Silly Season 2015/2016 (Coaching Changes)

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South Bend should be an easy sell for Harbaugh. It's close to all his relatives (Crean at IU, John at UM), the Catholic thing, and ND is a high paying job. If he wants an NFL job and is fired he could probably get one, but maybe John could sell him on the college lifestyle. ND seems like it'll give whatever is needed to get assistants and can pay him. What's 1 or 2 more measly million dollars a year?

1) He's a top 10 NFL coach
2) Due to #1 he'll stay in the NFL if/when he's out of Baltimore
3) He hasn't coached in college in nearly 20 years

That's the exact opposite of an easy sell, I think.

Also, the fact that roughly 95% of comments about John Harbaugh coming to ND lead off (and end LOL) with "devout Catholic" says enough about the situation.
 

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Really? I think he's exactly what we need.

I'm not debating that. I came of age with Mike Ditka, personality is great when you're winning. Just don't see his style being a match for the old guard at ND.

Which is fine if they'll just pay Saban $12M and get it over with.



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Man, this man speaks my language. I wish he was replacing Kelly, I really do. ND needs a front man like this or someone like Sanford. The youthful energy building a culture is so key, something sustainable over time. Where is our culture at this time? Certainly it's better than Golfingham and Weis eras, but this past year who knows now. Hopefully the Long and Elko and the S&C hires help in this area for the time being.
 

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Fleck got 5 kids to flip from WMU to Minnesota during his first day on the job.

It's clear the kids love him; I think it's great for those kids to have an opportunity to play B1G football; I think it's kind of doing your former team and the next WMU headcoach dirty to jack a chuck of their class immediately; I think I've gotta root for Minnesota now, especially as their QB commit is from a school I used to play against.

I know he annoys a lot of people, and a lot of people "in the know" think he's got some baggage and issues that make him unlikable to a lot of reporters, but I personally hope he does well. Until there's hard evidence out there that he's just not a good dude, there's no reason to call the guy a "phony" and hope he "flops," which I've seen from professional journalists several times the past two days.
 

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I would love John Harbaugh, and don't mind waiting for Sanford to come back.

However, as good as Fleck would be, his main RTB speech would be worthless since we burnt all the damn boats in South Carolina a couple of years ago.
 

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Fleck got 5 kids to flip from WMU to Minnesota during his first day on the job.

It's clear the kids love him; I think it's great for those kids to have an opportunity to play B1G football; I think it's kind of doing your former team and the next WMU headcoach dirty to jack a chuck of their class immediately; I think I've gotta root for Minnesota now, especially as their QB commit is from a school I used to play against.

I know he annoys a lot of people, and a lot of people "in the know" think he's got some baggage and issues that make him unlikable to a lot of reporters, but I personally hope he does well. Until there's hard evidence out there that he's just not a good dude, there's no reason to call the guy a "phony" and hope he "flops," which I've seen from professional journalists several times the past two days.

Obviously I'm a big fan of Fleck, but your last paragraph is spot on. The collective Kalamazoo community wasn't all on board with him and a great deal of people only tolerated him because he was winning. Off the field, he had a lot of baggage. Some of it just rumors, but some of it absolutely true.
 

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Narduzzi has always hated ND. No way he comes here.

I'm fairly certain if ND offered him the job he'd take it immediately.

Plus I think he is wildly overrated. His defense at Pitt, which he is very hands on with, has stunk for his two years. ND can do better.

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How much money do you think it would take to get John Harbaugh? Like 7-8 mil a year? I would actually drive to South Bend and wait outside his office for ten hours to kiss Swarbricks feet.

I don't think Harbaugh is very plausible, but I think if we'd be willing to pay up to $10mil/year for the right guy (Harbaugh, Saban, etc.)... none of which are very likely to want to come here.

Sanford is going to crush at WKU... and I think there's a very real possibility he's who we end up with. I think he's the floor, but it's hard to say if ND could get anyone better (unless you consider guys like Fleck or Mullen better).

This year, when ND did some "fact finding" with a search committee starting in case they had to replace Kelly the best candidates that were interested were Rhule and Narduzzi. That basically says it all about how "attractive" the job is right now, but a lot of things can change in a year.
 

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I don't think Harbaugh is very plausible, but I think if we'd be willing to pay up to $10mil/year for the right guy (Harbaugh, Saban, etc.)... none of which are very likely to want to come here.

