Who do you want to replace Brian Kelly?

[Irish#1]

Okay, everyone lay their dicks on the table. Let's see who's really right.

 

[kmoose]

You are cherry picking individual points from the list and saying each one by itself isn't a big deal, and I agree. However, when they all happen within a week of another, it creates drama. Obviously. Look at all the message boards.

I didn't cherry pick anything. I gave a response to EVERY point.

 

[Free Manera]

I didn't cherry pick anything. I gave a response to EVERY point.

Is your argument that a statement from Swarbrick is somehow a bad idea? I don't get it.

 

[kmoose]

Is your argument that a statement from Swarbrick is somehow a bad idea? I don't get it.

No. Not at all. My argument is that Swarbrick doesn't NEED to make a statement. He's already made one. And if we say that Jack needs to issue another statement now, because we've had decommits and there has been a lot of press about Kelly's future being uncertain.......... then we are going to have to release a statement almost every month, because the media isn't going to just let it go. Swarbrick has already told them, once, that Kelly would be the coach for 2017, and they continue to write stories about his uncertain future. So what makes anyone think that they will stop if he puts out another statement now?

 

[NDgradstudent]

The latest from F. Lee Swarbrick:

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Swarbrick denies that anything is going on. Everything is fine, etc.

Also last year was "one of the best coaching jobs he has seen." Again, we were 0-3 vs. the good teams last year. Last year's team underachieved. Enough with acting like last year was a huge triumph. It wasn't.

 

[Cali_domer]

Done.....

 

[GATTACA!]

not sure what else to say other than at the start of the season we lost to a TERRIBLE texas, msu and duke team

at the end of the season we beat miami, lost by 3 to the team playing in the acc championship game, lost by 1 point to Navy currently #19 (should have beat them) and played usc extremely hard except for TERRIBLE special teams we may have won...so we didn't regress

 

[NDRock]

I don't have the stomach to watch that video. Oh well, more free time this offseason.

 

[Cali_domer]

I don't have the stomach to watch that video. Oh well, more free time this offseason.

Yep done, head in the sand...

 

[Domina Nostra]

See everybody in 2018!

 

[Cali_domer]

See everybody in 2018!

Enjoy your summer!!! I know my wife will!!!!!!!

 

[gkIrish]

The latest from F. Lee Swarbrick:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/YjF1YXSOepA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Swarbrick denies that anything is going on. Everything is fine, etc.

Also last year was "one of the best coaching jobs he has seen." Again, we were 0-3 vs. the good teams last year. Last year's team underachieved. Enough with acting like last year was a huge triumph. It wasn't.

1) Can someone briefly summarize this? Can't listen at work. Reps will be awarded.
2) When was it taped?
3) Does he ever specifically say Brian Kelly will be our coach in 2017?

 

[NDgradstudent]

Swarbrick also says that "there is no standard" for wins next year in order to keep Kelly.

As Han Solo said a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away...

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.starwars.com/embed/510811f8dd93d41954c0cb5a" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen scrolling="no"></iframe><br/><a href="http://www.starwars.com/video/we-re-in-trouble">We're In Trouble on Disney Video</a>

 

[Free Manera]

1) Can someone briefly summarize this? Can't listen at work. Reps will be awarded.
2) When was it taped?
3) Does he ever specifically say Brian Kelly will be our coach in 2017?

It was recorded this week. It's business as usual, Kelly is staying. Basically Swarbrick thinks 2015 was an incredible coaching job so Kelly gets a pass for 2016.

 

[gkIrish]

It was recorded this week. It's business as usual, Kelly is staying. Basically Swarbrick thinks 2015 was an incredible coaching job so Kelly gets a pass for 2016.

 

[NCND]

Yuck. Hope the crowd boos the shit out of BK when Georgia runs for 500 yards in next years BIG night game.

 

[NDgradstudent]

1) Can someone briefly summarize this? Can't listen at work. Reps will be awarded.
2) When was it taped?
3) Does he ever specifically say Brian Kelly will be our coach in 2017?

(1) Summary:
- Not negotiating a buyout with Kelly
- "Last year was one of the best coaching jobs I have seen...I don't look at it [this year] in isolation"
- Wins and losses alone do not speak to the health of the program
- "This is one of the more remarkable teams in terms if its identity" (?)
- He discusses the NCAA violations
- He last spoke with Kelly "yesterday [Tuesday]"
- Swarbrick says he "talked" with Kelly about whether or not he is looking for another job and already knew the answer, which we are meant to assume was no but he never actually says was no.
- No "standard" for wins next year in order to keep BK. He notes that some teams have lost three QBs in a single season (yeah, didn't that happen to OSU? And then they won a title? Because they have an elite coach). The point is that we cannot know what will happen next season and cannot set a win number in advance.

(2) It was taped Wednesday afternoon.

(3) Yes, he says that BK will be our coach next year (the question starts at 23:09) although not in so many words. He never says those exact words, but I'm not sure how else to interpret it. And then he says that we should move on to basketball. (We already have, Jack!)

