Stanford Recruiting and Everything Else

[ResLife Hero]

Why TF does Stanford get every secondary member we want?

Is it the Richard Sherman effect? Last year it seemed like we were eating their table scraps at safety.

 

[Legacy]

Stanford FB Patrick Skov announced plans to transfer to Georgia Tech

 

[Andy in Sactown]

Stanford FB Patrick Skov announced plans to transfer to Georgia Tech

Just what we needed facing Paul Johnson and Georgia Tech in week 3.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

Just what we needed facing Paul Johnson and Georgia Tech in week 3.

We can't take any games lightly.

 

[PANDFAN]

geez, this isn't shane....but yes we can't take any games easily..

 

[Legacy]

Ex-Stanford RB Kesley Young lands at Boise State, eligible in 2015

Stanford has had four graduate transfers this year (none in prior years). They have had one grad transfer into the program in 2015. Also, Stanford has had only two undergraduate transfers in the last five classes (2010-14) !!

Five recruits have gone on missions from six classes (2010-15). Three of those five have returned to Stanford. The other two were from the Class of 2015.

Before any walkons are given scholarships, Stanford has seventy-eight players on scholarship, which is almost where USC is after their scholarship reductions entering 2015. Stanford has fifteen seniors in 2015 (without eligibility left) and eleven redshirt seniors. They may well have some of those who do not seek a fifth year.

Over the last six classes (2010-15), Stanford has given out 112 scholarships (counting the two that have left for missions), averaging 18.67 per year. Notre Dame has had 110 enrollees over the last five classes, averaging 22 per year.

 

[GoldenToTheGrave]

Ex-Stanford RB Kesley Young lands at Boise State, eligible in 2015

Stanford has had two graduate transfers this year (none in prior years). They have had only two undergraduate transfers in the last five classes (2010-14) !!

Five recruits have gone on missions from six classes (2010-15). Three of those five have returned to Stanford. The other two were from the Class of 2015.

Before any walkons are given scholarships, Stanford has seventy-seven players on scholarship, which is almost where USC is after their scholarship reductions entering 2015. Stanford has fifteen seniors in 2015 (without eligibility left) and eleven redshirt seniors. They may well have some of those who do not seek a fifth year.

Over the last six classes (2010-15), Stanford has given out 112 scholarships (counting the two that have left for missions), averaging 18.67 per year. Notre Dame has had 110 enrollees over the last five classes, averaging 22 per year.

They may have some serious depth problems this year, and from what little I've read their defensive line problems could be catastrophic (we can hope). Their O-line should be good even after loosing Peat and their QB situation is decent but I feel reasonably confident we're seeing Stanford returning to the historical mean.

 

[Legacy]

2015 looks good for Stanford football (from the Stanford Daily)

 

[IrishLax]

2015 looks good for Stanford football (from the Stanford Daily)

Sometimes I read Stanford stuff and it just cracks me up. That article doesn't attempt to give any depth or critical analysis of the team. It's just "this guy is good. This guy is really good. This guy is pretty good." ... like honestly if you just gave me a roster with no knowledge of the team I could write that same article.

Truth is the only position group where they are better than ND is defensive line. And maybe TE.

 

[Rocket89]

Sometimes I read Stanford stuff and it just cracks me up. That article doesn't attempt to give any depth or critical analysis of the team. It's just "this guy is good. This guy is really good. This guy is pretty good." ... like honestly if you just gave me a roster with no knowledge of the team I could write that same article.

Truth is the only position group where they are better than ND is defensive line. And maybe TE.

Hoo boy, I don't know.

DE Aziz Shittu Sr- 19 tackles, 0.5 sacks
DT Solomon Thomas, RS Fr- He'll be good
DT Harrison Phillips, So- 9 tackles, 2 sacks
DE Brennan Scarlett 5th Sr- Cal transfer, 44 tackles, 2.5 sacks
DE Jordan Watkins, RS Jr- 0 career tackles
DE Nate Lohn, RS Jr- 1 career tackle
DE Dylan Jackson, Fr- 3 star
DE Gabe Reid, Fr- 3 star

73 career tackles and 5 sacks from their entire line--with half of that production coming from a transfer who hasn't played for them yet. They lost all three starters (Leuders, Parry, Anderson) in addition to 7(!) other bodies.

Since they're a 3-4 I guess you could add Henry Anderson. But still, their D-line is scary thin and almost completely unproven across the board---which is why they're bulking up Thomas and Phillips to ridiculous proportions just so they can have SOMEONE with size inside. It looks like their worst position on their roster by a fair margin.

 

[IrishLax]

Hoo boy, I don't know.

DE Aziz Shittu Sr- 19 tackles, 0.5 sacks
DT Solomon Thomas, RS Fr- He'll be good
DT Harrison Phillips, So- 9 tackles, 2 sacks
DE Brennan Scarlett 5th Sr- Cal transfer, 44 tackles, 2.5 sacks
DE Jordan Watkins, RS Jr- 0 career tackles
DE Nate Lohn, RS Jr- 1 career tackle
DE Dylan Jackson, Fr- 3 star
DE Gabe Reid, Fr- 3 star

73 career tackles and 5 sacks from their entire line--with half of that production coming from a transfer who hasn't played for them yet. They lost all three starters (Leuders, Parry, Anderson) in addition to 7(!) other bodies.

