Silly Season 2015/2016 (Coaching Changes)

[dkuhn12]

The Irish may have just lost their next coach with the Minn job coming open.

I think we have saw that movie once already....


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[Luckylucci]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Minnesota underclassman: “Doesn’t matter who coach is we don’t want to play for administration. Countless people will transfer if possible”</p>— Brett McMurphy (@McMurphyESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/McMurphyESPN/status/816425169531047936">January 3, 2017</a></blockquote>
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This whole situation is wild. I'm puzzled what the coach did wrong. He's literally getting fired for a situation he couldn't possibly control and where no charges were filed. I'm not saying that there wasn't rape or code of conduct violations, I just don't understand how the coach is culpable.

I believe they fired the coach because he publicly agreed with the players protest. That immediately put him in a bad position with the President. Once he did that, it seemed like a forgone conclusion he was out.

With that said, yes, this is a very wild situation. Apparently when all the facts were put out to the team on what actually happened. That's when they decided to play the game. Seemingly acknowledging that something F'd did take place. Haven't got into those details myself, however.

 

[IrishLax]

I believe they fired the coach because he publicly agreed with the players protest. That immediately put him in a bad position with the President. Once he did that, it seemed like a forgone conclusion he was out.

With that said, yes, this is a very wild situation. Apparently when all the facts were put out to the team on what actually happened. That's when they decided to play the game. Seemingly acknowledging that something F'd did take place. Haven't got into those details myself, however.

Yeah, I read the redacted report. Absolutely seems like plausible evidence of code of conduct violation, though I also understand why there was no chance of a rape conviction.

The whole situation would've resolved itself if the administration wasn't douchebags from the beginning hiding behind privacy laws and had given the players that information when they asked. The President basically told them to fuck off and that's what spurred the protest.

 

[T Town Tommy]

Yeah, cuz it would be so difficult to convince a coach to leave such a great gig like Minnesota...

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Gotta think that Notre Dame, while they have the money, isn't going to want to pay BKs buyout and then pay Minn a buyout to take a chance on a coach that hadn't coached a P5 school. That's my thought process here.

 

[PerthDomer]

Hopefully they hire Penn States OC, he tears it up for two years, BK leaves for another job and we poach him.

 

[irishff1014]

The Irish may have just lost their next coach with the Minn job coming open.

Chip Kelly 😜

 

[dublinirish]

Chip Kelly 😜

Chip could do some things with Minnesota but he's hardly the squeaky clean type you'd want going into a situation like that

 

[Irish#1]

Chip may need a year or two away from a HC position before he could land another one. Getting fired from your two previous stints isn't the best bullet point on your resume. I think he knows that and is why he said he wouldn't have a problem being an assistant coach whether it be a coordinator, AHC, etc.

 

[ScooterIrish]

Hopefully good ol' Trace is working the phone for Kelly to jump to Minn. One can dream right?

 

[IrishLion]

Hopefully good ol' Trace is working the phone for Kelly to jump to Minn. One can dream right?

It would be hilarious to see Kelly go to Minnesota, build a consistent B1G West winner, and spoil things for pOSU/scUM/Sparty every year after they've all beat each other up in the East.

 

[NDRock]

It would be hilarious to see Kelly go to Minnesota, build a consistent B1G West winner, and spoil things for pOSU/scUM/Sparty every year after they've all beat each other up in the East.

Building a consistent winner is something he's never really done at the D-1 level.

 

[IrishLion]

Building a consistent winner is something he's never really done at the D-1 level.

He built a consistent winner at UC for three years while competing with WVU, Rutgers (in their prime), and Louisville. That's a step down from the B1G, but the general situation would be comparable to Minnesota competing with Wiscy, Nebraska and Iowa each year.

He could win the B1G West at 9-3 most seasons, and it would be easier to get to 9-3 at Minnesota than it is at ND.

 

[ScooterIrish]

He built a consistent winner at UC for three years while competing with WVU, Rutgers (in their prime), and Louisville. That's a step down from the B1G, but the general situation would be comparable to Minnesota competing with Wiscy, Nebraska and Iowa each year.

He could win the B1G West at 9-3 most seasons, and it would be easier to get to 9-3 at Minnesota than it is at ND.

Minn has won 9+ games twice since 2000, with 3 8-win seasons in that time period. It is not easier to win at Minn than it is at ND.

 

[IrishLion]

Minn has won 9+ games twice since 2000, with 3 8-win seasons in that time period. It is not easier to win at Minn than it is at ND.

