Sept 23 | Michigan State

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If Notre Dame can't be successful in a flashy vertical offense, Kelly said, that's not what they'll run going forward. "We can't appease people in terms of what looks good as much as what we're going to be good at," Kelly said. "If running the football is what is going to be the common denominator for wins, then that's what we're doing."
Who the hell has been clamoring for a flashy, vertical offense? Kelly appears to be saying "people want us to run a flashy, vertical offense but RTDB is what wins games so they're just going to have to put up with it."

No Kelly. Everyone wants you to RTDB because that's what wins games. Three yards and a cloud of dust.
 

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-- If Notre Dame can't be successful in a flashy vertical offense, Kelly said, that's not what they'll run going forward. "We can't appease people in terms of what looks good as much as what we're going to be good at," Kelly said. "If running the football is what is going to be the common denominator for wins, then that's what we're doing."
He's been reading the forums.

Who the hell has been clamoring for a flashy, vertical offense? Kelly appears to be saying "people want us to run a flashy, vertical offense but RTDB is what wins games so they're just going to have to put up with it."

No Kelly. Everyone wants you to RTDB because that's what wins games. Three yards and a cloud of dust.

When Kelly got hired he said he realized that he had to do things differently at Notre Dame. At his previous stops he was hired to put butts in the seats, so he went with flashy offenses. At ND he said he knew he needed a stout defense and something along the lines of a physical run game or something maybe. So, at what point did he go derp and forget that? It's like this season the light came back on.
 

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When Kelly got hired he said he realized that he had to do things differently at Notre Dame. At his previous stops he was hired to put butts in the seats, so he went with flashy offenses. At ND he said he knew he needed a stout defense and something along the lines of a physical run game or something maybe. So, at what point did he go derp and forget that? It's like this season the light came back on.

Probably some time shortly after he realized our defense was hot garbage and he had no choice but to score 35+/gm
 
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When Kelly got hired he said he realized that he had to do things differently at Notre Dame. At his previous stops he was hired to put butts in the seats, so he went with flashy offenses. At ND he said he knew he needed a stout defense and something along the lines of a physical run game or something maybe. So, at what point did he go derp and forget that? It's like this season the light came back on.

2010: 1646 | 127 ypg | 4.0ypc (Cierre Wood/Armando Allen)
2011: 2085 | 160 ypg | 4.8 ypc (Cierre Wood/Jonas Gray)
2012: 2462 | 189 ypg | 4.9 ypc (Theo Riddick/Cierre Wood)
2013: 1963 | 151 ypg | 4.5 ypc (RB by committee)
2014: 2073 | 159 ypg | 4.3 ypc (Tarean Folston)
2015: 2699 | 208 ypg | 5.4 ypc (Prosise/Adams)
2016: 1960 | 163 ypg | 4.5 ypc (Josh Adams)

I think that's actually a pretty consistent record IMO. When the team is a standard 8-9 win team they rush for 150-160, when they're a playoff level team it's 190-200 ypg. Kelly's shortcomings in the running game have been situational IMO. Obviously the RB talent has a lot to do with it. 2013 was low point IMO, and Folston's career clearly impacted by injury.

2017 is on pace for, sit down when you read this, 4,299 yards and 56 rushing touchdowns. Keep your fingers crossed.
 
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2010: 1646 | 4.0ypc (Cierre Wood/Armando Allen)
2011: 2085 | 4.8 ypc (Cierre Wood/Jonas Gray)
2012: 2462 | 4.9 ypc (Theo Riddick/Cierre Wood)
2013: 1963 | 4.5 ypc (RB by committee)
2014: 2073 | 4.3 ypc (Tarean Folston)
2015: 2699 | 5.4 ypc (Prosise/Adams)
2016: 1960 | 4.5 ypc (Josh Adams)

I think that's actually a pretty consistent record. Kelly's shortcomings in the running game have been situational IMO.

2017 is on pace for, sit down when you read this, 4,299 yards and 56 rushing touchdowns. Keep your fingers crossed.

