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BGIF

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only ND fans would worry about the grammar and not the context and implied meaning of that DD tweet.
too funny...and a bit disturbing at the same time.

#theresanewgenerationtakinover


ND pursues excellence on and off the field. It's one of those things that separates ND from the football factories. There are fans who find that disturbing too.

This board was founded on a similar basis of excellence, "Post like a champion" not like an Auburn fan.
 

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"it's" not its.

It's is the contraction for it is.

Its is a possessive pronoun.

Sheeeeet. I take all the heat and fend off all the brickbats for being the "Grammar Hammer" and a plethora of pretender/wannabes come along, steal my thunder and suffer no injury.

Such a deal!!!
 

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I can't imagine that article is accurate. Why in Creation would the hearing be with the Office of General Counsel?

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I can't imagine that article is accurate. Why in Creation would the hearing be with the Office of General Counsel?

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I think from the start they've said it's the Office of General Counsel that's handling it.

I feel for these guys though. Even if they are guilty, being totally in the dark for 2 months has to be absolutely agonizing and it's just horribly unfair to these kids. Like he said, if they found something that proves guilt, just do it and get it over with so they can move on and figure out their next steps.
 

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Sheeeeet. I take all the heat and fend off all the brickbats for being the "Grammar Hammer" and a plethora of pretender/wannabes come along, steal my thunder and suffer no injury.

Such a deal!!!


Mea culpa. I had heard you were busy having your tonsure waxed.
 

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Just what or who are ESPN's purported sources? I can certainly understand DD's misgivings and frustrations, but what the hell does "General Counsel" have to do with this matter at this point?

General Counsel consults and advises but does not decide. Speculation on recruiting ramifications be damned. Get it right.
 

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Mea culpa. I had heard you were busy having your tonsure waxed.

Surely you've seen pics. I may be on my way, naturally, to tonsure, but I ain't inclined to artificially hasten the process. Well, except for a good cause.

In my climate I can use all the hair I can grow as insulation.

I think it's (not "its") R-2 trending toward R-1.

What is your source? ESPN?
 

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Just what or who are ESPN's purported sources? I can certainly understand DD's misgivings and frustrations, but what the hell does "General Counsel" have to do with this matter at this point?

General Counsel consults and advises but does not decide. Speculation on recruiting ramifications be damned. Get it right.

Source is Daniels.

Daniels, a redshirt junior and the team's second-leading receiver last season, told ESPN.

General Counsel conducted an investigation if I recall correctly. No one has clarified whether they were dealing with Academic Misconduct specifically or broader issues such as NCAA regulations.

I did not see General Counsel mentioned in any capacity in reading the Honor Code policies and procedures.

I would expect General Counsel to be involved along with the Compliance Office on any possible NCAA issues but I would not expect them to fulfilling the role of an Honesty Committee.

Kelly made mention of going down a new road. Perhaps, speculation on my part, the issues involved are uncharted waters for an Honesty Committee and that has brought GC in. Then again perhaps there was miscommunication/misunderstanding between Daniels and Fowler over the GC investigation and an HC Hearing.
 

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I guess DD's earlier tweet now makes sense. How the heck can they wait two weeks after forming the committee to hold the hearing? I don't blame DD, or their family at this point.
 

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Source is Daniels.



General Counsel conducted an investigation if I recall correctly. No one has clarified whether they were dealing with Academic Misconduct specifically or broader issues such as NCAA regulations.

I did not see General Counsel mentioned in any capacity in reading the Honor Code policies and procedures.

I would expect General Counsel to be involved along with the Compliance Office on any possible NCAA issues but I would not expect them to fulfilling the role of an Honesty Committee.

Kelly made mention of going down a new road. Perhaps, speculation on my part, the issues involved are uncharted waters for an Honesty Committee and that has brought GC in. Then again perhaps there was miscommunication/misunderstanding between Daniels and Fowler over the GC investigation and an HC Hearing.

It's not entirely out of the question that they go to GC and then go to the Honesty Committee. It wouldn't make any sense, but hey, what about this situation has.
 

