'13 MA OT John Montelus (Notre Dame Signed LOI)

[clashmore_mike]

Good news...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Thank god I don't need surgery on my shoulder &#55357;&#56911;</p>— John Montelus (@big_john_74) <a href="https://twitter.com/big_john_74/status/306528287784583171">February 26, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[Redbar]

Whew! Was a little concerned, great news John, heal up, enjoy your senior year, see you soon.

 

[OCIrish]

That is REALLY good news!!! I'm not sure who I'm more excited about in terms of our incoming OL.....Montelus or Bivin, and not that I'm not excited about the others, I just think one of these two are going to he really,really, special!!

 

[peoriairish]

Unfortunately, this would almost guarantee a red shirt for John. I was hoping he'd be able to step in in the 2 deep, but with shoulder injuries, you do NOT want to rush them back. And if he's not able to lift heavy for a few months secondary to the injury, he won't be coming into the summer football ready.

John, take your time, rest up, get healthy. You have a long career ahead of you. No need to waste it rushing back onto the field or into the gym and injure it worse. Patience is a virtue my man.

 

[IrishLion]

That is REALLY good news!!! I'm not sure who I'm more excited about in terms of our incoming OL.....Montelus or Bivin, and not that I'm not excited about the others, I just think one of these two are going to he really,really, special!!

I can't pick one; I'm more excited that there is actually a recruiting class with a complete offensive line.

Elmer - Monetelus - Bivin - McGovern - McGlinchey

Boy that's beautiful.

 

[irishroo]

Unfortunately, this would almost guarantee a red shirt for John. I was hoping he'd be able to step in in the 2 deep, but with shoulder injuries, you do NOT want to rush them back. And if he's not able to lift heavy for a few months secondary to the injury, he won't be coming into the summer football ready.

John, take your time, rest up, get healthy. You have a long career ahead of you. No need to waste it rushing back onto the field or into the gym and injure it worse. Patience is a virtue my man.

Why would you want a true frosh in the 2 deep on the O line? Highly unlikely that any of the incoming O linemen are physically ready to contribute this fall, save for maybe Elmer because he's an EE.

 

[IrishLion]

Why would you want a true frosh in the 2 deep on the O line? Highly unlikely that any of the incoming O linemen are physically ready to contribute this fall, save for maybe Elmer because he's an EE.

I think he meant that he was hoping Montelus would be ready to step in, because one of the freshman will probably need to after losing Cave, Golic and probably Nichols.

 

[peoriairish]

I wanted it because he is a stud and is ready to just be a bowling ball of a pulling guard. We are awfully thin with experience at OL this coming year and if the kid came in physically ready and Coach Martin can get him ready mentally, why not? We are going to need at least 1 if not 2 frosh at OL this year. Hope I'm wrong and some others step up, but I think we will.

Edit: Looks like The Lion read it right.

 

[irishroo]

I think he meant that he was hoping Montelus would be ready to step in, because one of the freshman will probably need to after losing Cave, Golic and probably Nichols.

I read ya. Hopefully we can get to the point very quickly where we won't have to rely on true freshmen on the o line.

 

[IrishLion]

I read ya. Hopefully we can get to the point very quickly where we won't have to rely on true freshmen on the o line.

A nice foundation is in place, 4 OL recruits in the '14 class would make that situation seem likely moving forward. That, and more 10+ win seasons.

 

[PANDFAN]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Incoming <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23NotreDame">#NotreDame</a> freshman John Montelus might need shoulder surgery this summer($): <a href="http://t.co/86Clyroedz" title="http://notredame.247sports.com/Article/Notre-Dame-freshman-John-Montelus-may-need-shoulder-surgery-132463">notredame.247sports.com/Article/Notre-…</a></p>— Dan Murphy (@BGI_DanMurphy) <a href="https://twitter.com/BGI_DanMurphy/status/339419585524690944">May 28, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[clashmore_mike]

wouldn't be a huge deal if he did as he was likely going to redshirt, but I wish he would have had it months ago when he first injured the shoulder.