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I went to the last night game we had at MSU and their crowd gets pretty rowdy. Also the few ND fans that go get stuck in a upper level corner. Not sure what impact their struggles last year has on attendance and stuff though.
 
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I went to the last night game we had at MSU and their crowd gets pretty rowdy. Also the few ND fans that go get stuck in a upper level corner. Not sure what impact their struggles last year has on attendance and stuff though.

They're 2-0 and it's ND so I'm guessing they'll be packed.
 

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Not sure if it's been posted, but Gus Johnson is calling the game....pretty pumped

Gus Johnson = Mike Tirico + amphetamines.

Even Mexican Soccer announcers think he's sensationalistic.
 

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I went to the last night game we had at MSU and their crowd gets pretty rowdy. Also the few ND fans that go get stuck in a upper level corner. Not sure what impact their struggles last year has on attendance and stuff though.

MSU gets crazy for night games basically no matter what. And with ND coming to town, probably their 2nd most hated team in the country, it's going to be loud. With the weather in the 80s, let's hope most of them are passed out by the time kickoff comes around.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Greer Martini says MSU O-line better than last year.<br>Media followup: “How exactly?”<br>Martini: “I don’t know, that’s what the coaches told us"</p>— Irish Illustrated (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/910538659820134401">September 20, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Greer Martini says MSU O-line better than last year.<br>Media followup: “How exactly?”<br>Martini: “I don’t know, that’s what the coaches told us"</p>— Irish Illustrated (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/910538659820134401">September 20, 2017</a></blockquote>
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lmao
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Greer Martini says MSU O-line better than last year.<br>Media followup: “How exactly?”<br>Martini: “I don’t know, that’s what the coaches told us"</p>— Irish Illustrated (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/910538659820134401">September 20, 2017</a></blockquote>
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On paper that seems silly because MSU replaced 4 players on the OL (Unless, you know, the previous Seniors weren't good to begin with), but my guess is the coaches were trying to hype up the OL to mentally prepare our front seven to attack them hard. If you ask me, it sounds like we're going to be aggressive and go after young QB Lewerke.
 

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This will be a good game to watch. Notre Dame has more talent but MSU has a better coach. The difference between Dantonio and Kelly is, Dantonio appears to have gone back to the basics after MSU's horrible season and Kelly has stated multiple times he has forgotten about last year.
 

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This will be a good game to watch. Notre Dame has more talent but MSU has a better coach. The difference between Dantonio and Kelly is, Dantonio appears to have gone back to the basics after MSU's horrible season and Kelly has stated multiple times he has forgotten about last year.

I don't know if Dantonio is a better coach. Dantonio has riled up Urban Meyer a number of times, but Dantonio has struggled with BK in the past. He got the first win on the flukey, penalty filled Little Giants play, then proceeded to lose the next 3 games I think before last year's debacle of a team dropped one to Sparty. I think BK will have his number again this year.
 
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I don't know if Dantonio is a better coach. Dantonio has riled up Urban Meyer a number of times, but Dantonio has struggled with BK in the past. He got the first win on the flukey, penalty filled Little Giants play, then proceeded to lose the next 3 games I think before last year's debacle of a team dropped one to Sparty. I think BK will have his number again this year.

I think if you polled the general public, 98% would say Dantonio is the better coach. He's consistently won more with less than BK has. And he has a tendency to actually show up in big games.
 

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I think if you polled the general public, 98% would say Dantonio is the better coach. He's consistently won more with less than BK has. And he has a tendency to actually show up in big games.

Closer to 50/50

Not to mention all the institutional issues Sparty always has.
 

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Closer to 50/50

Not to mention all the institutional issues Sparty always has.

Yeah and we never have institutional problems. Never academic,arrest or playing ineligible players. Thank goodness we aren't them.
 

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Yeah and we never have institutional problems. Never academic,arrest or playing ineligible players. Thank goodness we aren't them.


Every university has some level of that...however lets not pretend its been equal levels of issues.
 

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