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It sucks being a ND lifer sometimes... it really does, but then there are times when I look at programs like PSU and Tennessee and I think, "eh, could have been worse."
 

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Don't cry for me, Alabama

Don't cry for me, Alabama

(I know you won't)

Is Auburn relevant?
Is a win over Auburn still a big win?
Will Auburn get six wins?

Against FBS opponents, Auburn is 96th in Scoring Offense (UMass is 94th), 103rd in Total Offense (Kansas is 96th), 102nd in 3rd down conversions (UCONN is 101st), and 118th in Passing Offense (Ga Tech is 119th).

They will probably beat San Jose State this weekend for their third win. A late November game against Idaho and their 123rd ranked scoring defense will produce another win.

Auburn needs two wins over conference opponents to reach six wins.

Next, Auburn plays Kentucky (10/15) and Arkansas (10/24) - both away games. We may know if their bowl chances will be fading by then, because Auburn finishes with Ole Miss, A&M, Georgia and Alabama.

They may be underdogs in all the rest of their conference games.

What if they had lost to Jacksonville State?
 
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(I know you won't)

Is Auburn relevant?
Is a win over Auburn still a big win?
Will Auburn get six wins?

Against FBS opponents, Auburn is 96th in Scoring Offense (UMass is 94th), 103rd in Total Offense (Kansas is 96th), 102nd in 3rd down conversions (UCONN is 101st), and 118th in Passing Offense (Ga Tech is 119th).

They will probably beat San Jose State this weekend for their third win. A late November game against Idaho and their 123rd ranked scoring defense will produce another win.

Auburn needs two wins over conference opponents to reach six wins.

Next, Auburn plays Kentucky (10/15) and Arkansas (10/24) - both away games. We may know if their bowl chances will be fading by then, because Auburn finishes with Ole Miss, A&M, Georgia and Alabama.

They may be underdogs in all the rest of their conference games.

What if they had lost to Jacksonville State?

Gus is feeling the heat right now for sure. But Auburn is still a relevant program - even if they have been inconsistent recently. Their offensive struggles are due to not having a QB that can get the job done. A little surprising given Gus' track record with QBs. On defense, WM has a lot of work to do but I think he can get them much better as he upgrades the talent level. Injuries on both sides of the ball have hurt them as well. The Tigers recruit very well so I would expect them to improve going forward. But yeah... if Gus keeps pulling 8-5 seasons, the Barners are going to call for change.
 

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Gus is feeling the heat right now for sure. But Auburn is still a relevant program - even if they have been inconsistent recently. Their offensive struggles are due to not having a QB that can get the job done. A little surprising given Gus' track record with QBs. On defense, WM has a lot of work to do but I think he can get them much better as he upgrades the talent level. Injuries on both sides of the ball have hurt them as well. The Tigers recruit very well so I would expect them to improve going forward. But yeah... if Gus keeps pulling 8-5 seasons, the Barners are going to call for change.

I think we can all appreciate how a QB can limit a team. Sometimes, it just ain't in the cards. Either the kid doesn't have the arm, or doesn't have it between the ears.
 

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Gus is feeling the heat right now for sure. But Auburn is still a relevant program - even if they have been inconsistent recently. Their offensive struggles are due to not having a QB that can get the job done. A little surprising given Gus' track record with QBs. On defense, WM has a lot of work to do but I think he can get them much better as he upgrades the talent level. Injuries on both sides of the ball have hurt them as well. The Tigers recruit very well so I would expect them to improve going forward. But yeah... if Gus keeps pulling 8-5 seasons, the Barners are going to call for change.

The relevancy question was a bit tongue in cheek, though this year Auburn can be labeled a pretender and only a spoiler in any titles consideration this year. I'd personally dump the term. Regardless, the last time Auburn's recruiting ranking was out of the top ten was for the 2009 class, just after Chizik was hired. Those rankings create expectations. I wonder if Kiffin would be available? Better check with Jimmy on current contract exclusions... Surely Lane wouldn't jump ship before a bowl game?
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/TonyBasilio">@TonyBasilio</a> It's about to get really ugly around here and I mean really ugly. I think some things are going to come out that really turn up</p>— The Vol Colonel (@TheVOLColonel) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheVOLColonel/status/650542575552737280">October 4, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Rumours abound Rocky Top that Butch punched a player in practice this week (Mack Crowder) and that Butch and Azzani (sp?) got into it after the game last night.
 

