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But you can make a sound argument that pulling him after having extremely effective drives was detrimental to our game flow. Zaire was just plain ineffective and his short drives killed momentum

You can make an argument, but I don't know how sound it is. Can you point to a specific place where Zaire killed our momentum? Because we scored 17 straight points after his worst drive(the first possession of the 2nd half). If you want to blame something for killing our momentum, how about blaming this:

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Or the 2 4th downs that Texas converted into first downs. Both of which extended drives that resulted in Touchdowns?
 

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You can make an argument, but I don't know how sound it is. Can you point to a specific place where Zaire killed our momentum? Because we scored 17 straight points after his worst drive(the first possession of the 2nd half). If you want to blame something for killing our momentum, how about blaming this:

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Or the 2 4th downs that Texas converted into first downs. Both of which extended drives that resulted in Touchdowns?

Based on how Kizer was moving the ball, we probably score on those drives with him at QB, and eat up clock, offering UT less possessions.

To spell it out for you.


And yes, our D was the biggest reason. I don't disagree.
 

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Zaire only got one possession in the 2nd half right? He only got two in the first half (3 and out and that drive that stalled past midfield), so I didn't have much of an issue with it personally.

Kizer looked amazing and seems like he should be the guy going forward, but that was a very short sample size for Zaire and the playcalling didn't help him out. I bet he plays close to half the snaps against Nevada. I wouldn't be shocked to see him in there against MSU if their D is stopping us early.



NFL draft analyst and scouts are saying Kizer could be the number 1 pick. Yet he can't be the single starting QB on his own team, he has to share snaps.

Let's face it. Kelly thinks he owes Zaire playing time, because after the injury he said to Zaire and family that the starting job was his when he came back.

Also let's face it. Zaire is a complainer and a cry baby. Once he officially becomes number two, I wouldn't be surprised if Malik tore the team apart because he is a cry baby.


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Based on how Kizer was moving the ball, we probably score on those drives with him at QB, and eat up clock, offering UT less possessions.

To spell it out for you.


And yes, our D was the biggest reason. I don't disagree.

I don't need it spelled out for me. I know what you meant......... you meant that Kelly cost us the game by playing Zaire more than YOU think he should have. And that might be true. I don't wholeheartedly agree with it, but I can see why some people would think so....... however, comma................. it didn't kill any of our momentum, like you contended it did.
 

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NFL draft analyst and scouts are saying Kizer could be the number 1 pick. Yet he can't be the single starting QB on his own team, he has to share snaps.

Let's face it. Kelly thinks he owes Zaire playing time, because after the injury he said to Zaire and family that the starting job was his when he came back.

Also let's face it. Zaire is a complainer and a cry baby. Once he officially becomes number two, I wouldn't be surprised if Malik tore the team apart because he is a cry baby.


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This is where I am at as well. A lot of people on here kept talking about how Malik was a better leader. For those on the sidelines, Malik was an ass most of the game. While I can understand him being frustrated with DeShone getting all the reps the second half. A good leader would not have done what he did. He isolated himself and had a constant pissed off look on his face and didn't talk to anyone. A good leader would be encouraging his teammates and engaged in the game.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Allow Nevada coach Brian Polian to soothe your troubled hearts, Notre Dame fans. <a href="https://t.co/NzwiJNElmP">pic.twitter.com/NzwiJNElmP</a></p>— Mike Vorel (@mikevorel) <a href="https://twitter.com/mikevorel/status/773545057362276356">September 7, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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Zaire only got one possession in the 2nd half right? He only got two in the first half (3 and out and that drive that stalled past midfield), so I didn't have much of an issue with it personally.

Kizer looked amazing and seems like he should be the guy going forward, but that was a very short sample size for Zaire and the playcalling didn't help him out. I bet he plays close to half the snaps against Nevada. I wouldn't be shocked to see him in there against MSU if their D is stopping us early.

My biggest issue is because of the score, not just Zaire. We went down 16 points to start the 2nd half, only 1 QB showed he could do anything on the field at that point. I understand Zaire only had limited exposure in the 1st half. But at that point the W should be more important than an experiment to see who was the better QB. He failed the team with that decision.

NFL draft analyst and scouts are saying Kizer could be the number 1 pick. Yet he can't be the single starting QB on his own team, he has to share snaps.

Let's face it. Kelly thinks he owes Zaire playing time, because after the injury he said to Zaire and family that the starting job was his when he came back.

Also let's face it. Zaire is a complainer and a cry baby. Once he officially becomes number two, I wouldn't be surprised if Malik tore the team apart because he is a cry baby.

Where is this coming from. Honestly I haven't heard anything about it.

This is where I am at as well. A lot of people on here kept talking about how Malik was a better leader. For those on the sidelines, Malik was an ass most of the game. While I can understand him being frustrated with DeShone getting all the reps the second half. A good leader would not have done what he did. He isolated himself and had a constant pissed off look on his face and didn't talk to anyone. A good leader would be encouraging his teammates and engaged in the game.

Anyone else find it funny that as soon as Koon latches on to Zaire, anoints him Black Tebow, once in a lifetime player, the best leader ever born, this happens?
 

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Even I can see the safety sitting on ESB and breaking to Tori as the ball comes out - no way man.

Disagree. An average throw to the sideline on that corner route is six. There's no way the safety comes out of his back pedal to cover that much space.

NO WAY the safety is getting there. They were completely out of position to cover ESB's route from the start of the play when the outside CB jumped the TE and #25 showed blitz and allowed ESB to go by him unjammed.

That's six.

Should have been 6 to Hunter if not for a great reaction by the safety to get there.
 

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If only DK would have gone to ESB on that play. The safety had no chance to get to ESB on the corner route and the CB was beat when he was slow to pick up ESB after showing blitz.