 

[phgreek]

The latest from F. Lee Swarbrick:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/YjF1YXSOepA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Swarbrick denies that anything is going on. Everything is fine, etc.

Also last year was "one of the best coaching jobs he has seen." Again, we were 0-3 vs. the good teams last year. Last year's team underachieved. Enough with acting like last year was a huge triumph. It wasn't.

...There ya go...thats what I was looking for from Jack.

unless Kelly bails on his own...he will run out with the team in '17. If Current commits bail, they won't have left because of Jack failing to do his PR part...

 

[GATTACA!]

I'm dead on the inside.

 

[gkIrish]

I wonder why the beat writers have not put out something

 

[ab2cmiller]

Summary:
- Not negotiating a buyout with Kelly
- "Last year was one of the best coaching jobs I have seen...I don't look at it [this year] in isolation"
- Wins and losses alone do not speak to the health of the program
- "This is one of the more remarkable teams in terms if its identity" (?)
- He discusses the NCAA violations
- He last spoke with Kelly on "yesterday [Tuesday]"
- Swarbrick says he "talked" with Kelly about whether or not he is looking for another job and already knew the answer, which we are meant to assume was no but he never actually says was no.

It was taped Wednesday afternoon.

Yes, he says that BK will be our coach next year. And that we should move on to basketball. (We already have, Jack!)

For me, the main troubling item of that interview was that Jack avoided answering this question directly. I believe BK was looking and Jack read him the riot act.

 

[kmoose]

For me, the main troubling item of that interview was that Jack avoided answering this question directly. I believe BK was looking and Jack read him the riot act.

Or.......... he might not have wanted to out Kelly's agent as being the source of all of the controversy, since he has to negotiate with Kelly's agent. But, either way, Swarbrick sure seemed convinced that this(Kelly looking for other work) was a non-issue; whether it never was, or it was and has been taken care of.

 

[arahop]

I'm dead on the inside.

Me too.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

Or.......... he might not have wanted to out Kelly's agent as being the source of all of the controversy, since he has to negotiate with Kelly's agent. But, either way, Swarbrick sure seemed convinced that this(Kelly looking for other work) was a non-issue; whether it never was, or it was and has been taken care of.

It might still be an issue. Swarbrick's job is to tell the kids that all is well if mommy and daddy are going to stay together.

 

[tko]

dwshade=jack nolan

 

[kmoose]

It might still be an issue. Swarbrick's job is to tell the kids that all is well if mommy and daddy are going to stay together.

That's a possibility, sure. I never said it wasn't.

I was impressed with Nolan. He asked all of the questions that fans have been talking about. He asked them in a non-confrontational manner, but he made Swarbrick either answer the question or dodge it.

 

[stlnd01]

My pet theory is that Swarbrick wants - has always wanted and planned - to keep BK on. And Kelly wanted and planned to stay. But Swarbrick started getting pressure from above. BK felt it and maybe started looking around. But it's not like Swarbrick has a better option up his sleeve, so he can't push BK out. Nor does BK have another job at this point, so he's not going to go first.
So basically they're all kind of in limbo for now. Would also explain why there's been no movement on the rest of the coaching staff. You don't hire or fire assistants if you don't know your own status.

 

[kmoose]

My pet theory is that Swarbrick wants - has always wanted and planned - to keep BK on. And Kelly wanted and planned to stay. But Swarbrick started getting pressure from above. BK felt it and maybe started looking around. But it's not like Swarbrick has a better option up his sleeve, so he can't push BK out. Nor does BK have another job at this point, so he's not going to go first.
So basically they're all kind of in limbo for now. Would also explain why there's been no movement on the rest of the coaching staff. You don't hire or fire assistants if you don't know your own status.

You do realize ND's season just ended 6 days ago and some of the coaches that we might want to target are still getting ready for games this weekend, right?

 

[stlnd01]

You do realize ND's season just ended 6 days ago and some of the coaches that we might want to target are still getting ready for games this weekend, right?

I do. But most teams are done and it's pretty much open season on assistants at this point. There isn't even any chatter around ND aside from this Elston rumor.
If nothing else we might start letting people go. Unless we're playing the post-Signing-Day merry-go-round game, which I can see but I think we need a DC sooner than that.

 

[GATTACA!]

The latest from F. Lee Swarbrick:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/YjF1YXSOepA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Swarbrick denies that anything is going on. Everything is fine, etc.

Also last year was "one of the best coaching jobs he has seen." Again, we were 0-3 vs. the good teams last year. Last year's team underachieved. Enough with acting like last year was a huge triumph. It wasn't.

Just now getting a chance to listen to the full interview. Interesting that Jack says that the university is appealing the NCAA ruling on the grounds of their academic autonomy. I was under the impression that they were appealing it based on precedent set by other punishments the NCAA had previously handed down. Sounds like something that could drag on for quite some time.