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So what can we expect with the tailgating scene? From what I've found, it looks to be a little more strict than what I'm used to. We'll have an RV, and plan to park it in the lot about a mile north of the stadium. But we can't get there until 8am. Must leave 3 hours after the game ends. Not a big deal outside of I feel like we'll be fighting bad traffic on both ends.

We can't decide if we should hunker down in the RV lot, or try to wander around campus. Thoughts?
 

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So what can we expect with the tailgating scene? From what I've found, it looks to be a little more strict than what I'm used to. We'll have an RV, and plan to park it in the lot about a mile north of the stadium. But we can't get there until 8am. Must leave 3 hours after the game ends. Not a big deal outside of I feel like we'll be fighting bad traffic on both ends.

We can't decide if we should hunker down in the RV lot, or try to wander around campus. Thoughts?

Read through this thread: http://www.irishenvy.com/forums/not...gameday-notre-dame-visitors-first-timers.html
 

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So what can we expect with the tailgating scene? From what I've found, it looks to be a little more strict than what I'm used to. We'll have an RV, and plan to park it in the lot about a mile north of the stadium. But we can't get there until 8am. Must leave 3 hours after the game ends. Not a big deal outside of I feel like we'll be fighting bad traffic on both ends.

We can't decide if we should hunker down in the RV lot, or try to wander around campus. Thoughts?

My girlfriend is a UofM fan (**** Michigan), and she said she honestly love NDs campus. Its beautiful. Obviously I'm bias, but many non ND fans I know agree that when you go to ND for a game, you must spend time taking in the campus.
 
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So what can we expect with the tailgating scene? From what I've found, it looks to be a little more strict than what I'm used to. We'll have an RV, and plan to park it in the lot about a mile north of the stadium. But we can't get there until 8am. Must leave 3 hours after the game ends. Not a big deal outside of I feel like we'll be fighting bad traffic on both ends.

We can't decide if we should hunker down in the RV lot, or try to wander around campus. Thoughts?

And if you have any questions, almost all ND fans and any of the paid personnel will take the time to point many of the outstanding features of the campus. Some of the outstanding features are not domes or buildings. Father Corby's desk, the Regimental Pennant of the Irish Brigade, tattered torn and stained with blood, are also worth the excursion. Oh yeah, and you haven't lived until you have found Kermit the Frog, the fishhook, and the hula girl, painted into the mural in the Administration Building. The Basilica, and the Grotto are worth a visit, too!
 

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don't even know what to think about this game. they threw for a ton of yards last year but didnt convert much. i dont see us holding them to 50 yards rushing again either.

however the chips may fall i will be there yelling loud.

also, it doesnt seem like this game is going to be largely attended as far as recruiting. anyone know of who's planning on visiting?
 
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Their bye week concerns me. They could come in locked and loaded with the extra week of preparation. I'm not ready to make a prediction but wanted to make that point.

I also don't think their first three weeks give us much indication of what kind of team they really are. They haven't played anyone with our talent. Does that overwhelm them?

A fast start is absolutely crucial to allow doubt to creep into them and/or give our boys confidence like last year in Norman. No reason we should be opening every game with at least one 3-and-out on offense. That may be the most frustrating thing for me the past three games.
 

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Their bye week concerns me. They could come in locked and loaded with the extra week of preparation. I'm not ready to make a prediction but wanted to make that point.

I also don't think their first three weeks give us much indication of what kind of team they really are. They haven't played anyone with our talent. Does that overwhelm them?

A fast start is absolutely crucial to allow doubt to creep into them and/or give our boys confidence like last year in Norman. No reason we should be opening every game with at least one 3-and-out on offense. That may be the most frustrating thing for me the past three games.

Key for the defense is to tackle next week. Can not let that Qb bulldoze them all day.


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Key for the defense is to tackle next week. Can not let that Qb bulldoze them all day.


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Can't really argue with that. Tackling is always a key. But I don't think I'm real concerned with the Belldozer running the ball outside of short yardage situations. He's a bruiser who lacks the speed of more traditional "mobile" QBs.
 

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Their bye week concerns me. They could come in locked and loaded with the extra week of preparation. I'm not ready to make a prediction but wanted to make that point.

That definitely makes me nervous. Especially with how predictable we've been been lately, that extra preparation could really hurt us.

I also don't think their first three weeks give us much indication of what kind of team they really are. They haven't played anyone with our talent. Does that overwhelm them?