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Yessir. Deal

And I'm typically confused at my own posts so I can't help with the explanation much lol.

I'll take that bet in a heartbeat. The kids don't know how to win yet. And now it's massively in their heads. They play remedial offense in the 2nd half of games. The Arkansas game will be a bruiser, and then Georgia is gonna beat 'em IMO...the only thing stopping them will be a Bama hangover.

Paid lol.
Bring on UGA.
 

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I've never seen a fanbase turn so quickly on a coach. The only thing that may save his job is he is signed through 2020 and it would cost a lot to fire him. They gave him a raise last year when there were rumors of Michigan contacting him. I believe they are also still paying Dooley (not sure how much longer).
 

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I've never seen a fanbase turn so quickly on a coach. The only thing that may save his job is he is signed through 2020 and it would cost a lot to fire him. They gave him a raise last year when there were rumors of Michigan contacting him. I believe they are also still paying Dooley (not sure how much longer).

If he punched a kid, he will be gone and they will not have to pay anything. I hope it's not true.
 

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If he punched a kid, he will be gone and they will not have to pay anything. I hope it's not true.

Heard that rumor, you think there is any way that is true? My boss's son was one of the equipment managers until this year (he graduated) so I used to get some inside scoop. I've only read it online.
 

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Heard that rumor, you think there is any way that is true? My boss's son was one of the equipment managers until this year (he graduated) so I used to get some inside scoop. I've only read it online.

Honestly I don't know what to think of it all. If it happened, I'm sure it will come out this week. I know some semi-insiders but have not talked to them. Almost afraid to ask lol.
 

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Butch Jones "allegedly" punched a player at practice..

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Sounds like incident did not take place this week
 

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Ha I kind of know the brother of one of Tennessee's OL.

Maybe I'll have to try and dig into the dirt.
 

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So it all happened before the season started?

That's the rumor. Not sure if something like that would have been kept quiet but as you know, once a Coach loses his support the stories come out.
 
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Wow, didn't realize they lost to Arky. Butch Jones is going to be in a really bad spot if they get smoked the next two weeks which they very well could.
 

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Wow, didn't realize they lost to Arky. Butch Jones is going to be in a really bad spot if they get smoked the next two weeks which they very well could.

Butch Jones could sell sand to the Sahara but is out coached just about every week. He's like 1-17 vs the top 25
 

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That's the rumor. Not sure if something like that would have been kept quiet but as you know, once a Coach loses his support the stories come out.

Pretty much everything that's wrong with cfb in a nutshell...
 

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Butch Jones could sell sand to the Sahara but is out coached just about every week. He's like 1-17 vs the top 25

the guy can put an alright team out and play a good 1st half but when it comes to half time adjustments the guy just can't get it done.
 

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Tennessee will finish 6-6 at best.

Good thing they have the SC Gamecocks, Vandy Commodores and North Texas Mean Green left at home OR 6 wins would be absolute mirage for attaining. I'm going with a 5-7 record. Soooo ... NO BOWL FOR YOU!
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Auburn announces that senior wide receiver D'haquille "Duke" Williams has been dismissed from the team.</p>— Greg Ostendorf (@GregO_ESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/GregO_ESPN/status/651218304418209792">October 6, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Not surprised WR Duke Williams dismissed from Auburn. Classic underachiever w/ inflated sense of self. Lot of 1st rd buzz; we never saw it</p>— Todd McShay (@McShay13) <a href="https://twitter.com/McShay13/status/651232429869506560">October 6, 2015</a></blockquote>
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So supposedly there is a video out there of the Butch Jones altercation.

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So apparently when asked by the reporter about this. Butch said something along these lines "You find out who's with you and who's against you... You write it down and put it in your back pocket. To reference later...." at the press conference today???

This is from Vol247.
 

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So apparently when asked by the reporter about this. Butch said something along these lines "You find out who's with you and who's against you... You write it down and put it in your back pocket. To reference later...." at the press conference today???

This is from Vol247.


What a great philosophy: Find out who's against you by slugging them. Brilliant. This guy seems like a bully and a blowhard. Somebody needs to punch him.
 
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