Who do you want to replace Brian Kelly?

[IrishSteelhead]

Who do you want to replace Kelly and BVG?

Who do you want to replace Kelly and BVG?

This schedule is a paper tiger at best. It has tough games (and most of those are only tough because ND can't rise above mediocrity in certain spots), but not many tough teams.

IMO there are 6 "lose this game and you're fired" spots: Temple, BC, Miami (OH), NC St, Wake, Navy

4 "you should win this game, so you are allowed to dump one because s--t happens" spots: MSU, UNC, Miami, Stanford

2 "get embarrassed and you're fired" games: UGA, USC

I'll be gentle, and say win 9 or hit the bricks. Circumstances will arise, don't care, as nobody should. Win 9 or GTFO.

 

[NCND]

shout out to the guy who said Kelly was gonna resign early this week.

Haha. Right?

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Haha. Right?

And here I thought the internet was doing a big push to ban "fake news" lol.

 

[kmoose]

I hate than this prick has forced me to actively root for failure. I will cheer on the men on the field, but fuck jack and fuck bk

Nothing has forced you to root for failure. You make a choice to do that, all on your own. And, like any of our choices in life, that choice can come with unintended consequences.

 

[kmoose]

And honestly, 10-2 is only going to be acceptable if that leads into an 11th win in the bowl game. Tired of losing when it matters. 10-3 and embarrassing ourselves yet again isn't going to get it done. But who am I kidding, we all know that will be enough for him to keep his job.

What about this year's team makes you think that the benchmark we should set for them is winning a NY6 bowl game against a Top 10 team, next year. I'm not saying that they couldn't do it. But what makes anyone think that that's the floor we should be setting?

 

[stlnd01]

This schedule is a paper tiger at best. It has tough games (and most of those are only tough because ND can't rise above mediocrity in certain spots), but not many tough teams.

IMO there are 6 "lose this game and you're fired" spots: Temple, BC, Miami (OH), NC St, Wake, Navy

4 "you should win this game, so you are allowed to dump one because s--t happens" spots: MSU, UNC, Miami, Stanford

2 "get embarrassed and you're fired" games: UGA, USC

I'll be gentle, and say win 9 or hit the bricks. Circumstances will arise, don't care, as nobody should. Win 9 or GTFO.

Yeah. It's the sort of schedule where a tough, well-coached team wins 10 games but a sloppy one wins 8 (or less). Also we'll have a lot of experience and talent coming back, but zero expectations nationally. I'd doubt we'll even be ranked preseason, especially if Kizer goes.
All sets up nicely for Kelly to show what he's made of.

 

[stlnd01]

What about this year's team makes you think that the benchmark we should set for them is winning a NY6 bowl game against a Top 10 team, next year. I'm not saying that they couldn't do it. But what makes anyone think that that's the floor we should be setting?

Because we're Notre Dame! Excellence! Tradition! Harrumph!

 

[ShamrockOnHelmet]

The schedule next year looks really tough.

Expect more excuses and talk from Swarbrick/Kelly about how much progress they made when they go 8-4.

Lol. Next years team isn't going 8-4. Looking at the schedule, Kelly's ridiculous play calling and the softness we play with that engulfs the on field product now, I'm struggling to find 5 wins.

 

[ulukinatme]

It's amazing how there's not been one word of potential coaching change from university, in fact quite the opposite yet people here refuse to believe it.

99% chance..... Why wasn't this interview covered by reporters..... Jacks an idiot....... Fuck ND and everyone involved in this decision!!!

Just can't believe jack and the BOT didn't take IE's multiple polls over BKs approval rating as the determinig factor.

Clearly an oversight by Jack and the BOT!

I agree here. It was an absolutely terrible season, there's no sugar coating it. It was unacceptable, but I don't think you can hit the reset button right away here. I think people have forgotten where we came from. Outside of that 2012 team (Which was far from a complete team and needed a lot of luck), we haven't really been dominant since 1993. That was probably the last year we could say we were among the elites in college football, we deserved to be on the field with anyone. It's been a rollercoaster since then, with more downs than ups. We've been through 4 coaches since then, and BK has arguably been the most successful of the 4, but not without his own low points.

It's not like BK was some rube that came in off the streets. I think people forget he's been incredibly successful everywhere he was prior to ND. I don't think he's suddenly forgot how to coach, I think the fact it's ND it hampers your ability to win at times. Look at how we've handled adversity, we can never survive an offseason without shooting ourselves in the foot somehow (Usually academically). What other P5 schools have suspended a starting QB for academic issues? Look at the backlash from self reporting the Frozen 5? You don't see other schools in the news for this stuff.

