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On a somewhat relevant side issue: statistics on the Internet seem screwed up as to total games played, and total wins, concerning Michigan and Notre Dame in the all-time rankings as to winning percentage, but I tried to figure it out crudely.

I used two different sets of numbers [they were at least similar] and considered ties as one win & one loss for getting a wins number --- I THINK that we are 2 0r 3 win-difference short of passing up Michigan for highest winning percentage. If Michigan lost their bowl game and we win, then it's one or two difference for next year's schedule. Someone can probably firm up the mess with the real numbers and tell us for sure, but roughly that should be true.

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Old Man Mike said:
On a somewhat relevant side issue: statistics on the Internet seem screwed up as to total games played, and total wins, concerning Michigan and Notre Dame in the all-time rankings as to winning percentage, but I tried to figure it out crudely.

I used two different sets of numbers [they were at least similar] and considered ties as one win & one loss for getting a wins number --- I THINK that we are 2 0r 3 win-difference short of passing up Michigan for highest winning percentage. If Michigan lost their bowl game and we win, then it's one or two difference for next year's schedule. Someone can probably firm up the mess with the real numbers and tell us for sure, but roughly that should be true.

And things would be right again in God's Heaven.
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Michigan is about to have two rough seasons, ND can reclaim this soon.
 
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Regarding the all-time winning % record, Brian Fremeau maintains such a ranking. On his, at least, we aren't close to passing Michigan, though I don't know how he went about counting total games, ties, etc.
 
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You guys just aren't getting it. If it wasn't for those 6 turnovers they would have beat us into the turf. They were running up and down the field on us.
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I mean seriously. With Gardner, we would destroy them.
 
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Whiskey: it's hard for me to say for sure, but this guy's WAY off what the other lists register. What he has done is gone back in time and not included early years. His games and wins totals all are seriously less in number for the historical teams. One can say that what he is doing is legitimate in that he has some definition in his head of football games which are "modern enough" to count, but we can see how that might be a tough criterion to settle upon. "Only after the invention of the forward pass?" "Only after getting rid of leather helmets?" "Only after the invention of the spread offense?"

I looked at the other statistical sets which go back to the "first game", and these sets calculate "winning percentage" by adding up actual wins plus half your ties. One could argue that if you tied, you didn't win, but no one seems to take that line. In those stats, Michigan is: 1253 games and 921 wins for a percentage of 73.50%. Notre Dame is 1207 games and 886 wins for a percentage of 73.41%. If Michigan loses its bowl game, and we win ours, we are still second in percentage by a narrow margin of about 00.02%. So we still have work to do next season.
 
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I heard before this season that Michigan needed 5 losses more than us to hand back the "winningest" title... apparently that was wrong? They need 6?
 
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LAX, don't take my math as gospel. The internet is NOT doing a good job being consistent in all these numbers. The numbers DO seem to say that it would be approximately a dead heat going into next season with the bowls going Michigan Down, Notre Dame Up.
 
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Here's a stat for you:

Michigan is second in passing defense. They've played one team ranked in the Top 75 in passing offense and a ludicrous SIX teams ranked in the 100's in passing offense (not including Iowa at 99th).
 
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There are more great posts over there to read. Love the ones about how they are so close, minimal expectations 10-2 to 12-0.
ND is losing too much talent, our passing D will shut them down next year. Etc etc. The humour is endless.
 
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This rational post from a guy was marked as "flamebait":

Gholson is on a totally different level from where he was when he played us. He's going to be a great one for them
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NDinMich said:
Awful lotta of butt-hurt in the MGOBlog forum: Notre Dame is going to the championship game | mgoblog

Awful lot of incorrect information too (Diaco not a good DC, ND is not one of the top 5 teams in D1, UM plays a tougher schedule, etc)

Enjoy!
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Great read. Thanks!

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I've got this new philosophy on life. Just accept things will probably never go your way. Accept that you will never be truly happy. Accept that no matter how hard or how badly you work for something some other low life bastard will take it from you. Accept that no matter how much you want something to happen it will not go the way you desire. Accept that drink some beers and just run out the clock on the rest of your time on this big round ball...peace out ladies.
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Mr. Larson said:
Great read. Thanks!

My person favorite:

michfan6060

Joined: 01/22/2011
MGoPoints: 448 I've got this new philosophy on life. Just accept things will probably never go your way. Accept that you will never be truly happy. Accept that no matter how hard or how badly you work for something some other low life bastard will take it from you. Accept that no matter how much you want something to happen it will not go the way you desire. Accept that drink some beers and just run out the clock on the rest of your time on this big round ball...peace out ladies.
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No problem. That one is a beauty...when things don't go your way, don't do anything, just roll over and die.
 
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This sucks for them. Ryan was a big up and comer.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Jake Ryan is out indefinitely with a torn ACL suffered in Tuesday's practice. More: <a href="http://t.co/OWJwtKCX44" title="http://mgob.lu/XpSKKn">mgob.lu/XpSKKn</a></p>— Michigan Football (@umichfootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/umichfootball/status/314415363641208833">March 20, 2013</a></blockquote>
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WakeUpEchoes said:
This sucks for them. Ryan was a big up and comer.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Jake Ryan is out indefinitely with a torn ACL suffered in Tuesday's practice. More: <a href="http://t.co/OWJwtKCX44" title="http://mgob.lu/XpSKKn">mgob.lu/XpSKKn</a></p>— Michigan Football (@umichfootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/umichfootball/status/314415363641208833">March 20, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Hate to see anyone get hurt. This kid is a gamer.
 
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Who is jake ryan
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Redshirt sophomore linebacker for Michigan. Really came on at the end of last season and he was going to be probably their best linebacker. Sucks that he is injured ... but from an opponent perspective they have really big hole to fill there now.
 
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"Ryan led the Wolverines in 2012 with 88 tackles, 56 solo, 16 stops for loss, 4.5 sacks and four forced fumbles."

So yeah, definitely their best OLB.
 
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Michigan's depth is pretty poor now. Man if Lewan had of gone Pro i doubt they'd make bowl eligibility
 
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