 

[PANDFAN]

wouldn't be a huge deal if he did as he was likely going to redshirt, but I wish he would have had it months ago when he first injured the shoulder.

yeah just seems to be a wasted year though because he most likely won't be practicing which will hurt for the following year

 

[clashmore_mike]

yeah just seems to be a wasted year though because he most likely won't be practicing which will hurt for the following year

I agree but depending on what kind of surgery it was, it would be unlikely that he would have been able to practice at all this year either way ala Chase Hounshell. Now I'd think he will need to have a really quick recovery process to be able to be full go for spring ball.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

He might have waited until summer to have the surgery performed on ND's dime instead of his family's. I assume no one knows what sort of insurance coverage the Montelus family enjoys?

 

[Old Man Mike]

.... ehh, might not cost him or us anything. I felt that it would be Elmer first and Bivin second if any frosh were needed on the DLine.

If the operation is more tinkering something back into high function than catastrophic remake, then Big John can still do a lot of conditioning and brainwork even while recovering, AND have the whole Spring full go.

 

[KyfightingIrish36]

#60

 

[South Jersey Domer]

I can't pick one; I'm more excited that there is actually a recruiting class with a complete offensive line.

Elmer - Monetelus - Bivin - McGovern - McGlinchey

Boy that's beautiful.

Me too, Brian Kelly has made it a priority to have a perenially elite and powering offensive line from the left tackle all the way to the right.

 

[md_bennett]

I haven't heard anything in a while on the big man's condition. How is that shoulder doing, and is it going to be keeping him out indefinitely?

 

[Ironman8]

I haven't heard anything in a while on the big man's condition. How is that shoulder doing, and is it going to be keeping him out indefinitely?

I don't think there is any question he, Colin and Big Mike will redshirt.

 

[Old Man Mike]

I'd put a bunch of vBucks on Ironman's statement. If the first five OLine stays relatively injury-free, then there was/is room for two frosh on the second five. [Hegarty, Hanratty, and Harrell are serviceable back-ups].

Elmer, as a super-talent and an EE, obviously gets not only coaching raves but one of the second team spots [if not higher]. Then to fill the second team you go to the most physically-ready forklift of the other freshmen. Bivin has shown that he's that guy over and over.

Doubtless Hiestand would also like to preserve Bivin's year if he can, and if we have no tackle injuries that is likely [though not a sure thing] to happen.

On Montelus: it's not only his shoulder nag which is holding him back in my opinion, but I think that he's not as well conditioned generally as guys like Elmer and Bivin, and, Lou-Nix-wise, needs to Longo-&-Nutrition-Up his body. He needs to get at this fast I think. He has monsters all around him, and four more arriving next year.


Vision this: Elmer/ Bars/ Bivin/ Nelson/ Stanley or shortly thereafter, McGlinchey --- or spread in another name-of-choice. There is no fooling around time to grab OLine reps destiny on this team.

 

[md_bennett]

I totally get that he may not be ready mentally and has to get in shape, but I am just referring to his injury holding him out of practice and getting meaningful reps. I have high hope for the young man, but if he gets passed up this year because he isn't able to participate, he is almost having to start fresh with the class coming in next year. Guess this is just my curiosity since he is the only guy I have heard absolutely no updates on since the surgery needed update.

 

[Ironman8]

I totally get that he may not be ready mentally and has to get in shape, but I am just referring to his injury holding him out of practice and getting meaningful reps. I have high hope for the young man, but if he gets passed up this year because he isn't able to participate, he is almost having to start fresh with the class coming in next year. Guess this is just my curiosity since he is the only guy I have heard absolutely no updates on since the surgery needed update.

I haven't heard anything about him or Colin, leading me to believe they are still not ready to go after their surgeries. Hopefully they will be back in time to get some practice reps and help the team prepare at some point this fall, but if not I am sure they will be raring to go in the spring.

 

[Old Man Mike]

Due to insufficient OLine numbers, we sure could use their [Montelus and McGovern] participation on the scout team. We're down to them, McGlinchey, Heggie, and walk-ons as it is.

...... and this is, if it need be said, not Kelly or Hiestand's fault. People named Prestwood, Nichols, Carrico were supposed to handle the depth issue.