Sanford is going to crush at WKU... and I think there's a very real possibility he's who we end up with. I think he's the floor, but it's hard to say if ND could get anyone better (unless you consider guys like Fleck or Mullen better).

This year, when ND did some "fact finding" with a search committee starting in case they had to replace Kelly the best candidates that were interested were Rhule and Narduzzi. That basically says it all about how "attractive" the job is right now, but a lot of things can change in a year.

Assuming Fleck was not identified as a candidate due to "baggage?"
 

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What about Rhule? and why did he take the Houston job? Isn't Temple to Houston a bit sideways?
 

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I don't think Harbaugh is very plausible, but I think if we'd be willing to pay up to $10mil/year for the right guy (Harbaugh, Saban, etc.)... none of which are very likely to want to come here.

Sanford is going to crush at WKU... and I think there's a very real possibility he's who we end up with. I think he's the floor, but it's hard to say if ND could get anyone better (unless you consider guys like Fleck or Mullen better).

This year, when ND did some "fact finding" with a search committee starting in case they had to replace Kelly the best candidates that were interested were Rhule and Narduzzi. That basically says it all about how "attractive" the job is right now, but a lot of things can change in a year.

Nard Dog did do something that pretty much no one has done in the past two years - beat Dabo. He also took it to PSU who ended up being pretty good. With better recruits and a better staff he could be a very good coach at ND.
 

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Nard Dog did do something that pretty much no one has done in the past two years - beat Dabo. He also took it to PSU who ended up being pretty good. With better recruits and a better staff he could be a very good coach at ND.

Let's see how he does without Matt Canada and one of the greatest runningbacks in Pitt history...one of the better backs in history, period.
 

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Let's see how he does without Matt Canada and one of the greatest runningbacks in Pitt history...one of the better backs in history, period.

This hits the nail on the head. Football outsiders' advanced statistics had Pitt ranked third in total offense. Canada going to LSU is a huge loss.

FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2016 NCAA S&P+ RATINGS, OFFENSE

Going off on a tangent here, but I think Orgeron is going to be a huge success at LSU in a similar way to Dabo at Clemson. That is, a great rah-rah guy and salesman of the program who has elite coordinators. Canada and Arranda both led top 5 offensive and defensive units last season.
 
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Let's see how he does without Matt Canada and one of the greatest runningbacks in Pitt history...one of the better backs in history, period.

You talking about Conner? I think that's a little strong. I think guys like Shady McCoy, Tony Dorsett, Dion Lewis and Curtis Martin might have something to say about that. Ha
 

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You talking about Conner? I think that's a little strong. I think guys like Shady McCoy, Tony Dorsett, Dion Lewis and Curtis Martin might have something to say about that. Ha

He's second all time on their rushing list and still has a year of eligibility left which he is forgoing. He beat cancer. The kid is amazing.

No one is gonna top Dorsett, but Conner was phenomenal. What makes it all that more impressive is that he is possibly better than all the guys you named. Pitt has had some absolute great RBs.
 

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He's second all time on their rushing list and still has a year of eligibility left which he is forgoing. He beat cancer. The kid is amazing.

No one is gonna top Dorsett, but Conner was phenomenal. What makes it all that more impressive is that he is possibly better than all the guys you named. Pitt has had some absolute great RBs.

Yeah, stats shmats... you might be too young to remember most of these guys. Shady only played his first two seasons, otherwise he would probably have been on top.

Conner has a great story and is a damn fine back, but I don't put him in the "best ever at Pitt" discussion. As that's pretty rare air.
 

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I don't think Harbaugh is very plausible, but I think if we'd be willing to pay up to $10mil/year for the right guy (Harbaugh, Saban, etc.)... none of which are very likely to want to come here.

Sanford is going to crush at WKU... and I think there's a very real possibility he's who we end up with. I think he's the floor, but it's hard to say if ND could get anyone better (unless you consider guys like Fleck or Mullen better).

This year, when ND did some "fact finding" with a search committee starting in case they had to replace Kelly the best candidates that were interested were Rhule and Narduzzi. That basically says it all about how "attractive" the job is right now, but a lot of things can change in a year.

I didn't realize ND/Swarbrick actually started a search committee for a BK replacement this year.
 

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This year, when ND did some "fact finding" with a search committee starting in case they had to replace Kelly the best candidates that were interested were Rhule and Narduzzi. That basically says it all about how "attractive" the job is right now, but a lot of things can change in a year.