Since they're a 3-4 I guess you could add Henry Anderson. But still, their D-line is scary thin and almost completely unproven across the board---which is why they're bulking up Thomas and Phillips to ridiculous proportions just so they can have SOMEONE with size inside. It looks like their worst position on their roster by a fair margin.

Man, thanks for the perspective. I guess most of my opinion is based off hype and what I remember from recruiting. I had no inkling that they were that unproven. Though Aziz was showing flashes before he got hurt, and Thomas is supposed to be for real.

You think it's worse than WR, S, or RB though? I like McCaffrey a lot but outside of him their skill position players just seem rather ordinary. I also don't think Hogan is very good, and I think their OL is overrated but good. And they lost most of their good secondary players.

If their DL isn't better than ND's then I don't know if they have single position group that's better than what the Irish will roll out this fall.

 

[ACamp1900]

theyre better at QB...... Sorry, just sayin....

 

[Rocket89]

Man, thanks for the perspective. I guess most of my opinion is based off hype and what I remember from recruiting. I had no inkling that they were that unproven. Though Aziz was showing flashes before he got hurt, and Thomas is supposed to be for real.

You think it's worse than WR, S, or RB though? I like McCaffrey a lot but outside of him their skill position players just seem rather ordinary. I also don't think Hogan is very good, and I think their OL is overrated but good. And they lost most of their good secondary players.

If their DL isn't better than ND's then I don't know if they have single position group that's better than what the Irish will roll out this fall.

I think their running backs are solid. Wright is good.. Ditto for Sanders. McCaffrey will be annoying to play against, I'm sure.

Receivers are decent. Cajuste is probably underrated nationally. Rector took a step back last year but has big play ability. Owusu is okay, and Irwin could be an impact freshman.

If Hoffpauir plays baseball, yeah, their safety situation isn't great. That has to be scary for them.

It's just with their line...I think Phillips has bulked up to 280 something and he's the biggest guy right now. All four nose guards are gone. I can't imagine if we were still in a 3-4 and this happened to us and we were relying on someone like Matuska to pack on 40 pounds in one off-season to find a NG starter. Add that, plus their terrible depth and lack of production from anyone. It's nuts.

But of course they still have like 4 or 5 really good linebackers and I'm sure they'll scrape together another tough defense somehow thru their dumb magic.

 

[PANDFAN]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tight End Charlie Hopkins Transfers to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/UVa?src=hash">#UVa</a> football team from Stanford <a href="http://t.co/cZVwPFKdcO">http://t.co/cZVwPFKdcO</a> <a href="http://t.co/C6ZfI7XJ0v">pic.twitter.com/C6ZfI7XJ0v</a></p>— StreakingTheLawn.com (@TheUVAFool) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheUVAFool/status/593840410394554368">April 30, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[IrishSteelhead]

Stanford band banned from road games for the entire 2015 season.

 

[PANDFAN]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="ro" dir="ltr">Penn State adds OL Kevin Reihner, a graduate transfer from Stanford</p>— Brett McMurphy (@McMurphyESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/McMurphyESPN/status/600338179963617280">May 18, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[zelezo vlk]

Stanford band banned from road games for the entire 2015 season.

I saw and am very happy.

 

[ResLife Hero]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Stanford?src=hash">#Stanford</a> adds 3rd <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ESPN300?src=hash">#ESPN300</a> offensive commitment - Scout's Take on the latest Cardinal verbal OL Clark Yarbrough <a href="http://t.co/AH2HYTXdfa">http://t.co/AH2HYTXdfa</a></p>— Craig Haubert (@CraigHaubert) <a href="https://twitter.com/CraigHaubert/status/600838306742607872">May 20, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[dshans]

Stanford band banned from road games for the entire 2015 season.

I saw and am very happy.

I didn't see, but am also not at all happy.

I'm not a fan of "pre-publication" censorship.

I was in the stands in Palo Alto when the band performed the "offensive" skit of notoriety involving a a faux Cardinal and faux nuns. It was far more bad satire than offensive commentary. The Cardinal Band and "groans" are a tradition.

Roll with it. Go with the creative flow. Don't go all Charlie Hebdo.





Yes, I have what many consider a skewed sense of humor.

 

[ResLife Hero]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">After a long wait <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Stanford?src=hash">#Stanford</a> finally got their WR of the future with 4-star Simi Fehoko: <a href="http://t.co/K01u16r0F3">http://t.co/K01u16r0F3</a> <a href="http://t.co/MjK72zEgat">pic.twitter.com/MjK72zEgat</a></p>— Rivals.com (@Rivals) <a href="https://twitter.com/Rivals/status/623168052159344640">July 20, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[BobbyMac]

This just in... Simi Fehoko will cross train at safety.


