need is a guy who can contribute right away in 2014 at NT, and we are working on that. Second-most glaring is guy who can contribute right away at ILB, another position of weakness right now, and there's really no one on the horizon who fits the bill, which is the most troubling thing about this class. Maybe Nyles Morgan, but it's becoming clear that he isn't really interested in ND. Other than that, the rest of the cycle will be going after studs with star-power to boost our overall athleticism and playmaking ability.

Mods, feel free to correct me or add to this post. Or anyone ... I can edit later. This was just off the top of my head.

 

[NDdomer2]

i would add solomon thomas to the DL list

also i think our best shot at landing a safety this year is going to be kid from bishop dunne. name is slipping me

 

[Emcee77]

Payton Hendrix. Good call. Will edit.

 

[Luckylucci]

Sorry I was working. Normally I slack at work to come here. In that instance I slacked here to work, haha.

-TE Dalton Schultz will be OVing at some point unless Luatua commits on his visit.
-Kammy Delp is a name to watch on the Dline. Could get an offer if we don't make much progress with the others.
-S Payton Hendrix is the guy from Bishop Dunne. Best shot at a S prospect. In fact him and Nick would be great gets and we can still go all out for JuJu.
- Sounds like we'll at least get an OV from Nyles Morgan.

 

[GBdomer]

Peyton Hendrix and Nick Watkins

 

[aubeirish]

Adoree? or it's a strech?

 

[Irish Houstonian]

...we've got Martini at ILB, and if we get Tranquill we'll be done...

Given the state of the position, I tend to disagree with their ILB strategy.

 

[Luckylucci]

Given the state of the position, I tend to disagree with their ILB strategy.

I don't think its necessarily their choice, its the kids choices. We tried for quite a few studs at ILB and they just weren't having it. Now, Morgan is a very very long shot right now but i think dads in our corner and we should get a visit.

 

[Irish Houstonian]

I don't think its necessarily their choice, its the kids choices. We tried for quite a few studs at ILB and they just weren't having it. Now, Morgan is a very very long shot right now but i think dads in our corner and we should get a visit.

Right, I'm not knocking them for not getting players, I just don't think they should be "done" if they get Tranquill.

 

[Luckylucci]

They aren't, they are continuing to recruit Morgan. And I imagine that they'll continue to recruit any elite ILB that has interest until NSD. Whether successful or not this staff never stops recruiting elite players. Keep in mind that we have pretty actively recruited 4 of the top 5 ILB's according to rivals. They have either said no thank you or committed to another school.

 

[Domina Nostra]

They aren't, they are continuing to recruit Morgan. And I imagine that they'll continue to recruit any elite ILB that has interest until NSD. Whether successful or not this staff never stops recruiting elite players. Keep in mind that we have pretty actively recruited 4 of the top 5 ILB's according to rivals. They have either said no thank you or committed to another school.

I think we are in good shape at LB if everything holds. This is what I think we see next year at this point barring injuries:

CAT: Williams, Okwara, Yeargrin, Bonner
MIKE: Grace, Moore, Martini
WILL: Council, Deeb, Schmidt
DOG: Smith, Randolph, Tranquil

- Listening to Council in interviews, I think he has the right demeanor for an ILB. Once Spond was out, though, it made no sense to move him this year.
- Randolph seems like a good enough athlete to play DOG, and he can develop there slowly since you basically want Smith on the filed all the time. Give Randolph opportunities during running downs. Tranquil seems like Jaylon-lite to me.
- An injury to Grace would be a killer.

One more ILB could would give us a lot more flexibility, though.

 

[IrishLax]

I think we are in good shape at LB if everything holds. This is what I think we see next year at this point barring injuries:

CAT: Williams, Okwara, Yeargrin, Bonner
MIKE: Grace, Moore, Martini
WILL: Council, Deeb, Schmidt
DOG: Smith, Randolph, Tranquil

- Listening to Council in interviews, I think he has the right demeanor for an ILB. Once Spond was out, though, it made no sense to move him this year.
- Randolph seems like a good enough athlete to play DOG, and he can develop there slowly since you basically want Smith on the filed all the time. Give Randolph opportunities during running downs. Tranquil seems like Jaylon-lite to me.
- An injury to Grace would be a killer.

One more ILB could would give us a lot more flexibility, though.

I think Randolph is more likely to slide inside than Councell.