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This article has made me... well I'll say a few things. WHY WHYWHY!!! DD are you an IDIOT? To give the likes of an ESPN any ammo to try to screw with the University that Is clearly investigating not something you may have done in the correct way, but In a clearly suspicious way. Twitter was working way better for Dad.

Anyone that is penciled in as a good student and trustworthy does not need to think. Quote Daniels said. "We go on campus and we don't know exactly what the professors think." Thinking and people's perception are 2 completely different topic's you might want to think before you react for you and not anyone else.

The NFL will be there in the future wether your guilty or innocent but to say. Quote "We don't really feel we have options," Daniels said. "We don't really have any power here. ... If they keep dragging it out like this, then something's going to happen. I don't know what." What exactly would happen regardless of this investigation other than your good enough or you're not! What you affiliate yourself with can't be under the digression of our University and when you decide to walk on your own 2 feet you'll do well young man as we started to see last year when you started taking the daddy off your

Regardless of your guilt or innocence. Kelly should Kick you TONIGHT and announce before kickoff tomm evening! Good Riddance to smart, smart people
 
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This article has made me... well I'll say a few things. WHY WHYWHY!!! DD are you an IDIOT? To give the likes of an ESPN any ammo to try to screw with the University that Is clearly investigating not something you may have done in the correct way, but In a clearly suspicious way. Twitter was working way better for Dad.

Anyone that is penciled in as a good student and trustworthy does not need to think. Quote Daniels said. "We go on campus and we don't know exactly what the professors think." Thinking and people's perception are 2 completely different topic's you might want to think before you react for you and not anyone else.

The NFL will be there in the future wether your guilty or innocent but to say. Quote "We don't really feel we have options," Daniels said. "We don't really have any power here. ... If they keep dragging it out like this, then something's going to happen. I don't know what." What exactly would happen regardless of this investigation other than your good enough or you're not! What you affiliate yourself with can't be under the digression of our University and when you decide to walk on your own 2 feet you'll do well young man as we started to see last year when you started taking the daddy off your

Regardless of your guilt or innocence. Kelly should Kick you TONIGHT and announce before kickoff tomm evening! Good Riddance to smart, smart people

Don't really understand this viewpoint.
 

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only ND fans would worry about the grammar and not the context and implied meaning of that DD tweet.
too funny...and a bit disturbing at the same time.

#theresanewgenerationtakinover

very sad
 

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The lengths people here go to defend ND is embarrassing. They have been flat out pretentious and wrong. Don't blame Toot for any of that. Like he said, he has no options. Talking to ESPN is just about the only one, and I don't blame him one bit for fighting back.
 

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I get that Daniels is frustrated. I'm not sure that talking to ESPN is the most productive approach. But I get it. This whole situation sucks.

I do think it's says something - what I'm not sure - that of the five only Daniels and his family have made any noise whatsoever. And they've made a fair bit. They certainly have a point about the process. But there's also a part of me that wonders if Daniels hasn't talked his way into a corner at this point.
 

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Why in the hell are you going to go to the media NOW, when you know your hearing and fate are decided next week?

Dumb dumb dumb.
 

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Just what or who are ESPN's purported sources? I can certainly understand DD's misgivings and frustrations, but what the hell does "General Counsel" have to do with this matter at this point?

General Counsel consults and advises but does not decide. Speculation on recruiting ramifications be damned. Get it right.

That actually makes sense, Lawyers get paid by the hour, this has dragged on for many weeks, conspiracy? I think not.......:)
 

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So do you bring these guys back to practice this week knowing that if they are cleared by Friday they can play? Would be smart of Kelly, no?
 

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So do you bring these guys back to practice this week knowing that if they are cleared by Friday they can play? Would be smart of Kelly, no?

No, what if they're not cleared? They return only when the hearing is over and they receive a favorable disposition
 

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So do you bring these guys back to practice this week knowing that if they are cleared by Friday they can play? Would be smart of Kelly, no?

And if they are not then you just took valuable reps away from players who needed it. He has to wait it out like everybody else for the sake of the team and not just 5 players. It sucks, but it's reality.
 
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