They didn't impress against Louisiana-Monroe, struggled against a very average WVU team, and finally got on track against Tulsa (sort of like State's first three games). Then again, we didn't impress against Temple, lost to an over-rated UM team, struggled against a bad Purdue team, and then looked a little better against an incomplete MSU team. Michigan and MSU are far better than any of the teams OU has faced, so we may have some advantage there, but who can say?

The advanced stats think OU has an average attack-- decent at rushing, but poor through the air. But it also think they're good against the run and elite against the pass. With all the starters they lost on that side of the ball, I can't see how that's possibly accurate; but if it is, we're probably in trouble.

Assuming those stats are correct, I think we commit to stopping the run and containing Bell (which, for the reasons you stated above, shouldn't be a real problem outside of the redzone and short yardage situations), thereby forcing him to beat us with his arm. In theory, that plays right into our strengths, though I've seen enough cracks in our previously impervious run defense to be worried.
 
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I think the verdict is still out on OU. They struggled when starting the redshirt freshman(?) QB Knight and looked better when Bell started last week. The West Virginia team they beat got walloped by Maryland today, MARYLAND, 37-0! OU got off to slow starts except the Tulsa game, when Bell started, and the quality of competition they've faced so far to evaluate the D isn't enough to see if they're good or great.

I think preseason, they're strength was the secondary and the d-line was the question mark. This week would be a great time for us to click running the ball. I can't wait to see the stadium and university next week, I really hope we can get a W to top off my first actual vacation of adulthood LOL!
 

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Now idea what to expect from this game. As has been mentioned above, Oklahoma has played no one of note, and that should help us out significantly early on in the game.

They beat UL-Monroe 35-0. UL-Monroe just lost 70-7 to Baylor yesterday.

They beat WVU 16-7. WVU is brutal and lost 37-0 to Maryland yesterday.

They beat Tulsa 51-20. Tulsa isn't the sneaky-good team of past years however. They lost to Bowling Green by 27 in week 1.

I posted this is another thread, I have 0 idea what will happen and don't even want to predict a score. We could win by 14 or lose by 30.
 

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That definitely makes me nervous. Especially with how predictable we've been been lately, that extra preparation could really hurt us.



They didn't impress against Louisiana-Monroe, struggled against a very average WVU team, and finally got on track against Tulsa (sort of like State's first three games). Then again, we didn't impress against Temple, lost to an over-rated UM team, struggled against a bad Purdue team, and then looked a little better against an incomplete MSU team. Michigan and MSU are far better than any of the teams OU has faced, so we may have some advantage there, but who can say?

The advanced stats think OU has an average attack-- decent at rushing, but poor through the air. But it also think they're good against the run and elite against the pass. With all the starters they lost on that side of the ball, I can't see how that's possibly accurate; but if it is, we're probably in trouble.

Assuming those stats are correct, I think we commit to stopping the run and containing Bell (which, for the reasons you stated above, shouldn't be a real problem outside of the redzone and short yardage situations), thereby forcing him to beat us with his arm. In theory, that plays right into our strengths, though I've seen enough cracks in our previously impervious run defense to be worried.

Someone else sees it the way i do. instead of making excuses.
 
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don't even know what to think about this game. they threw for a ton of yards last year but didnt convert much. i dont see us holding them to 50 yards rushing again either.

however the chips may fall i will be there yelling loud.

also, it doesnt seem like this game is going to be largely attended as far as recruiting. anyone know of who's planning on visiting?

So, you gonna buy me a beer? And some meatloaf?
 

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Both teams are capable of winning by 30, in my opinion. Notre Dame does have the blessing/curse of being everyone's "game of the season". That does have to take a toll and Notre Dame shouldn't have struggled against Purdue, but a night game at a rival, it happens. However, I think that prepares them for the bigger stage against a prominent program like Oklahoma too.

OU's defense has been solid to great through three games. However Tulsa had some scores they shouldn't have and all the competition hasn't been all that great. However, I feel they've been pretty bland. It's Mike Stoops' 2nd year back and I don't know if there's been a philosophical change - just fine tuning. I hope they can keep Notre Dame to 20 or less.

OU's offense, in my opinion, is the key to the game. Offense looked okay against ULM (34 points) but horrible against WVU (16 points). Knight was injured towards the end of WVU and it let Bell have a week of prep for the Tulsa game. Tulsa does not have a player that could earn a scholly at Notre Dame, don't get me wrong... but he broke a few school records for 1st start ever in pass TDs, and yards and overall efficiency. With two weeks to prepare for this game (and no Manti Teo), I'm cautiously optimistic we can score 27 or more.