 

[Irish Houstonian]

They aren't, they are continuing to recruit Morgan. And I imagine that they'll continue to recruit any elite ILB that has interest until NSD. Whether successful or not this staff never stops recruiting elite players. Keep in mind that we have pretty actively recruited 4 of the top 5 ILB's according to rivals. They have either said no thank you or committed to another school.

I guess we'll agree to disagree, but if I were coach, I would try to make sure there's at least one serviceable ILB from this class, elite or not. If the elite guys aren't interested, well, try and find a diamond in the rough. We have the room.

 

[Luckylucci]

I guess we'll agree to disagree, but if I were coach, I would try to make sure there's at least one serviceable ILB from this class, elite or not. If the elite guys aren't interested, well, try and find a diamond in the rough. We have the room.

Not sure what is being missed here. We have Martini (thats one) and your initial statement said if we get Tranquill (thats two). I would hope that if we land Tranquill we only go after the elite after having two already. I was saying we go after the elite no matter what, thats a good idea no matter who's committed. If we don't get Tranquill we still have 1 and I would bet that we look for others.

 

[Domina Nostra]

I think Randolph is more likely to slide inside than Councell.

I would have agreed preseason, and ir could end up that way ultimately-especially if we land a stud ILB, but if Jaylon is going to start anyway, It seems tough to have Councell on the bench and Deeb or Moore starting. I feel like they will want the best athletes with the most experience on the field.

 

[TheTurningPoint]

There will be more ILBs pop up. It is a position that does need some depth and talent. But its kinda win/lose situation to offer a 1 kid at this point. You don't know if they are going to get hurt and the staff can use the entire season to evaluate the player. Getting an offer early is good but at the sametime Nov-Feb is plenty of time to get into a recruitment.

A name to keep an eye on would be Devante Downs. Pending on how his recovery is going, ND can get into that one pretty easily but right now I do not know how his recovery is going

 

[dublinirish]

I think Randolph is more likely to slide inside than Councell.

i agree also, Councell is 6'5" i think perhaps too tall to play inside, would be hard to for him to get leverage on interior OL at that height

 

[stlnd01]

I think we are in good shape at LB if everything holds. This is what I think we see next year at this point barring injuries:

CAT: Williams, Okwara, Yeargrin, Bonner
MIKE: Grace, Moore, Martini
WILL: Council, Deeb, Schmidt
DOG: Smith, Randolph, Tranquil

- Listening to Council in interviews, I think he has the right demeanor for an ILB. Once Spond was out, though, it made no sense to move him this year.
- Randolph seems like a good enough athlete to play DOG, and he can develop there slowly since you basically want Smith on the filed all the time. Give Randolph opportunities during running downs. Tranquil seems like Jaylon-lite to me.
- An injury to Grace would be a killer.

One more ILB could would give us a lot more flexibility, though.

Trouble is, aside from Grace we'll have no one with meaningful game experience at the position. Recruiting's not going to change that for '14 (and ILB's not an easy position to walk in and play as a freshman anyway), but I wonder if it wouldn't make sense to try and get Moore or Councell some PT there in the back half of this season.

Really still too bad we couldn't have landed either Anzalone or that Hawaiian kid who didn't want to be the next Manti Teo.

 

[Domina Nostra]

i agree also, Councell is 6'5" i think perhaps too tall to play inside, would be hard to for him to get leverage on interior OL at that height

Agreed--he would be very, very tall for the position. But we know they thought about it in the Spring. Personally, I'd rather have someone tall, fast, and strong who understood our defense and has the right attitude, then someone inexperienced and a step slower, probably smaller too.

Maybe the answer is to have him play ILB against pass-first teams. Deeb or More or Randolph would start against run-first teams.

In any event, our depth at ILB is clearly not good without someone sliding in and stepping up in a hurry.

 

[koonja]

There will be more ILBs pop up. It is a position that does need some depth and talent. But its kinda win/lose situation to offer a 1 kid at this point. You don't know if they are going to get hurt and the staff can use the entire season to evaluate the player. Getting an offer early is good but at the sametime Nov-Feb is plenty of time to get into a recruitment.

A name to keep an eye on would be Devante Downs. Pending on how his recovery is going, ND can get into that one pretty easily but right now I do not know how his recovery is going

I've never seen 247-247 composite be so far apart on a player. For composite, he's a .89, but 247 really likes him and he's a .96.

Devante Downs