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[ResLife Hero]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">4-Star DB Treyjohn Butler picks <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Stanford?src=hash">#Stanford</a> over <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ASU?src=hash">#ASU</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cal?src=hash">#Cal</a>. <a href="http://t.co/8mWOU43mcy">http://t.co/8mWOU43mcy</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NerdNation?src=hash">#NerdNation</a> <a href="http://t.co/NmeYMJQIla">pic.twitter.com/NmeYMJQIla</a></p>— Rivals.com (@Rivals) <a href="https://twitter.com/Rivals/status/632303888792731648">August 14, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[Johannes]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Stanford WR Michael Rector will be out for an unspecified amount of time because of a disciplinary issue. Shaw wouldn't indicate how long</p>— David Lombardi (@LombardiESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/LombardiESPN/status/632745655480356864">August 16, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I don't know much about the depth of the Cardinal receiving corps, but I believe that Rector and Cajuste are the proven commodities. Hogan isn't much of a threat if he has no targets.

 

[ThePiombino]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Stanford WR Michael Rector will be out for an unspecified amount of time because of a disciplinary issue. Shaw wouldn't indicate how long</p>— David Lombardi (@LombardiESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/LombardiESPN/status/632745655480356864">August 16, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I don't know much about the depth of the Cardinal receiving corps, but I believe that Rector and Cajuste are the proven commodities. Hogan isn't much of a threat if he has no targets.

It's nice to see this shit happens at Stanford, too. Just a little reminder that ND isn't as snake bitten as we'd like to think sometimes.

 

[BobbyMac]

I don't know much about the depth of the Cardinal receiving corps, but I believe that Rector and Cajuste are the proven commodities. Hogan isn't much of a threat if he has no targets.

Trent Irwin will be an instant star. Best route runner in the Bay since Fred Biletnikoff.

 

[ResLife Hero]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Stanford?src=hash">#Stanford</a> w/ a MONSTER Commitment from 3-Star OL Henry Hattis (6-7, 270) <a href="http://t.co/qx0tMoN3Qg">http://t.co/qx0tMoN3Qg</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/RyanBartow">@RyanBartow</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/bartonsimmons">@bartonsimmons</a></p>— Justin Hopkins (@JHopkins247) <a href="https://twitter.com/JHopkins247/status/633123586031513600">August 17, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Big kid.

 

[dublinirish]

Trent Irwin will be an instant star. Best route runner in the Bay since Fred Biletnikoff.

cism!

 

[irishknight35]

Trent Irwin can make instant potatoes. He's the best paper route boy in the area of the Bay since Frankie Ballstein.

 

[Legacy]

Scarlett never came close to having a committable offer from us.

Truth is, Stanford and ND compete for a lot of the same guys but ND wins far more of the recruiting battles with Stanford where we're the top 2. Edwards and Alexander are the only guys in recent memory where we finished directly second to them. For example, Solomon Thomas was awesome but he was also never coming to ND. Usually this means there is something about ND that turned them off (location, religion, etc.) that isn't a turnoff about Stanford.

Now that we are about to enter the season, it's a good time to assess the ND-Stanford recruiting wars. When I looked at the commitments and targets for ND and for Stanford, I was surprised that there were not more battles for recruits. Geography makes some difference as do individual needs for the class and early commitments.

Stanford never offered any of Notre Dame's current fourteen commitments. Of Stanford's
current fifteen commitments, three had Notre Dame offers - Curtis Robinson, OLB; David Long, CB; and Nygel Edmonds, S. However, Edmonds was offered after his verbal commitment to Stanford. Long was offered by ND three months prior to his commitment, but may not have been a top target for the Irish. Robinson made unofficials to both ND and Stanford (and no one else). Chalk up one for Stanford.

Stanford and ND do not share any of their top offensive targets. The seven whom the two schools are targeting are on the defensive side.

First, two LBs - Jonathan Jones (Fla) has a favorite of Michigan. ND and Stanford are in the next group. Jones will have an Official Visit to ND.
Jeffrey McCulloch (Texas) puts both schools in his top group (of 13), but may well stay in Texas.

Demetris Robertson may take an OV to ND for the Texas game and may make an unofficial visit to Stanford prior to the season beginning.

The final three are all safeties, a position that both schools seem to identify similar targets.
Both Ikene Okeke (Tenn) and Chacho Ulloa (Ca) have Stanford and ND in their final group (per 247) but ND is in good shape with both.
Andrew Pryts (Pa) also has Stanford and ND in his final group and has made unofficial visits to both, though Penn State may be the team to beat.

As far as room in each school's class at the DB position, Stanford has three CBs and one S verbally committed. ND has one CB and one S.

Anyone I miss?

 

[ResLife Hero]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Elite 2017 TE Colby Parkinson wastes no time committing to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Stanford?src=hash">#Stanford</a>, was just offered Friday <a href="https://t.co/Zl56FbHh3q">https://t.co/Zl56FbHh3q</a></p>— Greg Biggins (@GregBiggins) <a href="https://twitter.com/GregBiggins/status/678322501957488640">December 19, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Ranked right up there with Brock and Cole.