Stoops, although maybe not Big Game Bob, anymore is not lost on the importance of this game to the Oklahoma fans. You guys are on the bookends of our 47 game win streak, we're 1-9 against you which for a pretty good all-time program is just ridiculous. I think he has some tricks up his sleeve. I think it's as important as Texas is this year. In similar games in the past he's had Adrian Peterson line up on kickoff returns, fake punts with 2nd string fullbacks throwing the ball, etc. I'm not sure what to expect, but there will certainly be some wrinkles.

Curious - where you do guys rank this game in your season as far as importance? I'd probably say 2/3 behind Stanford, and maybe Michigan/USC depending on how their season go.
 

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Nice analysis, reps. While we have struggled against teams like Purdue this year, which haven't performed well in their other games, I think our team is missing some identity and leadership from last year. I think ND will struggle with Oklahoma if we play like we have through the first 4 games. I'm hoping ND's defense shows up like it did at times against MSU, but offensively I'm not sure what to expect vs. the OU defense. I think we could really use another week in preparation and to heal up guys like Sheldon Day, we'll see what happens next week.

As far as where this game ranks in importance for us...it's behind USC and UM since it's not a rivalry, but it's probably tied with Stanford or just below it as far as importance. Stanford would probably be just a bit higher only because it's a bit of a rivalry, it was a big OT game last year, and Stanford falls at the end of the schedule where a loss impacts teams most.
 
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Honestly it's hard to rate important games. USC is most important to me, but I know Oklahoma is a much tougher team.

Strength wise, I would put them number 2, just behind Stanford(we blew Michigan. They played the game of their lives, got all the breaks, and they are very overrated.)

Importance wise, I would say behind USC and Michigan, and tied with or just below Stanford as Ulukinatme said.
 

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Curious - where you do guys rank this game in your season as far as importance? I'd probably say 2/3 behind Stanford, and maybe Michigan/USC depending on how their season go.

It's definitely our most important game this week. We're not allowed to look any further past that. Sorry :/
 

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Oklahoma opening as a 3 pt favorite.

Considering that most handicappers give about 3 points to a team for being at home, that means the Irish are realistically about a one TD underdog. Our boys didn't have the statement game against MSU that we all wanted, so it would be very beneficial if they had it against OU.
 

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Would love to see the guys play with a chip on their shoulder this week.

BTW, I'm assuming we will be seeing our OU friend on here soon. What was his name? He was a respectable poster.
 

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We are very tough at home..

Early feelings are we settle in with some normalcy having 2 straight home games.

Bye week could be a disadvantage this early and not facing anybody.

Our defense has heard the alarm clock...we are waking up..

Tommy boy will grind and we will win by 8

ND 24
Ok 16
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>.<a href="https://twitter.com/LepLegion">@LepLegion</a>, with <a href="https://twitter.com/KellyCares">@KellyCares</a>, is sponsoring a stadium-wide "WEAR GREEN Game" against Oklahoma on Sat <a href="http://t.co/hhDjdIwBmB">http://t.co/hhDjdIwBmB</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23GoIrish&src=hash">#GoIrish</a></p>— Notre Dame Football (@NDFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball/statuses/382130511352987648">September 23, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Oklahoma remains the great unknown. Their schedule to now gives us little indication of how good they actually are. They do appear to have some targets to throw to and the one rb out of the backfield will have to be accounted for on pass plays. Just an early look at this game, it appears ND will need to get some pressure on Bell while trying to keep the receivers in front of the dbs. The Sooner running attack seems to have 3-4 good backs with no one back being that far ahead of the others. Defensively it's hard to say since the lack of quality opponents doesn't give us a good measuring stick. All in all, it seems the game will be a good ole fashion fight till the end.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>.<a href="https://twitter.com/LepLegion">@LepLegion</a>, with <a href="https://twitter.com/KellyCares">@KellyCares</a>, is sponsoring a stadium-wide "WEAR GREEN Game" against Oklahoma on Sat <a href="http://t.co/hhDjdIwBmB">http://t.co/hhDjdIwBmB</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23GoIrish&src=hash">#GoIrish</a></p>— Notre Dame Football (@NDFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball/statuses/382130511352987648">September 23, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Green Uniforms perhaps?
 
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