I'm saying that it would be easier for Brian Kelly to turn Minnesota into a winner in a weak conference than what he's done at ND.

Playing in the Big West, if he gets his system in place and operating somewhat effeciently, he'd have 5 wins chalked up automatically each year. Getting the other 4 wins would depend on non-conference and cross-divisional opponents.

 

[IrishLion]

And this is all a hypothetical.

I just thought it would be a funny situation to see Brian Kelly, a man despised by college football fans everywhere, go to Minnesota of all places and ruin things for Urban, Harbaugh and Dantonio (and Franklin I guess).

 

[beryirish]

Possible landing spots for Chip Kelly if he got a college job this offseason

With additional NFL jobs seemingly opening by the second, the odds are perhaps increasing that a professional team could fill their vacancy with a college coach.

If that happens, one of those programs might then be in a position to bring back Chip Kelly to the level on which he excelled.

The San Francisco 49ers fired Kelly on Sunday evening. He went 2-14 in his first and only season with the Niners. He was previously 26-21 in three seasons with the Philadelphia Eagles, where he was fired a year ago.

By contrast, Kelly went 46-7 in four seasons as Oregon’s head coach, taking the Ducks to one national title game and paving the way for another appearance.

The 53-year-old Kelly has publicly said that he does not have great interest in returning to college football, but a source told us that he has indicated otherwise in the past year to friends.

So which program makes the most sense for Kelly if one is suddenly in need of a coach?

1. UCLA

Industry sources have told us that Jim Mora is the likeliest of the college coaches to make a jump to the pro level. In Mora’s case, it would be a return. Mora went 31-33 in four seasons in the NFL, where he last coached Seattle in 2009. He’s 41-24 at UCLA, where injuries — including one to star QB Josh Rosen — primarily led to a 4-8 2016 season.

If it opened, coaches and agents agree that UCLA feels like the absolute best fit for Kelly’s return. It’s the league he knows best and a city and state in which he has recruited for years. Kelly would immediately cast a bigger spotlight than the more understated Clay Helton at USC — and it’s not often that UCLA can steal away football attention from its crosstown rival.

There’s an alternate route for Kelly to Westwood, as well: Mora enters 2017 on the hot seat. Some sources, however, wonder if the school, known for being fiscally tight, would pay both Mora’s buyout and whatever Kelly commanded. This could be the unique candidate to make an exception.

2. NOTRE DAME

As with Mora, some wonder what the NFL market is for a college coach coming off a 4-8 season. It’s a crossroads point for Brian Kelly at Notre Dame, regardless: Kelly has replaced both coordinators in this offseason, and support is waning after a tumultuous calendar year.

But let's say an NFL team warmed to him. The biggest question, some sources pointed out, is whether Chip Kelly would be interested in having a strict academic standard to which you’re forced to follow. Perhaps the “Notre Dame brand” is enough to offset those concerns. It still remains a highly visible and coveted job, and it stands to reason that Notre Dame’s administration would strongly consider a Kelly swap. As with Mora and his hefty buyout, not having to eventually make a decision regarding Brian Kelly would be a relief for the school.

3. TEXAS A&M

Kevin Sumlin continues to bump into an eight-win ceiling at A&M, which has pushed him toward the hot seat. But he has reportedly been sought after by multiple NFL franchises in past years.

It could provide a nice parachute for both sides in College Station — and it would open the door for Kelly to take over a capable program with fantastic resources and a fertile recruiting base.

How would he fare in Texas and in the SEC? And would he want to? Those are all fair questions.

“He doesn’t strike me as an SEC guy, or someone who wants to deal with the things you deal with there,” one industry source told us, adding that Kelly bristled at booster politics at Oregon. “Would he really want to step into that (at Texas A&M or an SEC school)?”

4. STANFORD

Perennially, David Shaw is a hotly coveted by NFL front offices. But it becomes clearer by the year that Shaw is quite comfortable at Stanford.

If a particular job did happen to strike Shaw’s fancy, Stanford would be a quirky fit for Kelly. It’s in the same division in which Kelly enjoyed success but it’s at the competitor that intermittently tripped up the Ducks using an entirely different style and scheme.

As with the Notre Dame job, perhaps Kelly would not be overly interested in navigating a fickle academic standard.

5. PENN STATE

Coaches and agents are skeptical James Franklin would really be in play for a job such as Buffalo, but his name has surfaced in a few spots.

