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What's the practice schedule for today? Any scheduled media today (e.g. press conference)?
 

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This is the real issue here. It almost seems that there is an agenda from inside against the football program.

There's 1/3 of the BoT that hates football and I think that shines through everything. Might not be the case here, as I'm completely unsure how this all came to light. Investigation? Snitching? Professor?

I mean UNC ran a school sponsored cheating program for YEARS with virtually no ramifications. ND gets a rogue tutor and hell rains down on the senior leadership of the team?
 

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Don't you have to be caught cheating twice before you get suspended (I vaguely remember talking about it when it happened to Golson)? So if that is correct and they get suspended that would make it their second time.

No, it's pretty much one and done. You get one semester of academic probation if you don't have the grades to get them up but cheating is pretty much an auto-suspension for students and athletes alike. Such a strange situation if true... Those guys come from a bunch of different majors/class years for the most part. Its hard to imagine they would all be in the same class unless it was a FYS class, but to have something unearthed now is odd timing.
 
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Ok well now that there are press releases scheduled, why don't you all spill the beans?
 

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So...call me crazy, but I believe this will create opportunities for a few and we will be just fine

WR : we are loaded here and also have fantastic TE's.
CB: Riggs is a HUGE blessing! Along with Luke and Butler we will be fine
DE: Rochell will be the one to prosper out of this! Mark my words ....with Isaac we will not miss a beat. Fitts would be huge now.
 
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Kim Dunbar got four players suspended from ND. The one that really didn't do anything served jail time. Sexual allegation's from a pregnant, unstable person, that absconded with millions from her employer, of which she donated some to ND. Some say she was looking for baby daddy when she didn't really know, as she picked the thoroughbred with the best draft stock.
 

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If true, something of this magnitude will be very damning and incredibly hard to overcome on the trail.

Quite the opposite, this is part of the 40 year decision.

Parents looking to build their children into men want them held accountable for their actions. Golson got a second chance, he can redeem himself. The same will be available for these guys (assuming we are talking academic "transgressions" here).
 

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No, it's pretty much one and done. You get one semester of academic probation if you don't have the grades to get them up but cheating is pretty much an auto-suspension for students and athletes alike. Such a strange situation if true... Those guys come from a bunch of different majors/class years for the most part. Its hard to imagine they would all be in the same class unless it was a FYS class, but to have something unearthed now is odd timing.

Might as well just spell it out plainly now, since there are more than enough contextual clues in this thread to piece it together. The rumor is that a female tutor was writing papers for those four players in exchange for sex.

It was Daniels, KR, Ishaq and Moore in the computer lab with a candlestick.

Sounds like the boys used their own candlesticks.
 

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Ok well now that there are press releases scheduled, why don't you all spill the beans.

There are no more beans to spill!!!! We could all post a bunch of rumors with unverifiable accuracy... or we could wait until 3 PM and then discuss.

There is literally no 100% concrete information out there right now.

Vacating wins? Maybe. Suspensions? Definitely... Length? Unknown. Option to return? Unknown.

You know who it affects, and you know that it is generally related to academic issues with a rogue tutor/person/girl. That's all there is to discuss right now.
 

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It was Daniels, KR, Ishaq and Moore in the computer lab with a candlestick.

If true you'd think DD is done and the others lose time?? That would result in Moore being done as well I'd assume... I know it's a hard game to play, I'm jut trying to process.
 

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Its frustrating, I agree. But isn't it really getting ridiculous on the other side! If we can't compete, its because other schools are acting crazy.

Kicking a kid out for something stupid is one thing (driving a gulf cart drunk), but let's wait and hear what it was first.

The only kids we could not have a good season without are: Golson, Day, Jones, and J. Smith. Everyone else is replaceable, though there could be some real pain!

True. We are loaded at wide receiver and Williams who I was hoping would break out this year hasn't really done much to date. Russell is going to hurt. But your right wait to hear the facts first is best. Like Buster said it did seem like this off season was working out just fine.
 