 

[Buster Bluth]

Vision this: Elmer/ Bars/ Bivin/ Nelson/ Stanley or shortly thereafter, McGlinchey --- or spread in another name-of-choice. There is no fooling around time to grab OLine reps destiny on this team.

From the looks of it, there are going to be a lot of bodies competing for very few spots in the near future that could determine the next few years of OL play. OL isn't usually a position in which one gets beat out (after starting), so you can expect Elmer/Stanley to be in the fold until '16.

If that's the case, OG competition will be intense. Montelus is a wrecking ball, but Nelson is a five-star talent and Bars isn't fooling around. McGovern and McGlinchey are there, but perhaps more fitted for OT. Does Elmer slide to OG if/when McGlinchey blossoms? It's going to get interesting, that's for sure.


2013:
LT- Martin (5th)
LG- Watt (5th)
C- Martin (Jr)
RG- Lombard (Sr)
RT- Stanley (So)

2014:
LT- Elmer (SO)
LG-
C- Martin (Sr)
RG- Lombard (5th)
RT- Stanley (Jr)

2015:
LT- Elmer (JR)
LG-
C- Martin (5th)
RG-
RT- Stanley (Sr)

2016:
LT- Elmer (SR)
LG-
C-
RG-
RT- Stanley (5th)

 

[WestCoast]

From the looks of it, there are going to be a lot of bodies competing for very few spots in the near future that could determine the next few years of OL play. OL isn't usually a position in which one gets beat out, so you can expect Elmer/Stanley to be in the fold until '16.

If that's the case, OG competition will be intense. Montelus is a wrecking ball, but Nelson is a five-star talent and Bars isn't fooling around. McGovern and McGlinchey are there, but perhaps more fitted for OT. Does Elmer slide to OG if/when McGlinchey blossoms? It's going to get interesting, that's for sure.

Shortly after signing day there seems to be a glut of all-world talent at every position. Then fall camp ends and a half dozen are gone to injury or to transfer, so I will try to temper my thoughts here.

If all the talent they bring in pans out and they end up in a situation where the 6th and 7th o-lineman really are good enough to start but there is no open spot for them, I would hope the staff implement some 6th lineman packages like we saw with Stanford or Alabama. Yes, it may telegraph where the play is going, but it can still be effective and demoralizing if you know where the running play is going and still cannot stop it.

 

[stlnd01]

Shortly after signing day there seems to be a glut of all-world talent at every position. Then fall camp ends and a half dozen are gone to injury or to transfer, so I will try to temper my thoughts here.

If all the talent they bring in pans out and they end up in a situation where the 6th and 7th o-lineman really are good enough to start but there is no open spot for them, I would hope the staff implement some 6th lineman packages like we saw with Stanford or Alabama. Yes, it may telegraph where the play is going, but it can still be effective and demoralizing if you know where the running play is going and still cannot stop it.

That would be great. I'm all for demoralization of opponents. But is it also possible that any of them might flip to defense?

I think here particularly of Montelus, who lots of people describe with words like "wrecking ball" that have me envisioning mayhem in USC's offensive backfield. I realize the skill sets and physical characteristics are a bit different. But they're not that different, and there tends to be more room for second and third stringers to contribute on D.

 

[NDWorld247]

That would be great. I'm all for demoralization of opponents. But is it also possible that any of them might flip to defense?

I think here particularly of Montelus, who lots of people describe with words like "wrecking ball" that have me envisioning mayhem in USC's offensive backfield. I realize the skill sets and physical characteristics are a bit different. But they're not that different, and there tends to be more room for second and third stringers to contribute on D.

Montelus NEVER played defense at Everett HS. He was purely an OT. I've heard the idea of moving him to defense several times on this board and it's simply VERY unlikely to happen.

If anyone moves it will likely be Mustipher.

 

[Fbolt]

Montelus NEVER played defense at Everett HS. He was purely an OT. I've heard the idea of moving him to defense several times on this board and it's simply VERY unlikely to happen.

If anyone moves it will likely be Mustipher.

Could it be unlikely or must it be VERY unlikely?

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Montelus NEVER played defense at Everett HS. He was purely an OT. I've heard the idea of moving him to defense several times on this board and it's simply VERY unlikely to happen.

If anyone moves it will likely be Mustipher.

Yup.