Oh... Great... I was under the impression the spot had become more desirable under Kelly.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So what do analysts do, exactly? <a href="https://twitter.com/ralphDrussoAP">@ralphdrussoAP</a> <a href="https://t.co/LgYLnxcq3g">https://t.co/LgYLnxcq3g</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NationalChampionship?src=hash">#NationalChampionship</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CFBPlayoff?src=hash">#CFBPlayoff</a></p>— AP Top 25 (@AP_Top25) <a href="https://twitter.com/AP_Top25/status/817859550414041088">January 7, 2017</a></blockquote>
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TAMPA, Fla. (AP) — They are the coaches behind the coaches, pouring over hours of video and logging plays. They spot trends and make suggestions. Their work produces the building blocks of a game plan.

They have duties similar to graduate assistants, but without having to juggle all that school work. They have titles such as quality control coach, administrative assistant and analyst. Analyst was Steve Sarkisian's job at Alabama until a week before the biggest game of the season when he was promoted to offensive coordinator .

The former Southern California coach will be calling plays for the Crimson Tide, replacing Lane Kiffin when No. 1 Alabama (14-0) faces Clemson (13-1) on Monday in the College Football Playoff national championship game.

"We'd still watch a lot of tape, still try to game plan, then offer up as much advice as I could to the game plan, then to the coaches," Sarkisian said Saturday. "Then it was more sit back and analyze how we were performing."

The NCAA allows just nine coaches to directly instruct players on the field during practice and games. Four graduate assistant coaches are also permitted. Those spots are generally held by aspiring coaches and they must be working on a graduate degree. They are allowed to work with players at practice and be on the field during games, but the bulk of their work is in the film room.

At powerhouse schools such as Alabama and Clemson support staffs have grown in recent years to include coaches that don't carry whistles. Sarkisian, who was fired by USC during the 2015 season, was hired by Alabama coach Nick Saban as an analyst earlier this year.

Former New Mexico coach Mike Locksley, who was most recently the offensive coordinator at Maryland, is also an offensive analyst for Alabama. As is Charlie Weis Jr., the son of the former Notre Dame and Kansas coach, and former Crimson Tide offensive lineman William Vlachos. Dean Altobelli, a former Michigan attorney who played for Saban at Michigan State, has been a defensive analyst at Alabama since 2010.

They generally make about $45,000 per year, at least at the start. Clemson's senior analysts make up to $90,000.

"You want to talk about the lifeblood of the operational football part, the X and Os part?" Alabama offensive line coach Mario Cristobal said. "They are essential and critical."

Alabama has nine analysts on staff. Clemson coach Dabo Swinney has five analysts, including senior offensive analyst Mickey Conn and defensive analyst Kyle Richardson.

Derrick Ansley was a graduate assistant for Saban in 2010 and '11 and rejoined the staff this season as defensive backs coach. He said many of the duties of a graduate assistant are similar to what analysts do. The analysts just have more time to do them.

"When I was a GA I had to break down the entire offensive opponent," Ansley said. "The details that we put into it is kind of what separates us a little bit."

What does an opponent run on third-and-4 or more? Against a four-man front? Against a three-man front? How about on third-and-3 or less? In the red zone? In their own end? All that type of information is gathered and given to position coaches, coordinators and the head coach.

"He's watching it all, but you come in and give him a little something he may have missed because you're studying that," Ansley said.

Alabama wide receiver Gehrig Dieter is a graduate transfer from Bowling Green. After spending two seasons at the Mid-American Conference school and one at SMU before that, Dieter could see the benefit of all the additional input.

"There's so many people on our staff any time you have a question it kind of gets answered," Dieter said. "Not that it doesn't at Bowling Green, but you just have so many eyes on you at all times so you kind of get the most accurate answers possible."

The other benefit comes when it is time to hit the recruiting trail. Only the nine full-time assistants can recruit.

"We get done playing Florida in the SEC championship game, immediately we're on the road recruiting," Alabama defensive coordinator Jeremy Pruitt said. "Well, somebody's got to be breaking down Washington, Ohio State, Clemson. Those guys do a job from a breakdown standpoint so when you walk in they can hand it to it you and say, 'Hey, this is kind of what these guys do.'"

Clemson co-offensive coordinator Tony Elliott said the Tigers' analysts are as involved in the game plans as any staffer and their input during games can be vital.

"The great thing about it is they're just an extension of your eyes," Elliott said. "They understand what the game plan is. They understand what the adjustments are. They understand the things that cause us problems."

Ultimately, all these extra staffers give programs such as Alabama and Clemson more people to do more tasks more efficiently.