People are quick to throw BK out, and some of that is understandable. 4-8 is completely unacceptable, but at the same time you have to ask "Who are we realistically going to replace BK with? Who is going to be better?" We replaced Lou, who was also starting to struggle after the recruiting rules were changed and Vinnie moved on, with Bob Davie. Not a home run hire maybe, but he had been groomed for the position. Davie was ousted for Willingham, a mediocre coach that had very limited success at Stanford before we settled on him. We replaced Willingham with a highly successful OC from the NFL, but he wasn't HC material. We're now left with BK, who was wildly successful everywhere before ND. Short of a Harbaugh/Saban/Meyer, who are never coming to ND, where do we go from here? Who can you realistically get to replace BK and is going to do better than every coach that's tried since Lou? Once you can answer that question, then I think you can start the discussion of removing BK.

 

[NDdomer2]

Jack said the things he had to say at the time of the interview imo. If there were things going on behind the scenes currently there really isn't much he can say other than business as usual. The dominoes will fall next week after the championship games if anything happens at all.


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Lol this reminds me of those posters at dr. Office where kitten is hanging by one claw and it says don't give up.

 

[Blaise]

Yeah. It's the sort of schedule where a tough, well-coached team wins 10 games but a sloppy one wins 8 (or less). Also we'll have a lot of experience and talent coming back, but zero expectations nationally. I'd doubt we'll even be ranked preseason, especially if Kizer goes.
All sets up nicely for Kelly to show what he's made of.

Exactly,

Its people on this board thinking this, is why everyone has him being fired and resigning when beat writers and everyone on outside says Kelly is coming back weeks ago

"Oh it must be because Jack and Kelly are lovers"

C'mon

 

[Blaise]

Lol. Next years team isn't going 8-4. Looking at the schedule, Kelly's ridiculous play calling and the softness we play with that engulfs the on field product now, I'm struggling to find 5 wins.

5 wins?

Last year we brought back something like 7 starters...

Next year we bring back way more and most these true Frosh who played will be ready to really up their game..

The team will be greatly improved.. I'm not sure 10 wins improved, but this should at least be a 8 win team... If we can get the right DC.. 9 or 10 is possible... but I agree saying 10 wins is expected next year as the floor is unreasonable and you might as well not watch cuz you are going to be disappointed no matter who the coach was

 

[irishff1014]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We go to the best school in the country with the best coach in the country... Jack Swarbrick just spoke truth <a href="https://t.co/LZzJxWG3rA">https://t.co/LZzJxWG3rA</a></p>— Isaac Rochell (@Isaacrochell90) <a href="https://twitter.com/Isaacrochell90/status/804940420534980613">December 3, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[ShamrockOnHelmet]

5 wins?

Last year we brought back something like 7 starters...

Next year we bring back way more and most these true Frosh who played will be ready to really up their game..

The team will be greatly improved.. I'm not sure 10 wins improved, but this should at least be a 8 win team... If we can get the right DC.. 9 or 10 is possible... but I agree saying 10 wins is expected next year as the floor is unreasonable and you might as well not watch cuz you are going to be disappointed no matter who the coach was

10 wins? I just watched season where the head coach called, what, 47 pass plays in an actual hurricane. And that was the highlight of the season. These guys aren't sniffing 10 wins.

 

[Fbolt]

Like many of you I've been checking sports highlights every morning and evening waiting to see the headline of BK leaving/or being fired. Apparently not going to happen.

The DC choice needs to be killer.

 

[bkess8]

Like many of you I've been checking sports highlights every morning and evening waiting to see the headline of BK leaving/or being fired. Apparently not going to happen.

The DC choice needs to be killer.

Prepare to be disappointed!

 

[BobbyMac]

Like many of you I've been checking sports highlights every morning and evening waiting to see the headline of BK leaving/or being fired. Apparently not going to happen.

The DC choice needs to be killer.

Jimmy Lake - Washington.

 

[Hammer Of The Gods]

Like many of you I've been checking sports highlights every morning and evening waiting to see the headline of BK leaving/or being fired. Apparently not going to happen.

The DC choice needs to be killer.

Not happening. The Next DC will be someone he works with currently or someone from his past. No good DC in there right mind would work for Brian Kelly.

 

[BobbyMac]

Not happening. The Next DC will be someone he works with currently or someone from his past. No good DC in there right mind would work for Brian Kelly.

With the trend in 3 year contracts you work for:

1. The Money

2. The School

3. The HC

ND advantage is no matter what the team's record, it's a great resume stuffer.


* All that said, sounds like Elston's the pick.

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[Hammer Of The Gods]

With the trend in 3 year contracts you work for:

1. The Money

2. The School

3. The HC

ND advantage is no matter what the team's record, it's a great resume stuffer.


* All that said, sounds like Elston's the pick.

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I don't disagree. I just think that Kelly is that brutally arrogant that he can't get out of his own way. If its one of his 'guys' current or past then its same ole' same ole' but IF he talked a unfamiliar face in to coming to South Bend, I can't imagine him letting him do his thing, hire is position coaches and so on.