It was an easy 6.

It's at 1:48:26 here:

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Even before that mark in the video, you can see it was a broken coverage and that there was literally nobody with ten feet of ESB.
 

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NFL draft analyst and scouts are saying Kizer could be the number 1 pick. Yet he can't be the single starting QB on his own team, he has to share snaps.

Let's face it. Kelly thinks he owes Zaire playing time, because after the injury he said to Zaire and family that the starting job was his when he came back.

Also let's face it. Zaire is a complainer and a cry baby. Once he officially becomes number two, I wouldn't be surprised if Malik tore the team apart because he is a cry baby.

Link please.

I don't need it spelled out for me. I know what you meant......... you meant that Kelly cost us the game by playing Zaire more than YOU think he should have. And that might be true. I don't wholeheartedly agree with it, but I can see why some people would think so....... however, comma................. it didn't kill any of our momentum, like you contended it did.

Killed momentum is incorrect. Kizer scored TD's on two of the 3 possessions following MZ's series. He had momentum until What are we to blame for the other 3 punts on Kizer drives? Did Kelly's play calling kill Kizer's momentum? Did BVG's defense kill Kizer's momentum? DK actually only scored 2 TD's out of six possessions where he had sequential series. So he had problems with momentum on his own more so than following MZ.

If you want to say MZ ate three possessions where DK could have scored a TD? That's fine because it's a fact. What isn't a fact is that DK would have scored a TD on any of those series. He could have gone 0-3 on those series, he could have gone 3-3 on those series, he could have suffered a season ending injury on the 3rd down when Bars and McG let both DE's get to MZ before he could blink.

This is where I am at as well. A lot of people on here kept talking about how Malik was a better leader. For those on the sidelines, Malik was an ass most of the game. While I can understand him being frustrated with DeShone getting all the reps the second half. A good leader would not have done what he did. He isolated himself and had a constant pissed off look on his face and didn't talk to anyone. A good leader would be encouraging his teammates and engaged in the game.

What did he do? Can you share it here? Did you see it at the game on the sideline or read about it on another message board? I'm really curious. Does not sound like MZ to cause some scene on the sideline.
 

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Even before that mark in the video, you can see it was a broken coverage and that there was literally nobody with ten feet of ESB.

RDU could see it. In his playing days he was either a trombone player at halftime or he's Ed Reed trolling IE for kicks.
 

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My biggest issue is because of the score, not just Zaire. We went down 16 points to start the 2nd half, only 1 QB showed he could do anything on the field at that point. I understand Zaire only had limited exposure in the 1st half. But at that point the W should be more important than an experiment to see who was the better QB. He failed the team with that decision.







Where is this coming from. Honestly I haven't heard anything about it.







Anyone else find it funny that as soon as Koon latches on to Zaire, anoints him Black Tebow, once in a lifetime player, the best leader ever born, this happens?



Just my educated guess from his actions from a far.

And yes Koon needs to stop putting the hex on players!


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Any news on Tori Hunter Jr? Still can't believe targeting wasn't called by the ref or the replay booth!
 

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I personally think we will beat Nevada by 30 plus. We have a talented team that will shine this week and help really restore some faith.
 

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Zaire only got one possession in the 2nd half right? He only got two in the first half (3 and out and that drive that stalled past midfield), so I didn't have much of an issue with it personally.

Kizer looked amazing and seems like he should be the guy going forward, but that was a very short sample size for Zaire and the playcalling didn't help him out. I bet he plays close to half the snaps against Nevada. I wouldn't be shocked to see him in there against MSU if their D is stopping us early.

ignore those last couple sentences....
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Another week to get better. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DoOneMore?src=hash">#DoOneMore</a> <a href="https://t.co/kFFif3NjvI">pic.twitter.com/kFFif3NjvI</a></p>— Notre Dame Football (@NDFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball/status/773898906425892869">September 8, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Another week to get better. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DoOneMore?src=hash">#DoOneMore</a> <a href="https://t.co/kFFif3NjvI">pic.twitter.com/kFFif3NjvI</a></p>— Notre Dame Football (@NDFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball/status/773898906425892869">September 8, 2016</a></blockquote>
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I keep seeing lots of unreal plays being made by Chase Claypool on these Reps episodes. I hope he gets a shot this year. Man he looks great physically.
 

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No use risking it for any opponent. It's not a strained hamstring or ankle sprain.

Well... maybe...


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BK per 247 @ press conference now -"Jay Hayes, Te'von Coney, Asmar Bilal, Daelin Hayes, Corey Holmes are all guys who will play more this week."
 
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Per 247 - BK "Avery Sebastian was cleared and he will play Saturday.
Torii Hunter will practise tomorrow then a decision will be made."
 
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Per 247- BK "Brian Kelly says Drue Tranquill had a good week. He says Texas was a good learning experience."
 
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Per 247 - Brian Kelly says Malik Zaire was very focused in practice.
"I thought he had really two very good days."
 
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Per 247- Here's how the QB situation will look Saturday:
“My expectation is that he’s (Kizer) the starter for this game and we know that based upon what he’s done in the past that he’s been very effective as a starting quarterback. And I expect him to continue in that role. If he’s not effective, if he’s not what we have known him to be, we got one heck of a good quarterback ready to play.”
 
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Per 247 - Right now Studstill and Tranquill are scheduled to start. (Nick Itonside not BK.
 
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Per 247 - BK - "I felt that rest and recovery was more important than another practice day" in the short week."
 
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Per 247 - BK re: Nick Coleman. "We asked him to play a technique and he didn’t trust his own techniques." Coleman was down on Tuesday, but BK talked to him and he had a good week of practice.
"You can't give up on a guy like Nick Coleman."
 
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These posts are all from the short press conference held today at 630 ET
 
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