This also feels like a ragged fit for Kelly. He is from the Northeast, sure, but would you really want to jump in a division with Urban Meyer and Jim Harbaugh clicking on the recruiting trail and on the field? That said, Franklin and PSU did win the conference in 2016.

 

[Meatloaf]

Having seen Chip up close for 3 years in Philly, I think he would be a terrible fit personality wise at ND. Reclusive, doesn't like crootin and doesn't handle the media well.Not exactly a great recipe for success.

 

[irishff1014]

No chip kelly

 

[GBdomer]

Having seen Chip up close for 3 years in Philly, I think he would be a terrible fit personality wise at ND. Reclusive, doesn't like crootin and doesn't handle the media well.Not exactly a great recipe for success.

Exactly, on the field I'm sure it would be fun but off the field would be a disaster

 

[Irish#1]

And this is all a hypothetical.

I just thought it would be a funny situation to see Brian Kelly, a man despised by college football fans everywhere, go to Minnesota of all places and ruin things for Urban, Harbaugh and Dantonio (and Franklin I guess).

I thought we were talking about Chip, not Brian.

 

[IrishLion]

I thought we were talking about Chip, not Brian.

Scooter mentioned a hope that "Trace" would be on the phone trying to get Kelly to Minnesota, meaning *Brian* Kelly in referencing his agent, Trace Armstrong.

 

[BoredIrish]

Jed York needs to do a solid for his alma mater and take Kelly off of ND's hands.

Having said that, if Jed follows his alma mater at all, he probably wants no part of BK.

 

[ND NYC]

any chatter on the interwebs of david shaw to 49ers?

 

[GrangerIrish24]

any chatter on the interwebs of david shaw to 49ers?

just a lot of prayers

 

[NDbrbkny]

I don't think Shaw would leave since Stanford is his school and his family name is highly thought of there

 

[dublinirish]

The Scoop - Thursday January 5, 2017 - FootballScoop

Cincinnati: Per source, former Virginia defensive coordinator Jon Tenuta is joining Luke Fickell’s staff at Cincinnati. Tenuta has served as the defensive coordinator at Marshall, Kansas State, SMU, Ohio State, UNC, Georgia Tech, Notre Dame, and NC State.

 

[IrishLion]

Fickell is putting together a realllllly nice staff, and he's already recruiting better than Tubberville ever did.

If Denbrock gets the offense back on track, it'll be Cincy/USF every year battling for a spot in the AAC 'chip (depending on what Applewhite does with Houston).

 

[BobbyMac]

Fickell is putting together a realllllly nice staff, and he's already recruiting better than Tubberville ever did.

If Denbrock gets the offense back on track, it'll be Cincy/USF every year battling for a spot in the AAC 'chip (depending on what Applewhite does with Houston).

Houston's on the other side with Navy.

UC & USF have to deal with Temple and UCF too. What will always hurt in the AAC is coaching turnover. The new regime in Cincy won't be there long. Of those four, I'd say Strong is the only guy that might stick around. Charlie's getting up to shuffleboard age and he's landed in the right place for that. I can't even leave out the other two, ECU and UConn. Scottie Montgomery's a first time HC at ECU, a school that has a history of getting it going and UConn rehired Edsal who led them through their glory years in the Big East.

Beat all those guys and then give up 400 yds on the ground to Navy in the Championship game. Good luck.

 

[IrishLion]

Houston's on the other side with Navy.

UC & USF have to deal with Temple and UCF too. What will always hurt in the AAC is coaching turnover. The new regime in Cincy won't be there long. Of those four, I'd say Strong is the only guy that might stick around. Charlie's getting up to shuffleboard age and he's landed in the right place for that. I can't even leave out the other two, ECU and UConn. Scottie Montgomery's a first time HC at ECU, a school that has a history of getting it going and UConn rehired Edsal who led them through their glory years in the Big East.

Beat all those guys and then give up 400 yds on the ground to Navy in the Championship game. Good luck.

Yeah, my original post was that UC/USF could win it every year, but I edited to say they could compete for a spot every year. Didn't amend my thoughts on Houston to match.

I'm not worried about UConn for a year or two, same with ECU. UCF is a different animal, but I've got faith that Strong will put a damper on what they're building, or else that Frost is on his way out after next year anyway.

The AAC conference schedule for '17 isn't out yet, but I anxiously await the day where they get Navy as a crossover during the season, that way I can sit in the stands and tell everybody, "see, I told you this was going to be awful."

 

[SoIll]

Fleck has formally been offered the Minnesota job, ball is in his court

source: Me