Hell, Sanford was hired to be OC correct? We've got some three headed disaster because he won't give it up.

If it is in fact Elston. That just prove the point and without a shadow of a doubt we will have another typical Brian Kelly season. 8-5 or so with some real head scratchers.

 

[phork]

10-2 is my floor next year. Anything less and he should be fired.

 

[stlnd01]

I've never gotten the "arrogant" critique. It's a hard job. You'd damn well better be arrogant - in the sense that you believe in what you're doing - or you'll get eaten alive.
Kelly has been a head college football coach for 25 years. He knows what he's doing. Like any coach, Brian Kelly needs to evolve as the game does, and evolution requires humility. But he's evolved before, he'll do it again.
To me the bigger question is if he still has the drive necessary to succeed at Notre Dame. He looks burned out. Can't say I blame him. But it's not about "arrogance."

 

[Hammer Of The Gods]

I've never gotten the "arrogant" critique. It's a hard job. You'd damn well better be arrogant - in the sense that you believe in what you're doing - or you'll get eaten alive.
Kelly has been a head college football coach for 25 years. He knows what he's doing. Like any coach, Brian Kelly needs to evolve as the game does, and evolution requires humility. But he's evolved before, he'll do it again.
To me the bigger question is if he still has the drive necessary to succeed at Notre Dame. He looks burned out. Can't say I blame him. But it's not about "arrogance."

He takes no accountability to speak of. Everyone he hires he has to 'know' so he can keep his thumb on them. He refuses to tell Longo to hit the streets. He refuses to alter his offensive scheme in a f'ing hurricane. He treats his QB's like trash and because of his unwillingness to commit to either Kizer or Malik it cost us not only Texas but the season IMO. Arrogance is fine when you are proven winner. Has Kelly helped the program? Sure, he as, I appreciate that. But on paper, he essentially has accomplished nothing. Ever. Outside of Grand Valley State.

Yet he acts like hes Nick Saban.

He refuses to acknowledge all the things that are blatantly wrong with not only the team but the program. Until he makes very hard, personal decisions. I'll stand by my stance that he is to arrogant to get out of his own way.

 

[kmoose]

He takes no accountability to speak of. Everyone he hires he has to 'know' so he can keep his thumb on them. He refuses to tell Longo to hit the streets. He refuses to alter his offensive scheme in a f'ing hurricane. He treats his QB's like trash and because of his unwillingness to commit to either Kizer or Malik it cost us not only Texas but the season IMO. Arrogance is fine when you are proven winner. Has Kelly helped the program? Sure, he as, I appreciate that. But on paper, he essentially has accomplished nothing. Ever. Outside of Grand Valley State.

Yet he acts like hes Nick Saban.

He refuses to acknowledge all the things that are blatantly wrong with not only the team but the program. Until he makes very hard, personal decisions. I'll stand by my stance that he is to arrogant to get out of his own way.

You've spent a lot of time with him, then?

 

[NDgradstudent]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As ND AD Jack Swarbrick declines all media requests to be interviewed about the football program, these signs are popping up on campus. <a href="https://t.co/71rC34lqMx">pic.twitter.com/71rC34lqMx</a></p>— Tim Ring (@timringTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/timringTV/status/805096287636836353">December 3, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[ThePiombino]

10-2 is my floor next year. Anything less and he should be fired.

I think who the Ws and Ls are against are way more important than the total of either. This program desperately needs some signature wins. 10-2 doesn't matter if the two losses are against the only two decent teams on our schedule

 

[BobbyMac]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As ND AD Jack Swarbrick declines all media requests to be interviewed about the football program, these signs are popping up on campus. <a href="https://t.co/71rC34lqMx">pic.twitter.com/71rC34lqMx</a></p>— Tim Ring (@timringTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/timringTV/status/805096287636836353">December 3, 2016</a></blockquote>
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They say the arsonist is always at the scene... there to admire his handy work...

 

[IrishLion]

Temple is currently beating the dogshit out of Navy.

There is no reason for it, but it's making me unreasonably upset at BK anyway.

I'm tired of mediocrity.

 

[Hammer Of The Gods]

You've spent a lot of time with him, then?

lol, Moose, you have no Idea...me and BK are tight!!

in all seriousness, i'm judging him like I see him. Which is via a TV screen, Computer monitor etc...

just like 99% of the guys on here.

 

[Hammer Of The Gods]

Temple is currently beating the dogshit out of Navy.

There is no reason for it, but it's making me unreasonably upset at BK anyway.

I'm tired of mediocrity.

I would gladly take Ruhle as our next head coach, so i'm not knocking Temple. But how Temple and some of these other teams stuff Navy and smoke them, and we make them all look like all Americans. Blows my mind.