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So...call me crazy, but I believe this will create opportunities for a few and we will be just fine

WR : we are loaded here and also have fantastic TE's.
CB: Riggs is a HUGE blessing! Along with Luke and Butler we will be fine
DE: Rochell will be the one to prosper out of this! Mark my words ....with Isaac we will not miss a beat. Fitts would be huge now.

We will miss a few beats, but I agree that if this is the case, the season is still salvageable.

We just can't lose Golson, Day, Jones, or J. Smith.
 

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Thank you God for giving me restraint last night to not pull the trigger on the Oct 4 Stanford game trip!

Seriously, what kind of morons are these guys???? You just watch your QB get kicked for a year and the team chances of great success going down the tube and you do this?
 

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So...call me crazy, but I believe this will create opportunities for a few and we will be just fine

WR : we are loaded with fantastic TE's.
CB: Riggs is a HUGE blessing! Along with Luke and Butler we will be fine
DE: Rochell will be the one to prosper out of this! Mark my words ....with Isaac we will not miss a beat. Fitts would be huge now.

It's beyond that though. This shit happens every single fucking year. Next year it will be some other key guy. We all want to see an ND team make the playoffs and compete for a NC. With this type of stuff, it will NEVER happen.

It impacts starting talent, depth, recruiting, everything. We basically self-impose sanctions on a yearly basis. It's gotten to the point where I am genuinely surprised to hear good news and bad news like this doesn't even faze me. I'm disappointed and bummed, but surprised? No way, not with ND.
 
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Might as well just spell it out plainly now, since there are more than enough contextual clues in this thread to piece it together. The rumor is that a female tutor was writing papers for those four players in exchange for sex.



Sounds like the boys used their own candlesticks.

That's what I don't get. So the female wanted sex and the players wouldn't give it to her (come on guys, really?), and so she said she'd write papers if they bang her?

I believe there's something big going on, but that part doesn't add up. This is guys we're talking about.

But then again I'd hit anything with a pulse.
 

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Yeah I don't see how this hurts us in recruiting, if a kid doesn't want to come to a school because they suspend players for cheating then quite frankly I wouldn't want the kid and that kid would probably not pick ND because they don't want to work hard in the classroom anyways.
 

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Quite the opposite, this is part of the 40 year decision.

Parents looking to build their children into men want them held accountable for their actions. Golson got a second chance, he can redeem himself. The same will be available for these guys (assuming we are talking academic "transgressions" here).

Yeah... because that is exactly what parents of spoiled, entitled 17 year olds are looking for...

Face it, look around you for Christ's sakes. Our society isn't based off of personal responsibility and accountability. It's about gluttony and immediate gratification.
 

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So...call me crazy, but I believe this will create opportunities for a few and we will be just fine

WR : we are loaded here and also have fantastic TE's.
CB: Riggs is a HUGE blessing! Along with Luke and Butler we will be fine
DE: Rochell will be the one to prosper out of this! Mark my words ....with Isaac we will not miss a beat. Fitts would be huge now.

KVR is a veteran top round NFL draft pick. Don't think he'll be replaced easily.

Ishaq and Daniels I tend to agree, although both are complete players and vets. Makes staying healthy of insane importance now.
 

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Why in the world would it take this long to come out if the incident happened last year?

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This could explain why some younger guys jumped up on the two-deep depth chart
 

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Might as well just spell it out plainly now, since there are more than enough contextual clues in this thread to piece it together. The rumor is that a female tutor was writing papers for those four players in exchange for sex.



Sounds like the boys used their own candlesticks.

WOW! How tempting is that for a 18-21 year old? This chic a student? If so I guess she will be headed home as well huh?
 

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The rumor is that a female tutor was writing papers for those four players in exchange for sex.

Serious matter and terrible offense.

That being said, that's so outlandish and absurd that I literally laughed out loud at work. What IDIOTS... how can they think that would work at ND?!?
 

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Might as well just spell it out plainly now, since there are more than enough contextual clues in this thread to piece it together. The rumor is that a female tutor was writing papers for those four players in exchange for sex.



Sounds like the boys used their own candlesticks.


She must be cute if she is paying them for sex.
 
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