"Manpower," Ansley said.

And brainpower.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dabo Swinney explains why he has two defensive line coaches: <a href="https://t.co/phfV2bxxvD">https://t.co/phfV2bxxvD</a></p>— CoachingSearch.com (@coachingsearch) <a href="https://twitter.com/coachingsearch/status/817870828008259584">January 7, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Clemson had to replace most of its front seven after last season, but the Tigers are back in the national title game with a strong front again. Dabo Swinney credits part of that to having two defensive line coaches.

Dan Brooks coaches the defensive tackles, and Marion Hobby coaches the defensive ends. Clemson was No. 3 nationally in tackles for loss this year. Brooks was named the 2016 AFCA assistant coach of the year, and defensive coordinator Brent Venables won the Broyles award.

“That's one of the reasons I have two D-line coaches, because I've always put such a great emphasis on that position,” Swinney said Saturday. “I think it's too much for one guy, the details, the techniques, the amount of information that you have to prepare for.

“It's not like everybody is running up and lining up in I-right and I-left anymore. There's so much teaching that has to go on at D-end and D-tackle, and Dan and Marion have just done an unbelievable job, and their track record speaks for itself.”

Different staffs spread out different duties, but the front is so important to Swinney that he puts two coaches there. Swinney pointed to Vic Beasley, now in the NFL, and all the other players Brooks and Hobby have produced. Since 2009, 12 Clemson defensive linemen have been drafted.

“Vic never played a snap of D-line ever until his junior year. He was a running back, and this kid just made 1st-team All Pro and led the led the NFL in sacks,” Swinney said. “And that's a credit to the development he got with Marion while he was at Clemson. He was the 8th pick in the draft. Kevin Dodd was a prep school guy that nobody recruited, was a 2nd-rounder last year.

“We've got lots of guys like that, Shaq Lawson, Marion, and then you look at Dan Brooks and you've got guys like Grady Jarrett, who we beat Buffalo to recruit, who's starting and having a heck of a year for the Falcons, starting D-tackle, second-year player. You look all over the league and you look at the guys that have been produced. You look what he's done with Dexter Lawrence this year, true freshman, coaching those guys up.

“They're just great people. We have a great chemistry with our defensive staff, but it all starts up front. There's no doubt about it. The teaching, the attention to details, the toughness that we've developed at that position has given us a chance to be a winner.”

They’ll face an Alabama offense that is No. 8 in rushing, but No. 108 in TFLS allowed, at 7.2 per game. The Tide and Tigers kick off from Tampa at 8 p.m. ET on Monday.
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I think Charlie Weis had two DL coaches on his staff. Jappy Oliver and some other guy that I'm blanking on. I'll have to hit the Google machine.
 

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IS his #RTB message going with him to MSP?

Western owns the rights to it and said in their press conference that they were willing to sit down with Fleck and talk about him buying the rights..

Who knows if Fleck will do that or just start another silly mantra
 

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Western owns the rights to it and said in their press conference that they were willing to sit down with Fleck and talk about him buying the rights..

Who knows if Fleck will do that or just start another silly mantra

I actually love the slogan. I know it seems silly, but it's a rally cry and Fleck gets his teams to buy in. Any little edge you can get in this game helps imo.
 

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Western owns the rights to it and said in their press conference that they were willing to sit down with Fleck and talk about him buying the rights..

Who knows if Fleck will do that or just start another silly mantra

I actually love the slogan. I know it seems silly, but it's a rally cry and Fleck gets his teams to buy in. Any little edge you can get in this game helps imo.

RTB wasn't just a silly mantra to Fleck. It was deeply personal and became something for him personally when one of his young children passed away. He eventually developed that into the rest of his life, the team, and their lives.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cal?src=hash">#Cal</a> has fired head coach Sonny Dykes, a source has told FOX Sports. Story coming on <a href="https://twitter.com/FOXSports">@FoxSports</a>.</p>— Bruce Feldman (@BruceFeldmanCFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/818162212133081089">January 8, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Chip Kelly to Cal the next domino to fall maybe?
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cal?src=hash">#Cal</a> has fired head coach Sonny Dykes, a source has told FOX Sports. Story coming on <a href="https://twitter.com/FOXSports">@FoxSports</a>.</p>— Bruce Feldman (@BruceFeldmanCFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/818162212133081089">January 8, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Chip Kelly to Cal the next domino to fall maybe?

Can't imagine them firing Dykes this late unless they have a for sure plan...
 
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